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Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
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Posted - 2014.12.25 07:41:00 -
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Hmgs will be nerfed to the ground. As a heavy since chromosome I'll stay heavy but I'll probably be crying the whole time.
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C-C-P Rithu
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.25 07:43:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Hmgs will be nerfed to the ground. As a heavy since chromosome I'll stay heavy but I'll probably be crying the whole time.
A small rotation speed nerf will be done.
Can i get a tag like the DEVs?
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Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1291
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Posted - 2014.12.25 07:46:00 -
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C-C-P Rithu wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Hmgs will be nerfed to the ground. As a heavy since chromosome I'll stay heavy but I'll probably be crying the whole time. A small rotation speed nerf will be done.
Will ruin the suit. Cqc ability will be gone if this happens. I remember when a scout could out strafe a circle around me faster than i can turn at 20m. Turn speed= death
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C-C-P Rithu
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.25 07:50:00 -
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The heavy has everything now. CQC, HP, Range, Damage & a logi repper stuck to your ass, and scout buddies to scan. How can this suit not be OP? It wud have been normal if they didnt nerf the scouts. We told this, but CCP hears only cry babies -_-
Can i get a tag like the DEVs?
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
621
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Posted - 2014.12.25 07:59:00 -
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All that people need to do so that their stuff doesn't get nerfed to the ground is admit that their item might be OP and figure ways to remedy why it's OP. Or you could sit there, refuse to admit that it's too powerful, and watch it become the post nerf flaylock for a few months.
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
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Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1291
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Posted - 2014.12.25 07:59:00 -
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C-C-P Rithu wrote:The heavy has everything now. CQC, HP, Range, Damage & a logi repper stuck to your ass, and scout buddies to scan. How can this suit not be OP? It wud have been normal if they didnt nerf the scouts. We told this, but CCP hears only cry babies -_-
First off range NO after 30m hmgs cant hit **** unless you get lucky or shot at it fir awhile aka your own damn fault. Second logi repper? I run cal heavy no rep for me point invalid also since that is teamwork. Third scans? Wait seriously scans from scouts that everyone gets. And not to mention you can see a heavy on any suit with no precision enhancers aka your own damn fault. Now for damage and range part. Damage is fine since its a "heavy weapon" the only part that should be fixed is..... aim assist. One big reticle to get close to a suit and bam auto aim takes over. Hp is fine since it can't run unless you gimp the suut.
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Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1291
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:01:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:All that people need to do so that their stuff doesn't get nerfed to the ground is admit that their item might be OP and figure ways to remedy why it's OP. Or you could sit there, refuse to admit that it's too powerful, and watch it become the post nerf flaylock for a few months.
Honestly i use the arr more than the hmg so the hmg must be op by your terms then.
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
622
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:05:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:All that people need to do so that their stuff doesn't get nerfed to the ground is admit that their item might be OP and figure ways to remedy why it's OP. Or you could sit there, refuse to admit that it's too powerful, and watch it become the post nerf flaylock for a few months. Honestly i use the arr more than the hmg so the hmg must be op by your terms then.
Yes, yes, yes but why do you think people might misconstrue it as OP. Of course you're not gonna think it's OP because you use it and die with it, but that doesn't make it not OP.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1552
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:27:00 -
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C-C-P Rithu wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Hmgs will be nerfed to the ground. As a heavy since chromosome I'll stay heavy but I'll probably be crying the whole time. A small rotation speed nerf will be done.
It has been proven that variable rotation speeds just do not work.
My how I do NOT miss the days of scouts sprinting straight past heavies and shooting them in the back. |
Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1291
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:33:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:All that people need to do so that their stuff doesn't get nerfed to the ground is admit that their item might be OP and figure ways to remedy why it's OP. Or you could sit there, refuse to admit that it's too powerful, and watch it become the post nerf flaylock for a few months. Honestly i use the arr more than the hmg so the hmg must be op by your terms then. Yes, yes, yes but why do you think people might misconstrue it as OP. Of course you're not gonna think it's OP because you use it and die with it, but that doesn't make it not OP.
What. You realize I pc with hmg right? I also love to use the hmg. But as of lately i prefer my cal assault with an arr or rr.
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:40:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:
What. You realize I pc with hmg right? I also love to use the hmg. But as of lately i prefer my cal assault with an arr or rr.
