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KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6546	Posted - 2014.12.26 14:54:00 - [1] - Quote So, apart from the fact that if i get in CQ situations vs MORE than one person i will probably die, i get Hate mail EVERY SINGLE GAME. Sure , people get mad cuz, im camping on an elevated position shooting down at them with my RR while they cannot shoot back. But again, THIS IS HOW CCP MADE CALDARIS! As i see it , Caldaris with RR;s are meant to be like Combat Snipers. And Its not like its easy! Up here there is a whole different world you have to be careful of. Snipers will always target you first. ADS are a Nightmare unless i happen to be using my CalMando. IF there is a ground access to the roof/elevated position:Scouts Will try to sneak behind you and slit your throat while they scream bathing in your blood and the rest of their team Dances Naked under the moon.... And it sucks being a roof camper who cant pilot a dropship... Yesterday i was fighting against a team that had an ADS always hovering over me (LionsFan I think) And another Dropship with Mobile CRU Just dropping 2-3 People over my head every minute... I dont know anymore, i should probably just go back to Amarr Assault...Its the only role I'm mildly decent at and people dont hate me for it...(as much) Amarrian Born And State Patriot.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 410	Posted - 2014.12.26 15:00:00 - [2] - Quote You forgot that unless you have god helping you in CQ or if you are trying to move your weapon is worthless so you have to sit on a roof to even use the dang thing. And that Laser weapons will kill you immediately. The State will always survive.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6546	Posted - 2014.12.26 15:40:00 - [3] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: You forgot that unless you have god helping you in CQ or if you are trying to move your weapon is worthless so you have to sit on a roof to even use the dang thing. And that Laser weapons will kill you immediately. Well i AM amarrian. So God Is always helping me...but even then.... XD Amarrian Born And State Patriot.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2184	Posted - 2014.12.26 16:54:00 - [4] - Quote I use an ARR and RR The *real problem* is how there is no gamemode that supports Caldari Range. (But even with that we pull off days of only victory) Ambush, only one map supports RR/ARR. Skirmish, Must control or fight a uphill battle. Domination, spelled damnation for Caldari Tech users. "Raven's damn good with those *knives*." - Maleki "The Gallente have proven unworthy of respect."
Henrietta Unknown Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 668	Posted - 2014.12.26 16:58:00 - [5] - Quote Which is why I A) Use an ARR B) Take a scout suit C) Pick my battles with the scout suit But I imagine the second two options aren't feasible to everyone. Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14096	Posted - 2014.12.26 17:01:00 - [6] - Quote The RR is better suited for keeping control rather than taking it. Since most maps are like 90% open terrain, reaching the CQC points under RR fire is a pain in the arse. When you need to actually Assault a position, or the enemy has breached your defenses, an ARR will serve you better. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 619	Posted - 2014.12.26 17:03:00 - [7] - Quote It always been tough. And i think it will stay like this. Well, be like Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba and fight till the end :]. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6548	Posted - 2014.12.26 17:09:00 - [8] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: It always been tough. And i think it will stay like this. Well, be like Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba and fight till the end :]. :') Amarrian Born And State Patriot.
Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 145	Posted - 2014.12.26 17:12:00 - [9] - Quote It's a real pain in the ass. Especially in domination. I suggest to make a suit for city and close range maps with an Assault Rail Rifle -- that's how I usually have my assaults separated, one for open maps and capturing an objective, and another for breaching an enemy point or close quarter madness. Still sucks being fluxed in CQC. For the State! Assault ck.0. Logistics ck.0. Scout ck.0. Commando ck.0. Next suit: Sentinel ck.0 Go balls deep!
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6548	Posted - 2014.12.26 17:13:00 - [10] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: It's a real pain in the ass. Especially in domination. I suggest to make a suit for city and close range maps with an Assault Rail Rifle -- that's how I usually have my assaults separated, one for open maps and capturing an objective, and another for breaching an enemy point or close quarter madness. Still sucks being fluxed in CQC. HAte fluxes indeed. Btw i also have Ck.0 all ATM. (did a respec) Sentinel is badass. Logi is the weakest of them all, the only purchase i regret from caldari... Amarrian Born And State Patriot.

Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 145	Posted - 2014.12.26 17:20:00 - [11] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Songs of Seraphim wrote: It's a real pain in the ass. Especially in domination. I suggest to make a suit for city and close range maps with an Assault Rail Rifle -- that's how I usually have my assaults separated, one for open maps and capturing an objective, and another for breaching an enemy point or close quarter madness. Still sucks being fluxed in CQC. HAte fluxes indeed. Btw i also have Ck.0 all ATM. (did a respec) Sentinel is badass. Logi is the weakest of them all, the only purchase i regret from caldari... The Commando ck.0 has an interesting niche (and hits like a train with any Rail Rifle) but it's a tad too squishy for its size. Assault ck.0 is pretty beastly if fitted right, even with those prolonged shield delays. The infamous Scout ck.0 is okay... having no precision is bad, having a range bonus is worse with the way things are with range amplifiers. I have yet to fully spec into the Sentinel... Though I want to use it for Forge Gunning. The Logi... Oh the Logi... Hopefully they implement the rework of Logistics and Commandos, otherwise, the low CPU on a CPU-intensive race is really detrimental. I can use it no problem, but... I hardly use it nowadays (unless there is no other logi). For the State! Assault ck.0. Logistics ck.0. Scout ck.0. Commando ck.0. Next suit: Sentinel ck.0
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6548	Posted - 2014.12.26 17:40:00 - [12] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: The Commando ck.0 has an interesting niche (and hits like a train with any Rail Rifle) but it's a tad too squishy for its size. Assault ck.0 is pretty beastly if fitted right, even with those prolonged shield delays. The infamous Scout ck.0 is okay... having no precision is bad, having a range bonus is worse with the way things are with range amplifiers. I have yet to fully spec into the Sentinel... Though I want to use it for Forge Gunning. The Logi... Oh the Logi... Hopefully they implement the rework of Logistics and Commandos, otherwise, the low CPU on a CPU-intensive race is really detrimental. I can use it no problem, but... I hardly use it nowadays (unless there is no other logi). -The Commando ck.0 has an interesting niche (and hits like a train with any Rail Rifle) but it's a tad too squishy for its size. Agreed. He is my Main Tower Camper. I usually take it out when i know im spawning on a roof of sort and infantry cannot get to me on foot. Kaalakiota and Swarm launcher 2 cx Damage mods + 1 Shield Energizer + 1 cx Reactive plates. -Assault ck.0 is pretty beastly if fitted right, even with those prolonged shield delays. It is pretty beastly. If you fit it correctly, you wont have too much problem with those shield delays :3 (I use 2 Shield Energizers and 2 CX shield Regulators XD) -The infamous Scout ck.0 is okay... having no precision is bad, having a range bonus is worse with the way things are with range amplifiers. Incorrect. Having a Range bonus of 50% When a COMPLEX Range amp gives you 15% is Godly. Any other scout would need at least 2 cx range amps and STILL not get the same range as the cal scout. My cal scout works both as true scout (2 cx Precision enh and 1 cx Damp) or Battle Scout ( 4Cx Shield Extenders,1 Cx Reactive plate, 1 cx Shield Regulator) I truly think the Cal scout is the best scout ATM...But this, im aware is just my opinion. -The Logi... Oh the Logi... Hopefully they implement the rework of Logistics and Commandos, otherwise, the low CPU on a CPU-intensive race is really detrimental. Nothing to say there, you are right. The sentinel is the most Awesome s**** ever. The only reason im not running around with it and a Kaalakiota is because i dont have ammo.... @ Proto Level i use it with 2 Shield Exntenders 2 Shield Energizers/rechargers and 1 cx Shield regulator. I get Over 700 Shields at 80+ Shield regen per sec with only 2.4(i think) Shield recharge delay and an Incredibly OP 0.6 Shield Depleted delay... PLUS Freakn Shield resistance to lasers...MUAHAHA Aww..no ammo and i hate EZ mode guns...u.u (ehem ehem Hmg Ehem.)) Amarrian Born And State Patriot.
