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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
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Posted - 2014.12.25 05:50:00 -
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Amarr: ScR - Far too powerful; It's overheat does no justify it's high DPS and ability to use this long range weapon anywhere from 4m to 120m.
Caldari: RR - It's fine, well maybe a little less recoil. It seems to go everywhere and I have the RR skill to 5 (Reduces recoil.)
Minmatar: CR/ACR - CR seems to over preform from SG range to RR range, the ACR melts everything too. Did I mention it destroys both shields and armor, despite being an armor destroyer.
Gallente: AR - Nice, good where it is. I easily turn people into swiss chesse with ARs.
"Raven's damn good with those knives." - Maleki
"The Gallente have proven unworthy of respect."
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1519
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Posted - 2014.12.25 06:05:00 -
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The thing apout opinions...
Someone's gotta tell the stupids that their ideas are bad, and I guess it's my job...
Armor has always been bad.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
1201
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Posted - 2014.12.25 06:40:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:The thing apout opinions... ^
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1441
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Posted - 2014.12.25 06:43:00 -
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Cal scout hit box not glitched enough to keep you from being slapped by the scr? |
LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.25 06:46:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Cal scout hit box not glitched enough to keep you from being slapped by the scr? Lel
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CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
296
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Posted - 2014.12.25 07:24:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Amarr: ScR - Far too powerful; It's overheat does no justify it's high DPS and ability to use this long range weapon anywhere from 4m to 120m.
Caldari: RR - It's fine, well maybe a little less recoil. It seems to go everywhere and I have the RR skill to 5 (Reduces recoil.)
Minmatar: CR/ACR - CR seems to over preform from SG range to RR range, the ACR melts everything too. Did I mention it destroys both shields and armor, despite being an armor destroyer.
Gallente: AR - Nice, good where it is. I easily turn people into swiss chesse with ARs. you don't balance rifles off the fact that you run Cal scout that would be stupid. it would be like me in my heavy suit trying to get nova knives, shotguns, and remotes nerfed because they are the counter to what suit i run.
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Clone Pilot
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:05:00 -
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you don't balance rifles off the fact that you run Cal scout that would be stupid. it would be like me in my heavy suit trying to get nova knives, shotguns, and remotes nerfed because they are the counter to what suit i run. [/quote] So like how 90% of dust works? Whine, it killed me, Nerf it. |
Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
731
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:12:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Cal scout hit box not glitched enough to keep you from being slapped by the scr?
when will you retards learn that the hitbox is fine? it's called netcode.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
731
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:13:00 -
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Also, Raven runs assault 90% of the time...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1536
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:15:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Cal scout hit box not glitched enough to keep you from being slapped by the scr? when will you retards learn that the hitbox is fine? it's called netcode.
Yes shooting things at close range and it not taking damage is perfectly fine.
Its called **** code is no excuse for **** code.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6572
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:20:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Cal scout hit box not glitched enough to keep you from being slapped by the scr? when will you retards learn that the hitbox is fine? it's called netcode. Yes shooting things at close range and it not taking damage is perfectly fine. Its called **** code is no excuse for **** code. It's an issue involving individual servers, players playing far away players and players with bad Internet.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1552
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:21:00 -
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What scout listen too while dancing in front of heavies |
Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
731
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:28:00 -
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Stop trying to derail the thread by yelling like a ****** please, it's not even about the cal scout. A thread starts out as a discussion of service rifles and gets derailed because some idiot yells "cal scout hitbox".
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
731
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:30:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Cal scout hit box not glitched enough to keep you from being slapped by the scr? when will you retards learn that the hitbox is fine? it's called netcode. Yes shooting things at close range and it not taking damage is perfectly fine. Its called **** code is no excuse for **** code.
Also, back up.
It's called transversal velocity, they can't strafe **** you if you're far enough away.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1557
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:31:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Stop trying to derail the thread by yelling like a ****** please, it's not even about the cal scout. A thread starts out as a discussion of service rifles and gets derailed because some idiot yells "cal scout hitbox".
Kind of funny how everyone went along with it. Maybe because its true?
The thread was nothing but a typical "that thing kills me" thread anyway. How can it be derailed any more?
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
731
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:53:00 -
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The thread was for people's opinions on the weapons, if you happened to read the subject. And how is "that thing kills me" and different from "I can't kill this"?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
1202
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:21:00 -
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Scouts: We can dance if we want to, we can leave your 'Ssaults behind. 'Cause your 'Ssaults don't dance, and if they don't dance,well they're no friends of mine.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1582
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:25:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:The thread was for people's opinions on the weapons, if you happened to read the subject. And how is "that thing kills me" and different from "I can't kill this"?
If you actually read the title and the thread you would see that OP did not ask for other peoples opinions.
