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Jathniel wrote:

Pushing Charlie wrote:

Jathniel wrote:

I'm proud of them actually.

Not for interfering with my Dust time of course, but for trumping The System.

They aren't going to get caught if they know what they're doing.
Fk ISK, they will get paid in BTC and make out.

Them being able to tie up the networks like this, also goes to show just how silly the concept of 100% conversion to centralized console gaming networks truly is. "The future is cloud consoles" my ass.
Not only are these dudes going to make bank, they just further established why PC gaming is here to stay, and is growing.

Those motherfkers took life by the horns and won.
They get a big round of applause from me.

But it wasn't their original intention to trump the system and expose security issues, it was their intention to ruin the experience of the players, hence why it was staged on such a busy day like Christmas. If it was really their intention to target the companies on behalf of the people they wouldn't have accepted the bribe.

From what I've read from the beginning it was all 'For the lulz' now it's for the 'Consumer'. Anyone who hails these people for their actions is no better than them, what you've just announced to everyone is that you're proud of criminals, congratz.

Depends on the criminal and the "crime".
Some criminals are indeed worthy of praise, and these even more so. Law and Might don't make right. Hit the damn companies in the nose. Why should anyone gaf if you can't play a video game for a few days? lol
Regardless of their motivations, would anyone actually have taken them seriously if they said they were doing it "for the people"? LOL Of course not, so you just take action and let the rain fall where it will.
No better time to do that than THIS time of year. This whole thing is perfect for the very reasons you say it's bad.

Sony and M$ have a stupid series of systems going, and someone just showed them how easy that house of cards could be knocked over. The law be damned. Their actions are going to serve all the sanctimonious snobs out there in the long run anyway. It was a dirty job, and somebody had to do it.

They made their disturbance, brought juggernauts to their knees, and are going to make off for it if they're smart. What's there not to like about these guys, other than them interfering with your game time?

