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Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4184	Posted - 2014.12.27 04:52:00 - [31] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: I honestly don't even believe in the fact that you are a tanker/ vehicle specialist. You're probably like Atiim who thinks he knows the vehicles side of thins because he once drove a gunnlogi with militia modules and went 15-0 in a match full of starter fit new players. No, I'm just not an idiot and I understand how checks and balances work. You simply don't like the fact that I don't agree with you, so you've convinced yourself that I have no idea what I'm talking about so you can just simply assume I'm incorrect. Again I repeat, you are never, at any point, 100% safe from being blapped into oblivion without any warning. There are COUNTLESS situations in EVE which will instantly kill you, without warning, and without any way to avoid it if you don't know it's coming. HTFU. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1392	Posted - 2014.12.27 04:55:00 - [32] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: I honestly don't even believe in the fact that you are a tanker/ vehicle specialist. You're probably like Atiim who thinks he knows the vehicles side of thins because he once drove a gunnlogi with militia modules and went 15-0 in a match full of starter fit new players. No, I'm just not an idiot and I understand how checks and balances work. You simply don't like the fact that I don't agree with you, so you've convinced yourself that I have no idea what I'm talking about so you can just simply assume I'm incorrect. Again I repeat, you are never, at any point, 100% safe from being blapped into oblivion without any warning. There are COUNTLESS situations in EVE which will instantly kill you, without warning, and without any way to avoid it if you don't know it's coming. HTFU. Hole up, if you think this I WIN button for infantry is perfectly fine, then you do not understand Checks and Balances work. Explain to me again, why is it ok to nerf and nerf scouts because infantry don't like being insta blapped by shotguns but not nerf the warbarage? Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4184	Posted - 2014.12.27 05:05:00 - [33] - Quote Decloak delay nerfs shotgun scouts, just as it is difficult to hit a moving target with a warbarge. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1392	Posted - 2014.12.27 05:09:00 - [34] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Decloak delay nerfs shotgun scouts, just as it is difficult to hit a moving target with a warbarge. No it's not... Its like trying to hit an enemy running around with a mass driver adding in the fact that you can teleport right above him. It doesn't matter if you miss him directly hit him, with a diameter so big you instantly kill him. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4184	Posted - 2014.12.27 05:10:00 - [35] - Quote Geeze I guess I'm just really good at dodging Orbitals then. I'm sorry you have so much difficulty. EDIT: But hey, I'll hear you out. How about you stop complaining for a couple seconds, and tell us all what you feel the appropriate amount of damage the Laser Orbital Strike should do. I want to see some hard number suggestions. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1392	Posted - 2014.12.27 05:23:00 - [36] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Geeze I guess I'm just really good at dodging Orbitals then. I'm sorry you have so much difficulty. EDIT: But hey, I'll hear you out. How about you stop complaining for a couple seconds, and tell us all what you feel the appropriate amount of damage the Laser Orbital Strike should do. I want to see some hard number suggestions. I don't know the damage is in the first place but as long as it isn't ridiculous to a point where it instakills. I mean, if each laser during the barrage did about 750 damage keeping in mind that they drop really fast, i'd be fine. Like, I don't know the exact number on it right now but it has to be near like 2000 something. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4184	Posted - 2014.12.27 05:31:00 - [37] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Geeze I guess I'm just really good at dodging Orbitals then. I'm sorry you have so much difficulty. EDIT: But hey, I'll hear you out. How about you stop complaining for a couple seconds, and tell us all what you feel the appropriate amount of damage the Laser Orbital Strike should do. I want to see some hard number suggestions. I don't know the damage is in the first place but as long as it isn't ridiculous to a point where it instakills. I mean, if each laser during the barrage did about 750 damage keeping in mind that they drop really fast, i'd be fine. Like, I don't know the exact number on it right now but it has to be near like 2000 something. I believe each laser orbital is 24 volleys. At 750 each that's 18,000 damage. So what you're saying is that you wan to survive a a Laser Orbital, yes? So your double hardened Gunnlogi has what...9000 eHP. So at 24 shots you want each to have 375 damage each? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