He made a statement and left it at that, I simply chose to discuss his statement and you chose to discuss mine.
Give up while you still have a shred of dignity, you are just making yourself look stupid in tons of threads and making me look like an ass for picking on the idiot in the room.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
732
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:19:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:The thread was for people's opinions on the weapons, if you happened to read the subject. And how is "that thing kills me" and different from "I can't kill this"? If you actually read the title and the thread you would see that OP did not ask for other peoples opinions. He made a statement and left it at that, I simply chose to discuss his statement and you chose to discuss mine. Give up while you still have a shred of dignity, you are just making yourself look stupid in tons of threads and making me look like an ass for picking on the idiot in the room.
Not really, you chose to insult him, so I chose to insult you. And the person who's looking stupid would just be a matter of perception, wouldn't it? Hard to tell you're stupid if you ARE stupid.
p.s. 2 threads isn't "tons of threads".
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1584
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:24:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:The thread was for people's opinions on the weapons, if you happened to read the subject. And how is "that thing kills me" and different from "I can't kill this"? If you actually read the title and the thread you would see that OP did not ask for other peoples opinions. He made a statement and left it at that, I simply chose to discuss his statement and you chose to discuss mine. Give up while you still have a shred of dignity, you are just making yourself look stupid in tons of threads and making me look like an ass for picking on the idiot in the room. Not really, you chose to insult him, so I chose to insult you. And the person who's looking stupid would just be a matter of perception, wouldn't it? Hard to tell you're stupid if you ARE stupid. p.s. 2 threads isn't "tons of threads".
What you call an insult is still discussion on his opinion.
As far as perception goes, you have accused me of spewing horse **** when you yourself can not and will not even attempt to back up your own statements, you have flip flopped on your statements, and now all you can do is scream "no I said" so the perception is clear.
You are correct 2 is not tons of threads, guess you got me there. |
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
732
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:26:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:The thread was for people's opinions on the weapons, if you happened to read the subject. And how is "that thing kills me" and different from "I can't kill this"? If you actually read the title and the thread you would see that OP did not ask for other peoples opinions. He made a statement and left it at that, I simply chose to discuss his statement and you chose to discuss mine. Give up while you still have a shred of dignity, you are just making yourself look stupid in tons of threads and making me look like an ass for picking on the idiot in the room. Not really, you chose to insult him, so I chose to insult you. And the person who's looking stupid would just be a matter of perception, wouldn't it? Hard to tell you're stupid if you ARE stupid. p.s. 2 threads isn't "tons of threads". What you call an insult is still discussion on his opinion. As far as perception goes, you have accused me of spewing horse **** when you yourself can not and will not even attempt to back up your own statements, you have flip flopped on your statements, and now all you can do is scream "no I said" so the perception is clear. You are correct 2 is not tons of threads, guess you got me there.
I did back them up, you "flip flopped them" and all you can do is say "flip flop" because you can't read. I never changed my statement, not once.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1584
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:31:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:The thread was for people's opinions on the weapons, if you happened to read the subject. And how is "that thing kills me" and different from "I can't kill this"? If you actually read the title and the thread you would see that OP did not ask for other peoples opinions. He made a statement and left it at that, I simply chose to discuss his statement and you chose to discuss mine. Give up while you still have a shred of dignity, you are just making yourself look stupid in tons of threads and making me look like an ass for picking on the idiot in the room. Not really, you chose to insult him, so I chose to insult you. And the person who's looking stupid would just be a matter of perception, wouldn't it? Hard to tell you're stupid if you ARE stupid. p.s. 2 threads isn't "tons of threads". What you call an insult is still discussion on his opinion. As far as perception goes, you have accused me of spewing horse **** when you yourself can not and will not even attempt to back up your own statements, you have flip flopped on your statements, and now all you can do is scream "no I said" so the perception is clear. You are correct 2 is not tons of threads, guess you got me there. I did back them up, you "flip flopped them" and all you can do is say "flip flop" because you can't read. I never changed my statement, not once.
You did not and can not back up your statement. As I said before there is far more evidence disproving what you say than there is proving what you say. Obviously you are having trouble with basic logic so I can not say that I am surprised by your inability to comprehend whether something is broken or not.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
732
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:35:00 -
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My statement: Caldari hitbox is fine.
Your statement: No, hit detection is bad.
My statement: hitbox =/= hit detection
Your statement: flip flop, you can't back up your statement, you're dumb, let me make a thread about it.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1584
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:37:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:My statement: Caldari hitbox is fine.
Your statement: No, hit detection is bad.
My statement: hitbox =/= hit detection
Your statement: flip flop, you can't back up your statement, you're dumb, let me make a thread about it.
