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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.12.27 22:23:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Those aren't logis...
Its like the difference between a guy with a wrench and a plumber: they have the equipment, but not the knowledge. A logistics player is any player in a logistics suit, just like a scout is any player in a scout suit and an assault is any player in an Assault suit.
You missed his point. His point is that you don't gain the experience of a Logistics just by wearing the suit.
In the eyes of a veteran Dust player, a logistics player is one who highly specializes in the role of logistics, knows how the make the most of the equipment, knows the best spots to put the equipment in so that his team benefits the most from it, and is mindful of his/her own limitations as a logi. That's a logistics player.
A player wearing the suit just to try it out isn't really a logi but instead a tourist.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10595
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Posted - 2014.12.27 23:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Those aren't logis...
Its like the difference between a guy with a wrench and a plumber: they have the equipment, but not the knowledge. A logistics player is any player in a logistics suit, just like a scout is any player in a scout suit and an assault is any player in an Assault suit. You missed his point. His point is that you don't gain the experience of a Logistics just by wearing the suit. In the eyes of a veteran Dust player, a logistics player is one who highly specializes in the role of logistics, knows how the make the most of the equipment, knows the best spots to put the equipment in so that his team benefits the most from it, and is mindful of his/her own limitations as a logi. That's a logistics player. A player wearing the suit just to try it out isn't really a logi but instead a tourist. Or rather a terrorist. These players know exactly what they are doing. They simply care more about their personal profit then the success of the mission. Your interpretation of a logi player is misleading. Why do you make a distinction between the name and suit of a Logistics player but not for any other role?
I do the same distinction with any other roles including my own. I'm a dedicated scout in every sense of the word due to my years experience. I have been cross training into logistics for the better part of the past month but I have yet to call myself a logi player because I just don't have enough experience going into that role. I would say the same about myself if I cross train into assault or piloting vehicles or whatever.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10595
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Posted - 2014.12.27 23:53:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:what a load of crap.
you learn by doing. skill and knowledge don't just appear overnight. you have to work constantly on it.
did you learn how to scout/heavy/assault/tank etc on your first day. no so give the noobs a break. everyone has to learn somewhere. how about instead of blaming others for bad equipment locations how about you blame yourself for using them in these bad locations. noobs soon learn where and where not to place equipment when they don't get used. i'm still learning new stuff to this day and i have been a logi for years.
if you have a problem with any other role try looking at yourself first Calm yourself Adam. Unless you are the character I described than there is no quarrel between us. In fact I already knew how to be an Assault from countless hours of Call of Duty and I had a decent amount of experience as a logistics player from playing the engineer class from the Battlefront series. The heavy is just a simplified Assault. Also, the majority of players doing this aren't new players. I hope you know that.
I wouldn't necessarily say "majority" unless I have statistics to prove it. I would say "some" as that is a much broader term.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10595
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Posted - 2014.12.28 00:12:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
I do the same distinction with any other roles including my own. I'm a dedicated scout in every sense of the word due to my years experience. I have been cross training into logistics for the better part of the past month but I have yet to call myself a logi player because I just don't have enough experience going into that role. I would say the same about myself if I cross train into assault or piloting vehicles or whatever.
It is rather strange isn't it? All roles mark themselves clearly with their namesakes, but players in Assault suits don't. They, as well as many logistics, refer to them simply as slayers which is odd given that heavies and scouts tend to get comparable kill counts with scouts tending to get more WPfrom the hacking of objectives behind enemy lines. Is a player in an Assault suit with a Swarm Launcher still considered an Assault player? What if he dons Kinetic Catalyzers and a shotgun? Is he a scout or an Assault? What if he uses a Sniper Rifle and dampeners? Is he a Sniper or is he a dedicated Assault? What about if a scout player decides to use a Plasma Cannon and remote explosives against HAV's? Is he still consideed a scout, or is he now an Assault; or quite possibly just simply an AV player?
Assault seem to be the only oddball out of all the classes. From what I understand they are meant to be Jack of all trades but masters of none. Their main advantage should be flexibility. They can fit themselves to be scout-ish or AV-ish, or logi-ish if they want to but are unable to marginalize or outclass the other classes. Experience has taught me that they are meant more for direct, frontal attacks just like the Commandos. But that only means they are made redundant by the presence of the commandos who can tank more and wield two light weapons. They're a pretty weird case to comprehend.
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