DarthJT5 12th Shadow Legion 177	Posted - 2014.12.27 05:43:00 - [38] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: DarthJT5 wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Lol, tanks can go up to 700k if you put on proto small turrets, your point is? Anyway, nobody forced you to run proto this and that. I run a standard/ advanced logi and I do fine. I use advanced equipment and I do fine. If I drove around with a tank with advanced modules- I'd get lit up faster than you can say fast. If that's true, then your pretty bad. I use sica's from time to time when I'm not using my proto missiles, and I dont even lose them except maybe 1 out of 5 matches. If your using adv, you should barely ever lose the tank unless facing multiple(more than 2) AV'ers, and even then, you can still get away most of the time if you know what your doing. Please stop being like Spkr and acting like tanks are UP, you make the rest of us look bad. Well, come up against my squad. I'll show you how it feels to be batterd to sht as soon as you leave the redline. Seriously, I'll bring my Minmatar commando and kill you and you'll have no other choice than accept death. Also, why would people call warbarages on sicas, those are easy as sht to destroy. There's your problem right there. Your going to take your squad to fight 1 person. In that case, how about I bring MY squad that covers my tank as I destroy any and all vehicles on the field, while also missile sniping infantry for the lolz. Also, I kill pretty much destroy every AV person ever that tries to solo my tank. You bring your min mando, I'll bring my XT's, you'll be short 1 drop suit. Also, idk who would call a war barge on a sica, because I never mentioned someone doing that in my post. Uou didn't get the point. You said you couldn't drive a tank with adv mods without getting lit up faster than you can say fast, I said that I can drive sica's and barely ever lose them. Where do war barges come into the point there? Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Up and coming Python pilot. The awnser is always XT missiles....
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16290	Posted - 2014.12.27 07:25:00 - [39] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: It instantly kills tanks. Like wtf CCP. Dude you got blapped by a larger calibre gun/laser/whatever. I'll take this slowly for you since I'm sure you probably won't understand this anyway. A Rifle Calibre bullet does not hurt a tank. A larger anti personnel MG bullet might do some damage at close range to a tank. An even large Anti Tank round might penetrate tank armour at medium range (not often at long) A tank round more often penetrates tank armour as well. A 400 pound bomb dropped from a bombed annihilates columns of tanks..... What do you think a cannon with a round/charge deployable from orbit could do? Yes Dukey it penetrates you tanks armour regardless of what you do. Logically a tank has weak armour on the top and bottom due to lack of need for it. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16291	Posted - 2014.12.27 07:37:00 - [40] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Well, come up against my squad. I'll show you how it feels to be batterd to sht as soon as you leave the redline. Seriously, I'll bring my Minmatar commando and kill you and you'll have no other choice than accept death. Also, why would people call warbarages on sicas, those are easy as sht to destroy. Oh noes buddy..... your squad of big bad asshats with the same pro-douchery over powered tool as hell mentality as you? I'm thoroughly trembling here in my little black lambskin slippers. Oh wait almost dropped my cup of tea quaking in fear...... Ends sarcasm. Toodles Dukey. Also gave a like to every non tanker in this thread. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.

DarthJT5 12th Shadow Legion 181	Posted - 2014.12.27 07:44:00 - [41] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Well, come up against my squad. I'll show you how it feels to be batterd to sht as soon as you leave the redline. Seriously, I'll bring my Minmatar commando and kill you and you'll have no other choice than accept death. Also, why would people call warbarages on sicas, those are easy as sht to destroy. Oh noes buddy..... your squad of big bad asshats with the same pro-douchery over powered tool as hell mentality as you? I'm thoroughly trembling here in my little black lambskin slippers. Oh wait almost dropped my cup of tea quaking in fear...... Ends sarcasm. Toodles Dukey. Also gave a like to every non tanker in this thread. Aww.... You gave me a like cries Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Up and coming Python pilot. The awnser is always XT missiles....