Yet another "oh i said"
You have a good one man, my back hurts from stooping down to your level.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
733
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:42:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:My statement: Caldari hitbox is fine.
Your statement: No, hit detection is bad.
My statement: hitbox =/= hit detection
Your statement: flip flop, you can't back up your statement, you're dumb, let me make a thread about it. Yet another "oh i said" You have a good one man, my back hurts from stooping down to your level.
Yeah, nice job backing up your point. I put it in the simplest format I could and you're still too stupid to see it. That or you're too arrogant to admit that you're wrong.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
733
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:49:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:[quote=Stupid Blueberry]My statement: Caldari hitbox is fine.
Your statement: No, hit detection is bad.
My statement: hitbox =/= hit detection
Your statement: flip flop, you can't back up your statement, you're dumb, let me make a thread about it. Yet another "oh i said" You have a good one man, my back hurts from stooping down to your level.
Yeah, nice job backing up your statement (that I didn't back up my statement). You tell me to back up my statement, so I put it in the simplest format I could and you say "baw you're jut sayin what ya said before". You're too stupid to see it, or you're more likely to arrogant to admit that you're wrong now. All of this because you just had to talk **** to raven about a suit that he barely runs, and when he does, it's with knova knives and rr.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
663
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:57:00 -
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Agee on some things
Cr need a sheild nerf And the scrambler need tweaking As it is now there is no point using the assult scrambler Sence the other one out preform it at close range
Ar is just perfect ( Maybee the tac need a range buf but that's it if anything )
War never changes
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
734
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Posted - 2014.12.25 11:01:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Agee on some things
Cr need a sheild nerf And the scrambler need tweaking As it is now there is no point using the assult scrambler Sence the other one out preform it at close range
Ar is just perfect ( Maybee the tac need a range buf but that's it if anything )
I think another thing to do with the scr/ascr disparity is the muzzle flash and ads kick from the assault. It pretty much blinds you while bobbing around like the arr.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Jack the Rlpper
Extreme Vengance
24
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Posted - 2014.12.25 11:05:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:The thread was for people's opinions on the weapons, if you happened to read the subject. And how is "that thing kills me" and different from "I can't kill this"? If you actually read the title and the thread you would see that OP did not ask for other peoples opinions. He made a statement and left it at that, I simply chose to discuss his statement and you chose to discuss mine. Give up while you still have a shred of dignity, you are just making yourself look stupid in tons of threads and making me look like an ass for picking on the idiot in the room. Actually now your looking stupid bud op's post topic is Opinions on the main battle weapon of each race. |
Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
206
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Posted - 2014.12.25 12:46:00 -
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Hey no one cares about which of you two look stupid (btw I would say both) go discuss that somewhere else.
Now about the topic : - Scrambler rifle : to me it has always be OP, the heat mechanic doesn't justify such a high DPS and accuracy. It's the only gun that works at any range
- Rail rifle : OP for ages, now it's fine. I don't think reducing the base kick is a good idea, however I'm for a cal assault bonus reducing kick
- Plasma rifles : excellent guns, probably because they have the best hit detection in the game. However devs should stop buffing them, they're at the limit of OPness.
- Combat rifle : fine, I disagree strongly with the OP saying it melts both shields and armour, it's crap against shield now (which is logical as it wrecks armour). It has some hit detction problems against shield when the target is strafing, but it's overall well balanced.
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
206
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Posted - 2014.12.25 12:50:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Agee on some things
Cr need a sheild nerf And the scrambler need tweaking As it is now there is no point using the assult scrambler Sence the other one out preform it at close range
Ar is just perfect ( Maybee the tac need a range buf but that's it if anything )
The CR has already a 15% penalty, you can't put a stronger penalty against shield than the bonus it gets against armour And yes ASCR is crap compared to the normal version |
Nirwanda Vaughns
1120
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Posted - 2014.12.25 14:39:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Amarr: ScR - Far too powerful; It's overheat does no justify it's high DPS and ability to use this long range weapon anywhere from 4m to 120m.
Caldari: RR - It's fine, well maybe a little less recoil. It seems to go everywhere and I have the RR skill to 5 (Reduces recoil.)
Minmatar: CR/ACR - CR seems to over preform from SG range to RR range, the ACR melts everything too. Did I mention it destroys both shields and armor, despite being an armor destroyer.
Gallente: AR - Nice, good where it is. I easily turn people into swiss chesse with ARs.
ScR - both versions are pretty balanced, ScR are tailored to be used on the Assault to ease the heat build up, if you use it on other suits then suffer the downside. Prefer the assault variant on Commando LR - Far too powerful vs Armour. With the damage multiplier by the time its gone through shields its negated the negative damage to armour and slices through several heavies at a time.