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calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2330	Posted - 2014.12.27 05:34:00 - [1] - Quote I am posting this for it shows you can push people around and you get rewarded. What a crazy world we live in. http://www.ibtimes.com/playstation-network-psn-still-down-xbox-live-back-after-lizard-squad-accepts-kim-1767872 Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 798	Posted - 2014.12.27 18:46:00 - [2] - Quote calvin b wrote: I am posting this for it shows you can push people around and you get rewarded. What a crazy world we live in. http://www.ibtimes.com/playstation-network-psn-still-down-xbox-live-back-after-lizard-squad-accepts-kim-1767872 Based Kim. How did he get out of jail? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1301	Posted - 2014.12.27 18:49:00 - [3] - Quote Btw when they get caught they'll be some guys pet in jail We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 1300	Posted - 2014.12.27 19:17:00 - [4] - Quote calvin b wrote: you can push people around and you get rewarded Give me ISK ***** Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1595	Posted - 2014.12.27 19:21:00 - [5] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Btw when they get caught they'll be some guys pet in jail Eventually , if they keep spamming attacks like they have been , that will be soon . I think that they made a fool out of a lot of people and caused enough trouble . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Jathniel G I A N T 1367	Posted - 2014.12.27 19:27:00 - [6] - Quote I'm proud of them actually. Not for interfering with my Dust time of course, but for trumping The System. They aren't going to get caught if they know what they're doing. Fk ISK, they will get paid in BTC and make out. This also goes to show just how silly the concept of 100% conversion to centralized console gaming networks truly is. Not only are these dudes going to make bank, they just further established why PC gaming is here to stay, and is growing. Those motherfkers took life by the horns and won. They get a big round of applause from me. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1302	Posted - 2014.12.27 19:35:00 - [7] - Quote Jathniel wrote: I'm proud of them actually. Not for interfering with my Dust time of course, but for trumping The System. They aren't going to get caught if they know what they're doing. Fk ISK, they will get paid in BTC and make out. Them being able to tie up the networks like this, also goes to show just how silly the concept of 100% conversion to centralized console gaming networks truly is. "The future is cloud consoles" my ass. Not only are these dudes going to make bank, they just further established why PC gaming is here to stay, and is growing. Those motherfkers took life by the horns and won. They get a big round of applause from me. You realize the ps4 and xbox 1 ARE cheap pcs right? Why do you hate on consoles gtf out let me enjoy my vice and you can enjoy yours. Why the hate for consoles We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Immortal John Ripper 26986	Posted - 2014.12.27 19:38:00 - [8] - Quote HAHAHAHA XD Tacos.
General John Ripper 26988	Posted - 2014.12.27 19:38:00 - [9] - Quote HAHAHAHA XD #NerfAllGuns
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1106	Posted - 2014.12.27 20:07:00 - [10] - Quote calvin b wrote: I am posting this for it shows you can push people around and you get rewarded. What a crazy world we live in. http://www.ibtimes.com/playstation-network-psn-still-down-xbox-live-back-after-lizard-squad-accepts-kim-1767872 Its a publicity stunt, he'll get more back than he's given. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2784	Posted - 2014.12.27 20:41:00 - [11] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Btw when they get caught they'll be some guys pet in jail Eventually , if they keep spamming attacks like they have been , that will be soon . I think that they made a fool out of a lot of people and caused enough trouble . You guys need to do some research on how DDoS works. The Bot-net or Zombie computers take the heat.. It would be near impossible to track down who is controling the computers. Worse is that Russia has had a cyber criminal economy that is established for 20 years... You can rent Bot-net's from them for a few hundred dollars... For them to be singled out and caught would be literally like winning the lottery. The only way to stop it... is to upgrade the server infrastructures and revamp net-code... Which is kinda their point.. These corporations operate in our countries making vast profit margins and paying next to no tax because of large corporate loop holes that they have spent collectively millions of dollars to create... at the same time not investing into the infrastructure of the very services they are selling us that largely aren't fully in place or are inadequate...