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1213	Posted - 2014.12.27 08:57:00 - [42] - Quote Summary of Sir Dukey's posts (not just this thread, but in general): Waah wah wah, my stuff got destroyed, wah, why did you nerf that thing that was OP when I and my douche Proto squad were abusing the hell out of it? Wah wah I want easy mode, but I'll keep calling things a win button that are actually reasonably balanced, wah, WAH! Dukey, grow up. The laser orbital is nasty as anything, but even if (and this isn't the case) 5000 WP were quick and easy to get (if someone gets a laser strike in the first two minutes of a game, your team is awful, so why are you bringing in 500k HAVs?!) then the small radius (and yes, it is a smaller radius than the standard strike) alone makes it harder to hit a moving target. You mock people who say that HAVs can avoid it, but then you talk about how you survive OBs as infantry? Go back to your bridge and rehydrate, sunshine. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1424	Posted - 2014.12.27 10:27:00 - [43] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: what suit cost 235k isk? My protosuits cost freking 130-150k isk. Run a proto Logi suit. 230k ISK is pretty normal. Lol, tanks can go up to 700k if you put on proto small turrets, your point is? Anyway, nobody forced you to run proto this and that. I run a standard/ advanced logi and I do fine. I use advanced equipment and I do fine. If I drove around with a tank with advanced modules- I'd get lit up faster than you can say fast. [/quote] My point is you asked fairly directly what suit costs 235k ISK an cited your own proto suit as a comparative example. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16297	Posted - 2014.12.27 11:47:00 - [44] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: what suit cost 235k isk? My protosuits cost freeing 130-150k isk. Run a proto Logi suit. 230k ISK is pretty normal. Lol, tanks can go up to 700k if you put on proto small turrets, your point is? Anyway, nobody forced you to run proto this and that. I run a standard/ advanced logi and I do fine. I use advanced equipment and I do fine. If I drove around with a tank with advanced modules- I'd get lit up faster than you can say fast. My point is you asked fairly directly what suit costs 235k ISK an cited your own proto suit as a comparative example. Nor did I say anything about not being satisfied with the preformance results when running less than proto level gear. Normally I would say something to the effect of "no one forced you to run a tank either" but I'll just have a laugh and move on. No one forces you sure....but its the only entertaining thing to do. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 303	Posted - 2014.12.27 13:30:00 - [45] - Quote 1. Major Laser warbarge strike requires 5k WP 2. It causes over 35k of damage - It wipes out CRUs in 1 hit 3. Its about 250m in size so if your still your dead 4. No HAV currently will be able to survive a strike like that unless you are on the fringes of it and are moving
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2336	Posted - 2014.12.27 17:31:00 - [46] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Well, come up against my squad. I'll show you how it feels to be batterd to sht as soon as you leave the redline. Seriously, I'll bring my Minmatar commando and kill you and you'll have no other choice than accept death. Also, why would people call warbarages on sicas, those are easy as sht to destroy. Oh noes buddy..... your squad of big bad asshats with the same pro-douchery over powered tool as hell mentality as you? I'm thoroughly trembling here in my little black lambskin slippers. Oh wait almost dropped my cup of tea quaking in fear...... Ends sarcasm. Toodles Dukey. Also gave a like to every non tanker in this thread. I am not a "Non-Tanker"!!! I am simply a Tanker without a Tank!! Amarr/Minmatar vehicles are OP (especially Minmatar speed tanks) ^The reason why CCP is afraid to release them
Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 156	Posted - 2014.12.27 17:34:00 - [47] - Quote Dukey, quit slandering our name. For fucks sake, just stop complaining all over the forums. But to reply to your OP: The major laser warbarge strikes cost 5000, and is used by a ship that makes a Python look like a fly. You don't think, you know, maybe a spaceship of that magnitude carry some firepower? Even if it's a minute laser beam on their end, it would look like a fireworks barrage on our end. For the State! Assault ck.0. Logistics ck.0. Scout ck.0. Commando ck.0. Next suit: Sentinel ck.0
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1396	Posted - 2014.12.27 17:49:00 - [48] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: Dukey, quit slandering our name. For fucks sake, just stop complaining all over the forums. But to reply to your OP: The major laser warbarge strikes cost 5000, and is used by a ship that makes a Python look like a fly. You don't think, you know, maybe a spaceship of that magnitude carry some firepower? Even if it's a minute laser beam on their end, it would look like a fireworks barrage on our end. I was trolling, I'm a scout lol. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