RR - Scoped kick is a little too much, could be solved by changing Caldari assault bonus to a reduction to scoped dispertion and kick to tailor it to be racially used ARR - Really balanced now although i still hate it.
CR - Don't use them much but with rapid fire controllers they can be prety devestating. ACR - One my favorite guns int he game atm. the dispertion changes a couple month back really effected them though, especially with the change to damage profile. if the disperion was returned to normal they'd be more balanced. the Republic ACR with the increased accuracy is probably one of, if not the best weapon in game now.
BAR - more balanced now than it was. the clip reduction was perhaps a bit much but the range did really need bringing down. i can still chew through reddots with my gal assault and BAR combo. AR - prefer the ACR now over the AR although i still slap on my Exile for cheap suits and its balanced for its role. Burst - Same as CR tbh, great all rounder but devestating if used with gall assault and rapid fire. TAC - Good alternative to the ScR, not a fan of single shot DMR style weapons but its nicely balanced now.
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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abdullah muzaffar
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
123
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Posted - 2014.12.25 14:58:00 -
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CCP forgot to balance weapons around alpha and breach autoaim. The only reason Acrs kill is because of AA, take that away and you have one very UP weapon.
Currently OP weapons: Lazor(it needed no buff,took away the skill) 1000000x more op with am salt. Scr(Pop in and out, with long, med and close range viability, the ability to alpha suits) Breach Scp(Aa HS bonus) Arr(Calmando with dmg mods is unkillable, was in a pubstomp.) And soon to be fotm BuAr, with lvl 4 it does better than my prof.3 cr on min ass/commando. Tac Ar with turbo. Boundless/Six kin on strafe suits. HMG needs spool up. Slight unnerfing of heat and maybe a bit range nerf. RR, range nerf, got killed by one 99 m away. |
Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1745
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Posted - 2014.12.25 15:00:00 -
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ITT: Shield users whine about how they die to anti shield weapons.
Likes for likes also cake.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
749
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Posted - 2014.12.25 15:07:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Amarr: ScR - Far too powerful; It's overheat does no justify it's high DPS and ability to use this long range weapon anywhere from 4m to 120m.
Caldari: RR - It's fine, well maybe a little less recoil. It seems to go everywhere and I have the RR skill to 5 (Reduces recoil.)
Minmatar: CR/ACR - CR seems to over preform from SG range to RR range, the ACR melts everything too. Did I mention it destroys both shields and armor, despite being an armor destroyer.
Gallente: AR - Nice, good where it is. I easily turn people into swiss chesse with ARs. ScR - both versions are pretty balanced, ScR are tailored to be used on the Assault to ease the heat build up, if you use it on other suits then suffer the downside. Prefer the assault variant on Commando LR - Far too powerful vs Armour. With the damage multiplier by the time its gone through shields its negated the negative damage to armour and slices through several heavies at a time.RR - Scoped kick is a little too much, could be solved by changing Caldari assault bonus to a reduction to scoped dispertion and kick to tailor it to be racially used ARR - Really balanced now although i still hate it. CR - Don't use them much but with rapid fire controllers they can be prety devestating. ACR - One my favorite guns int he game atm. the dispertion changes a couple month back really effected them though, especially with the change to damage profile. if the disperion was returned to normal they'd be more balanced. the Republic ACR with the increased accuracy is probably one of, if not the best weapon in game now. BAR - more balanced now than it was. the clip reduction was perhaps a bit much but the range did really need bringing down. i can still chew through reddots with my gal assault and BAR combo. AR - prefer the ACR now over the AR although i still slap on my Exile for cheap suits and its balanced for its role. Burst - Same as CR tbh, great all rounder but devestating if used with gall assault and rapid fire. TAC - Good alternative to the ScR, not a fan of single shot DMR style weapons but its nicely balanced now.
Back to the good 'ole chromosome LR.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
749
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Posted - 2014.12.25 15:09:00 -
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abdullah muzaffar wrote:CCP forgot to balance weapons around alpha and breach autoaim. The only reason Acrs kill is because of AA, take that away and you have one very UP weapon.
Currently OP weapons: Lazor(it needed no buff,took away the skill) 1000000x more op with am salt. Scr(Pop in and out, with long, med and close range viability, the ability to alpha suits) Breach Scp(Aa HS bonus) Arr(Calmando with dmg mods is unkillable, was in a pubstomp.) And soon to be fotm BuAr, with lvl 4 it does better than my prof.3 cr on min ass/commando. Tac Ar with turbo. Boundless/Six kin on strafe suits. HMG needs spool up. Slight unnerfing of heat and maybe a bit range nerf. RR, range nerf, got killed by one 99 m away.
Oh no, I was killed by a weapon at it's intended range, nerf it again!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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