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1756	Posted - 2014.12.26 17:55:00 - [13] - Quote scrubs like Hellsatano who camp on roofs with ARR have NO excuse. Other than being **. With the standard rail rifle though I agree. although it's extremely poor map design and general game design to create maps with so many easily campable roofs "right so we need a ladder there, a roof there, another ladder...you know what, just put pipes and catwalks above THE ENTIRE *** OBJECTIVE. DUST VIDEOS**
Nirwanda Vaughns 1126	Posted - 2014.12.26 17:56:00 - [14] - Quote yup think of caldari as the 6'10" guy holding a midget at arms length while kicking the crap out of him. you have to play with their strengths (excessive range) yeah you have to sit on an elevated perch and shoot down at 60m to stand a chance. my preffered setup is an RR and have the SMG or MagSec (with prof 5, reload 5 ect) for CQC they're incredibly effective, its a cheap way but thats caldari and as you say, they're designed to play that way. alsways have and always should, just as the gallente are brutal in CQC yeah they have the TAC for range but its nothing compared to a RR. DUST/EVE are rock, paper, scissors, lizzard, spock. if you're having trouble with a peticular suit/setup then find the paper to disprove his spock and don't come QQ'ing on the forums that something its OP. got a caldari sentinel thats tearign you up? use a flux or laser on his ass, gallente assault tearing you up with his breach? stay teh f*k away and rail his ass from 90m away. its not rocket science kids Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner*
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8964	Posted - 2014.12.26 18:11:00 - [15] - Quote Bolt pistol is still the scariest thing in CQC. It's not the damage that's the issue but that bullet magnetism is still ******* ridiculous, you don't even have to aim to hit your target. While with the ion pistol you can't even hit a target standing still. GG CCP CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Nirwanda Vaughns 1128	Posted - 2014.12.26 18:25:00 - [16] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Bolt pistol is still the scariest thing in CQC. It's not the damage that's the issue but that bullet magnetism is still ******* ridiculous, you don't even have to aim to hit your target. While with the ion pistol you can't even hit a target standing still. GG CCP bout two weeks ago i was runnign with my bolt pistol. was on the map with C, D in the north under the buildings and A, B in south with all the towers either side. was runnign up the hill to the base of one th etowers with a red dot shoting down. i quickly turned and hipfired about 40m away and tbh not even looking in the reddots direction BOOM!! headshot lol i felt so bad i sent him 150k for his proto suit that he lost. the gun is so broken i feel dirty using it Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 411	Posted - 2014.12.26 18:27:00 - [17] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: got a caldari sentinel thats tearign you up? use a flux or laser on his ass, gallente assault tearing you up with his breach? stay teh f**k away and rail his ass from 90m away. its not rocket science kids A Laser Rifle/Scrambler Rifle kill Caldari suits faster then a freaking Warbarge, and its easier to say keep your distance when using a Rail Rifle then doing it since for some reason every map is nothing but CQC forcing anyone who wants to keep their range is quarantined on a roof. The State will always survive.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6593	Posted - 2014.12.26 18:27:00 - [18] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Bolt pistol is still the scariest thing in CQC. It's not the damage that's the issue but that bullet magnetism is still ******* ridiculous, you don't even have to aim to hit your target. While with the ion pistol you can't even hit a target standing still. GG CCP The Ion Pistol used to have the same level of aim assist. Anyways, I still believe that a level 5 proficiency shotgun on a Minmatar Assault is still the scariest thing in CQC. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6550	Posted - 2014.12.26 18:35:00 - [19] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Bolt pistol is still the scariest thing in CQC. It's not the damage that's the issue but that bullet magnetism is still ******* ridiculous, you don't even have to aim to hit your target. While with the ion pistol you can't even hit a target standing still. GG CCP Actually, i have a fit With 2 cx Damage mods (sidearm) and Kaalakiota Bolt Pistol and Core Flaylock P on a Ck.0. Fun times ensures. Amarrian Born And State Patriot.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6550	Posted - 2014.12.26 18:37:00 - [20] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Bolt pistol is still the scariest thing in CQC. It's not the damage that's the issue but that bullet magnetism is still ***** ridiculous, you don't even have to aim to hit your target. While with the ion pistol you can't even hit a target standing still. GG CCP The Ion Pistol used to have the same level of aim assist. Anyways, I still believe that a level 5 proficiency shotgun on a Minmatar Assault is still the scariest thing in CQC. Romulus Rex is the scariest thing in CQC** Im staying up in the roofs next time.... Amarrian Born And State Patriot.

sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2189	Posted - 2014.12.26 18:42:00 - [21] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Bolt pistol is still the scariest thing in CQC. It's not the damage that's the issue but that bullet magnetism is still ***** ridiculous, you don't even have to aim to hit your target. While with the ion pistol you can't even hit a target standing still. GG CCP Obvious lie is obvious. Is it just that I am more skilled with a Militia Ion Pistol than you? I can easily land shots with it and (until I specced into NKs) I had it on all of my fits (Bar the starters) "Raven's damn good with those knives**." - Maleki "The Gallente have proven unworthy of respect."