That doesn't change anything, the rest of the heavy community is debating in feedback/discussion. If you want a nerf on your terms as a heavy you should head over and help with your ideas/opinions(if you have any), or don't, whatever.
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
2128
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:09:00 -
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an interestingly novel idea... bring heavy weapon parity then balance the weapons accordingly
Heavy weapon parity... When CCP Rattati.
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Mad Kras
SVER True Blood
92
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:20:00 -
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I don't think that heavys are op, they're not, but people make them so,both users and those who face them. I always see people taking on heavys in cqc face on, on the other hand a heavy that knows how to work with the team is a powerful presence on the battlefield that yet still can be countered. Long range engagements and REs are heavy's worst nightmare, people just don't think rationally, you complain about this logi following his big buddy around, then take him down, something that has rarely over 500 hp should not be a problem.Now that the moaning about OP scouts ended, and the OP tanks before it, people started to get smashed by heavys so now they are OP. You can not nerf someones mind, people don't understand that a decent player would be able to stump'em with militia gear
Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2014.12.25 12:26:00 -
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Mad Kras is right. The mind is the most diverse thing you got.
You don't need to be as predictable as AI, you can think and turn a simple engagement into a long well thought out battle too.
For example, to counter a murder taxi you can do two things:
-AV nades (strong ones... Not basic packed)
-Or, use the brand new cover the heavy brought in; the LAV!
I've gone toe to toe against a heavy with a LASER rifle (we all know below 60m its weak, but imagine at 5m) and a smg. Both militia. Used the laser to get shields out. Switched to the smg and started running circles around the car. He hops back in and starts backing up so i back up so my laser can be more effective. He jumps out and my laser is already 25 rounds in so i had good dps (but with only 35 rounds till O.H i had to worry about being vulnerable for a few seconds.). He closed the gap again and it was back to circling the car till i died.
^ the mind at work. Unpredictable, diverse, adept. We can work with what we have people. Work smart, not hard if you don't have to. I still died yes, but i made it hard and had a chance to win the engagement. |
Sequal's Back
Les Desanusseurs
30
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Posted - 2014.12.25 12:34:00 -
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HMG range is much more than 30m. I've been killed (and I'm talking about almost instapop here) by HMG from over 40-45m many times. The damages are TWICE the damages of a proto rifle at basic lvl!!! How can you say this is balance?
It's not because it's a heavy weapon that it must be so godly powerful.
It needs a damage and range nerf, and its heat build up back to pre 1.10.2.
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Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1291
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Posted - 2014.12.25 12:48:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:HMG range is much more than 30m. I've been killed (and I'm talking about almost instapop here) by HMG from over 40-45m many times. The damages are TWICE the damages of a proto rifle at basic lvl!!! How can you say this is balance?
It's not because it's a heavy weapon that it must be so godly powerful.
It needs a damage and range nerf, and its heat build up back to pre 1.10.2.
first of all those times you fied over 40m the heavy was probably shooting for quite some time crouched and ads trying to kill you.
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Mad Kras
SVER True Blood
94
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:15:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:HMG range is much more than 30m. I've been killed (and I'm talking about almost instapop here) by HMG from over 40-45m many times. The damages are TWICE the damages of a proto rifle at basic lvl!!! How can you say this is balance?
It's not because it's a heavy weapon that it must be so godly powerful.
It needs a damage and range nerf, and its heat build up back to pre 1.10.2.
HMG = High dps cqc crowd control weapon, whats the point of having a HMG with the same dps of an AR? Should we also nerf the Large Railgun Turret cuz it deals 1200 dmg while the small one just 200? Complaining about HMGs being OP in their optimal range is like complaining about sniper rifles killing you in open field from 200m away. Every weapon excells in what it was ment for plus 7/10 heavys are brainwashed brutes convinced that they're God and charge head on everything that's red.Easy Kill.
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1723
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:48:00 -
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aim assist is an option!
it doesn't need to be removed just turn the damned thing off if it's annoying you.
you don't throw your car radio out the window, you change station.
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Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1292
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:51:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:aim assist is an option!
it doesn't need to be removed just turn the damned thing off if it's annoying you.
you don't throw your car radio out the window, you change station.
What? I said remove it from hmg since it has a big ol+¬ circle for a sight
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