iKILLu osborne Titans of Phoenix 564	Posted - 2014.12.27 17:59:00 - [49] - Quote i agree with op if it pops you "instantly" then yes it is overpowered, everything else in this game can be avoided with positioning and situational awareness, this should be no different. if you shoot me from the redline i will ensure your death will be a swift one
Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 156	Posted - 2014.12.27 18:07:00 - [50] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Songs of Seraphim wrote: Dukey, quit slandering our name. For fucks sake, just stop complaining all over the forums. But to reply to your OP: The major laser warbarge strikes cost 5000, and is used by a ship that makes a Python look like a fly. You don't think, you know, maybe a spaceship of that magnitude carry some firepower? Even if it's a minute laser beam on their end, it would look like a fireworks barrage on our end. I was trolling, I'm a scout lol. My first points still stand. For the State! Assault ck.0. Logistics ck.0. Scout ck.0. Commando ck.0. Next suit: Sentinel ck.0

Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 188	Posted - 2014.12.27 20:10:00 - [51] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Well, come up against my squad. I'll show you how it feels to be batterd to sht as soon as you leave the redline. Seriously, I'll bring my Minmatar commando and kill you and you'll have no other choice than accept death. Also, why would people call warbarages on sicas, those are easy as sht to destroy. Oh noes buddy..... your squad of big bad asshats with the same pro-douchery over powered tool as hell mentality as you? I'm thoroughly trembling here in my little black lambskin slippers. Oh wait almost dropped my cup of tea quaking in fear...... Ends sarcasm. Toodles Dukey. Also gave a like to every non tanker in this thread. Just here for the like LOL. The Little Girl with the HMG
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 188	Posted - 2014.12.27 20:13:00 - [52] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The forums are just full ok punk ass infantry losers who don't give a sht about vehicles. Sorry I even came here, even if vehicles where one shot by freking smg rounds and infantry would be happy and not give a sht. F*ck you all. All ive seen are tankers complain about AV units I nitroed away from the place of the OB but still 20 m away I Got hit. 20m isnt far when in a orbital... The Little Girl with the HMG
manboar thunder fist Dead Man's Game RUST415 333	Posted - 2014.12.27 20:22:00 - [53] - Quote It takes 5000 war points. That's the equivalent of 20 tank destructions given 2 damage and 1 destruction points. It's pretty balanced if you're killing 1 tank tbf. Also it gives q huge noise and visual warning, and you can just boost out. "If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
Megaman Trigger Knights of Eternal Darkness 165	Posted - 2014.12.27 20:58:00 - [54] - Quote Laser Strike operates as a combination of Major Flux and Major Warbarge Strikes. The initial 'shot' acts as a flux, taking out shields instantly while the remaining are directed to armour. That's how it was explained to me anyway. Purifier. First Class.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4210	Posted - 2014.12.27 23:31:00 - [55] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Laser Strike operates as a combination of Major Flux and Major Warbarge Strikes. The initial 'shot' acts as a flux, taking out shields instantly while the remaining are directed to armour. That's how it was explained to me anyway. Technically Lasers are +20%/-20% for Shields and Armor but the damage is so great that it doesn't really matter, and honestly I don't think the orbitals technically have a damage type, it's just neutral damage. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
TRULY ELITE Titans of Phoenix 271	Posted - 2014.12.29 09:52:00 - [56] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Songs of Seraphim wrote: Dukey, quit slandering our name. For fucks sake, just stop complaining all over the forums. But to reply to your OP: The major laser warbarge strikes cost 5000, and is used by a ship that makes a Python look like a fly. You don't think, you know, maybe a spaceship of that magnitude carry some firepower? Even if it's a minute laser beam on their end, it would look like a fireworks barrage on our end. I was trolling, I'm a scout lol. Lol now he knows he's lost when he resorts to saying 'I'm trolling'. I think it's fair to say that this kiddy got rekt Born Amarr, Pure Minmatar. Assault, Commando, Logistics, Sentinel, Scout MK.0
SirManBoy Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 728	Posted - 2014.12.29 10:28:00 - [57] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: It instantly kills tanks. Like wtf CCP. Working as intended.


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