Jathniel G I A N T 1367	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:00:00 - [12] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Jathniel wrote: I'm proud of them actually. Not for interfering with my Dust time of course, but for trumping The System. They aren't going to get caught if they know what they're doing. Fk ISK, they will get paid in BTC and make out. Them being able to tie up the networks like this, also goes to show just how silly the concept of 100% conversion to centralized console gaming networks truly is. "The future is cloud consoles" my ass. Not only are these dudes going to make bank, they just further established why PC gaming is here to stay, and is growing. Those motherfkers took life by the horns and won. They get a big round of applause from me. You realize the ps4 and xbox 1 ARE cheap pcs right? Why do you hate on consoles gtf out let me enjoy my vice and you can enjoy yours. Why the hate for consoles lol i have no hate for consoles. Were it not for SMB on my old NES, I wouldn't be a gamer today. I just don't like the way Sony and M$ handle business for their consoles. PSN and Live have always been a bad idea to me. The major problems with how they run those networks has always been glaringly flawed, from PSN repeated hacks, to now everyone being locked out of the games they want to play. I'm of the opinion that PSN, should have never been so overreaching to begin with, that so "simple" a means of interference could cause this. Let it work like Steam or Origin on PC instead. Let games connect to game servers independently, and if someone wants to sign into PSN for added features, that's their choice. Sony and M$ are just so obsessed with having everyone and everything on lock... It annoys me. And now it's costing them. So I just refuse to support them. And I hope Lizard Squad squeezes the fk out of the networks as long as possible til everyone gets the point that the system needs to change. Was playing Star Citizen today. Arena Commander 1.0 came out, so I honestly don't GAF. But I'm not tied to a network. Centralizing the games like this was always a bad idea, and this situation we're in today, is why. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1303	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:01:00 - [13] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Btw when they get caught they'll be some guys pet in jail Eventually , if they keep spamming attacks like they have been , that will be soon . I think that they made a fool out of a lot of people and caused enough trouble . You guys need to do some research on how DDoS works. The Bot-net or Zombie computers take the heat.. It would be near impossible to track down who is controling the computers. Worse is that Russia has had a cyber criminal economy that is established for 20 years... You can rent Bot-net's from them for a few hundred dollars... For them to be singled out and caught would be literally like winning the lottery. The only way to stop it... is to upgrade the server infrastructures and revamp net-code... Which is kinda their point.. These corporations operate in our countries making vast profit margins and paying next to no tax because of large corporate loop holes that they have spent collectively millions of dollars to create... at the same time not investing into the infrastructure of the very services they are selling us that largely aren't fully in place or are inadequate... Dude i don't care. Afterall if sony or microsoft really wanted to they could just pull the plug. Remember when twinkies weren't around due to strikes? They said whatever shutdown the company. Then after a few months came back when the strikers begged them for their jobs back. If anything lizard squad won't help just get rid off console gaming. Can't bite the hand that feeds bro. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Jathniel G I A N T 1367	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:10:00 - [14] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: . . . If anything lizard squad won't help just get rid off console gaming. Can't bite the hand that feeds bro. lol.... They're not trying to get rid of console gaming man. There's nothing wrong with console gaming itself. For all intents and purposes, Lizard just saw a huge flaw with how these networks were run, and for shltz and lolz they blasted the fk out of them. What's important to take note of are the implications. The very function of PSN and Live. The exclusives, and games that can only be accessed through them. Understand, CCP is just fine. TQ server is just fine. There's literally no reason why your Playstation can't connect to TQ, other than because of PSN. PSN should be totally unnecessary to the process. That's all I'm saying. lol I'm just laughing at how so many defended these centralized networks as a 'form of gaming', meanwhile it's doing nothing but being humiliated right now. It's not a form of gaming, it's a form of control, and it has no been flipped right on its head. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Jathniel G I A N T 1367	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:12:00 - [15] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Btw when they get caught they'll be some guys pet in jail Eventually , if they keep spamming attacks like they have been , that will be soon . I think that they made a fool out of a lot of people and caused enough trouble . You guys need to do some research on how DDoS works. The Bot-net or Zombie computers take the heat.. It would be near impossible to track down who is controling the computers. Worse is that Russia has had a cyber criminal economy that is established for 20 years... You can rent Bot-net's from them for a few hundred dollars... For them to be singled out and caught would be literally like winning the lottery. The only way to stop it... is to upgrade the server infrastructures and revamp net-code... Which is kinda their point.. These corporations operate in our countries making vast profit margins and paying next to no tax because of large corporate loop holes that they have spent collectively millions of dollars to create... at the same time not investing into the infrastructure of the very services they are selling us that largely aren't fully in place or are inadequate... Yes. So much this. Surprised you even bothered to go into that little bit of detail. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4274	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:26:00 - [16] - Quote Jathniel wrote: I'm proud of them actually. Not for interfering with my Dust time of course, but for trumping The System. They aren't going to get caught if they know what they're doing. Fk ISK, they will get paid in BTC and make out. Them being able to tie up the networks like this, also goes to show just how silly the concept of 100% conversion to centralized console gaming networks truly is. "The future is cloud consoles" my ass. Not only are these dudes going to make bank, they just further established why PC gaming is here to stay, and is growing. Those motherfkers took life by the horns and won. They get a big round of applause from me. Gotta give credit where it's due. They won. Yeah it's annoying that we couldn't play for a few days but it's not the end of the world. People need to chill out with all this outrage. Hell, Sony or MS might give its customers some minor compensation for the downtime. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 6688	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:30:00 - [17] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: . . . If anything lizard squad won't help just get rid off console gaming. Can't bite the hand that feeds bro. lol.... They're not trying to get rid of console gaming man. There's nothing wrong with console gaming itself. For all intents and purposes, Lizard just saw a huge flaw with how these networks were run, and for shltz and lolz they blasted the fk out of them. What's important to take note of are the implications. The very function of PSN and Live. The exclusives, and games that can only be accessed through them. Understand, CCP is just fine. TQ server is just fine. There's literally no reason why your Playstation can't connect to TQ, other than because of PSN. PSN should be totally unnecessary to the process. That's all I'm saying. lol I'm just laughing at how so many defended these centralized networks as a 'form of gaming', meanwhile it's doing nothing but being humiliated right now. It's not a form of gaming, it's a form of control, and it has no been flipped right on its head. You've been manipulated by 12 year Olds on the Internet. GG lizardsquad CBM [Event]Dust Hunger Games PC, ISK,EVE, Corp Services
Jacques Cayton II Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1303	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:36:00 - [18] - Quote Control of what? Games? Sooooo wait is sony trying to make me a slave? Is walmart gonna take over? Are banks gonna be taking my money? Control is necessary in some aspects. Can't have everything We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
BL4CKST4R Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3506	Posted - 2014.12.27 22:25:00 - [19] - Quote I blame it on the constitution and the part that mentions cruel and unusual punishment. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 563	Posted - 2014.12.27 22:46:00 - [20] - Quote Jathniel wrote: I'm proud of them actually. Not for interfering with my Dust time of course, but for trumping The System. They aren't going to get caught if they know what they're doing. Fk ISK, they will get paid in BTC and make out. Them being able to tie up the networks like this, also goes to show just how silly the concept of 100% conversion to centralized console gaming networks truly is. "The future is cloud consoles" my ass. Not only are these dudes going to make bank, they just further established why PC gaming is here to stay, and is growing. Those motherfkers took life by the horns and won. They get a big round of applause from me. But it wasn't their original intention to trump the system and expose security issues, it was their intention to ruin the experience of the players, hence why it was staged on such a busy day like Christmas. If it was really their intention to target the companies on behalf of the people they wouldn't have accepted the bribe. From what I've read from the beginning it was all 'For the lulz' now it's for the 'Consumer'. Anyone who hails these people for their actions is no better than them, what you've just announced to everyone is that you're proud of criminals, congratz. May we never forget his sacrifice