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14097	Posted - 2014.12.26 18:54:00 - [22] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Bolt pistol is still the scariest thing in CQC. It's not the damage that's the issue but that bullet magnetism is still ******* ridiculous, you don't even have to aim to hit your target. While with the ion pistol you can't even hit a target standing still. GG CCP Obvious lie is obvious. Is it just that I am more skilled with a Militia Ion Pistol than you? I can easily land shots with it and (until I specced into NKs) I had it on all of my fits (Bar the starters) You clearly don't use it as often as I do. It's my standard issue sidearm, and it definitely has wonky hit detection. Ever had a target stand still while hacking, so you charged up a shot, aimed for the head, saw the blue shield flash but it did nothing? Because that happens so often I'm not even surprised at that point. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Henrietta Unknown Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 668	Posted - 2014.12.26 18:58:00 - [23] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Bolt pistol is still the scariest thing in CQC. It's not the damage that's the issue but that bullet magnetism is still ******* ridiculous, you don't even have to aim to hit your target. While with the ion pistol you can't even hit a target standing still. GG CCP Obvious lie is obvious. Is it just that I am more skilled with a Militia Ion Pistol than you? I can easily land shots with it and (until I specced into NKs) I had it on all of my fits (Bar the starters) You clearly don't use it as often as I do. It's my standard issue sidearm, and it definitely has wonky hit detection. Ever had a target stand still while hacking, so you charged up a shot, aimed for the head, saw the blue shield flash but it did nothing? Because that happens so often I'm not even surprised at that point. I know that it has no aim assist, nor can it OHK a MinAss even with a headshot in optimal range. The BP's main weakness is tracking strafing scouts. With their THK SG's or OHK NK's. Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14097	Posted - 2014.12.26 19:10:00 - [24] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Cat Merc wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Bolt pistol is still the scariest thing in CQC. It's not the damage that's the issue but that bullet magnetism is still ******* ridiculous, you don't even have to aim to hit your target. While with the ion pistol you can't even hit a target standing still. GG CCP Obvious lie is obvious. Is it just that I am more skilled with a Militia Ion Pistol than you? I can easily land shots with it and (until I specced into NKs) I had it on all of my fits (Bar the starters) You clearly don't use it as often as I do. It's my standard issue sidearm, and it definitely has wonky hit detection. Ever had a target stand still while hacking, so you charged up a shot, aimed for the head, saw the blue shield flash but it did nothing? Because that happens so often I'm not even surprised at that point. I know that it has no aim assist, nor can it OHK a MinAss even with a headshot in optimal range. The BP's main weakness is tracking strafing scouts. With their THK SG's or OHK NK's. It has aim assist, it definitely has it. Hit detection is just wonky on it. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Mad Kras SVER True Blood 99	Posted - 2014.12.26 19:31:00 - [25] - Quote I find the ARR to be the most universal weapon alog the ScR, good both at CQC and mid-long egagements.When I'm in CQC using the ARR I always try to gain some distance and when that's not possible I finish the job with my sidearm. Playing as a logi with no sidearm painfully teaches you make every shot count with a weapon like the ARR. Skilling it up to lv.5 helps a lot. Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6556	Posted - 2014.12.26 19:48:00 - [26] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: I find the ARR to be the most universal weapon alog the ScR, good both at CQC and mid-long egagements.When I'm in CQC using the ARR I always try to gain some distance and when that's not possible I finish the job with my sidearm. Playing as a logi with no sidearm painfully teaches you make every shot count with a weapon like the ARR. Skilling it up to lv.5 helps a lot. Yeah cool. But i use the RR. I cant deal with the Iron Sights of the ARR> The only Ireon Sights i can play with is the one for the Breach AR> The ARR, is as you said, pretty universal weapon but thats EXACTLY what its problem is. At longer ranges you loose to SCR and RR. Closer to CR or AR/BAR... It does everything ok, with no true strengths.... (And the recoil is just too much) Amarrian Born And State Patriot.
Mad Kras SVER True Blood 101	Posted - 2014.12.26 19:54:00 - [27] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Mad Kras wrote: I find the ARR to be the most universal weapon alog the ScR, good both at CQC and mid-long egagements.When I'm in CQC using the ARR I always try to gain some distance and when that's not possible I finish the job with my sidearm. Playing as a logi with no sidearm painfully teaches you make every shot count with a weapon like the ARR. Skilling it up to lv.5 helps a lot. Yeah cool. But i use the RR. I cant deal with the Iron Sights of the ARR> The only Ireon Sights i can play with is the one for the Breach AR> The ARR, is as you said, pretty universal weapon but thats EXACTLY what its problem is. At longer ranges you loose to SCR and RR. Closer to CR or AR/BAR... It does everything ok, with no true strengths.... (And the recoil is just too much) We can't have everything, but i suggest you to give it another try, it's just a matter of getting used to it. Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 3520	Posted - 2014.12.26 19:56:00 - [28] - Quote Yes, one must love camping to use caldari suits. Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6556	Posted - 2014.12.26 19:58:00 - [29] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Yes, one must love camping to use caldari suits. I dont ''loooooooveeee'' camping. I just like playing differently to everybody else... : / Im sorry for wanting a quick rest from scouts while not falling into Mk.0 Assaults or Sentinels... Amarrian Born And State Patriot.
Dubber Rucky 16	Posted - 2014.12.26 21:13:00 - [30] - Quote I imagine a full squad of caldari would do pretty well.



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