Stryker Syx Vector D3ATH CARD RUST415 39	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:19:00 - [21] - Quote Jathniel wrote: I'm proud of them actually. Not for interfering with my Dust time of course, but for trumping The System. They aren't going to get caught if they know what they're doing. Fk ISK, they will get paid in BTC and make out. Them being able to tie up the networks like this, also goes to show just how silly the concept of 100% conversion to centralized console gaming networks truly is. "The future is cloud consoles" my ass. Not only are these dudes going to make bank, they just further established why PC gaming is here to stay, and is growing. Those motherfkers took life by the horns and won. They get a big round of applause from me. Please off yourself.
Jathniel G I A N T 1370	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:28:00 - [22] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: Jathniel wrote: I'm proud of them actually. Not for interfering with my Dust time of course, but for trumping The System. They aren't going to get caught if they know what they're doing. Fk ISK, they will get paid in BTC and make out. Them being able to tie up the networks like this, also goes to show just how silly the concept of 100% conversion to centralized console gaming networks truly is. "The future is cloud consoles" my ass. Not only are these dudes going to make bank, they just further established why PC gaming is here to stay, and is growing. Those motherfkers took life by the horns and won. They get a big round of applause from me. But it wasn't their original intention to trump the system and expose security issues, it was their intention to ruin the experience of the players, hence why it was staged on such a busy day like Christmas. If it was really their intention to target the companies on behalf of the people they wouldn't have accepted the bribe. From what I've read from the beginning it was all 'For the lulz' now it's for the 'Consumer'. Anyone who hails these people for their actions is no better than them, what you've just announced to everyone is that you're proud of criminals, congratz. Depends on the criminal and the "crime". Some criminals are indeed worthy of praise, and these even more so. Law and Might don't make right. Hit the damn companies in the nose. Why should anyone gaf if you can't play a video game for a few days? lol Regardless of their motivations, would anyone actually have taken them seriously if they said they were doing it "for the people"? LOL Of course not, so you just take action and let the rain fall where it will. No better time to do that than THIS time of year. This whole thing is perfect for the very reasons you say it's bad. Sony and M$ have a stupid series of systems going, and someone just showed them how easy that house of cards could be knocked over. The law be damned. Their actions are going to serve all the sanctimonious snobs out there in the long run anyway. It was a dirty job, and somebody had to do it. They made their disturbance, brought juggernauts to their knees, and are going to make off for it if they're smart. What's there not to like about these guys, other than them interfering with your game time? Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 565	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:47:00 - [23] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Pushing Charlie wrote: Jathniel wrote: I'm proud of them actually. Not for interfering with my Dust time of course, but for trumping The System. They aren't going to get caught if they know what they're doing. Fk ISK, they will get paid in BTC and make out. Them being able to tie up the networks like this, also goes to show just how silly the concept of 100% conversion to centralized console gaming networks truly is. "The future is cloud consoles" my ass. Not only are these dudes going to make bank, they just further established why PC gaming is here to stay, and is growing. Those motherfkers took life by the horns and won. They get a big round of applause from me. But it wasn't their original intention to trump the system and expose security issues, it was their intention to ruin the experience of the players, hence why it was staged on such a busy day like Christmas. If it was really their intention to target the companies on behalf of the people they wouldn't have accepted the bribe. From what I've read from the beginning it was all 'For the lulz' now it's for the 'Consumer'. Anyone who hails these people for their actions is no better than them, what you've just announced to everyone is that you're proud of criminals, congratz. Depends on the criminal and the "crime". Some criminals are indeed worthy of praise, and these even more so. Law and Might don't make right. Hit the damn companies in the nose. Why should anyone gaf if you can't play a video game for a few days? lol Regardless of their motivations, would anyone actually have taken them seriously if they said they were doing it "for the people"? LOL Of course not, so you just take action and let the rain fall where it will. No better time to do that than THIS time of year. This whole thing is perfect for the very reasons you say it's bad. Sony and M$ have a stupid series of systems going, and someone just showed them how easy that house of cards could be knocked over. The law be damned. Their actions are going to serve all the sanctimonious snobs out there in the long run anyway. It was a dirty job, and somebody had to do it. They made their disturbance, brought juggernauts to their knees, and are going to make off for it if they're smart. What's there not to like about these guys, other than them interfering with your game time? I am proud of a few criminals, after all it is criminals that fought back against corruption and gave us the freedom we may have today. The difference between those guys and Lizardsquad is that they knew what they were doing and why, LS may know what they're doing but none of them have any idea why, they've jumped from one excuse to another and accepted an offer to stop once it came their way, that is absolutely nothing to be proud of. There are ways of handling situations like this in which you do not disrupt the enjoyment of many people, you can attempt to join Sony's security team like a mature adult and highlighting security issues without breaking the law, disrupting consumer's play time and you get paid for it. What I don't like about these guys is that they claim to do one thing and then bail out as soon as they're offered money. Doing something properly with good reason, and sticking through with it no matter what comes your way, now that's something to be proud of. May we never forget his sacrifice
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5611	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:49:00 - [24] - Quote Jathniel wrote: What's important to take note of are the implications. The very function of PSN and Live. The exclusives, and games that can only be accessed through them. Understand, CCP is just fine. TQ server is just fine. There's literally no reason why your Playstation can't connect to TQ, other than because of PSN. PSN should be totally unnecessary to the process. That's all I'm saying. lol I'm just laughing at how so many defended these centralized networks as a 'form of gaming', meanwhile it's doing nothing but being humiliated right now. It's not a form of gaming, it's a form of control, and it has no been flipped right on its head. Jathniel has a point. Sonny and MS wanted complete control over their gaming empires, and in setting up that tight control they made their gaming platforms vulnerable. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 743	Posted - 2014.12.28 00:02:00 - [25] - Quote Kim is a hero for so many reasons.
Jathniel G I A N T 1370	Posted - 2014.12.28 00:52:00 - [26] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Jathniel wrote: What's important to take note of are the implications. The very function of PSN and Live. The exclusives, and games that can only be accessed through them. Understand, CCP is just fine. TQ server is just fine. There's literally no reason why your Playstation can't connect to TQ, other than because of PSN. PSN should be totally unnecessary to the process. That's all I'm saying. lol I'm just laughing at how so many defended these centralized networks as a 'form of gaming', meanwhile it's doing nothing but being humiliated right now. It's not a form of gaming, it's a form of control, and it has no been flipped right on its head. Jathniel has a point. Sonny and MS wanted complete control over their gaming empires, and in setting up that tight control they made their gaming platforms vulnerable. Yes. CCP can't patch the Dust client without going through PSN. You can't get to Dust without going through PSN. You can't buy AUR, without going through PSN. (~~You can't take a **** without going through PSN.~~ Wait no no!That was patched this afternoon!) Then when PSN is hit, and down. Everything stops. That centralization on PSN is the problem. Not to mention maintenance concerns that Beth mentioned earlier. They sold many players on this centralized gaming network, and the last couple days showed exactly why it was a bad idea. But this was proven before as well. PSN outages are something people are almost used to now. Don't know how many times I've heard friends go, "PSN is down again??" If they don't learn from this situation, and change the fundamental function of PSN to something more passive like maybe Steam, the next major DDoS attack is going to be worse. What are the fundamental reasons why Sony and M$ REQUIRE players to go through their network first, BEFORE being connected to the proper game server? Anyone know? 1 million isk. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.


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