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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.24 02:43:00 -
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Gallante Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Caldari Assaults running Burst Assault Rifles. Minmatar Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Amarr Assaults running around with Boundless Combat Rifles and Six Kins. Minmatar Scouts with shotguns instead of Nova Knives Caldari Scouts running around with Viziams, 453 shields and 300 armor Gallante Scouts with Nova Knives instead of shotguns Amarr Scouts with Combat Rifles Amarr/Caldari/Gallante/Minmatar Heavies because wtf 900 DPS HMGs Gunnlogis with 4000 armor Madrugars with Large Missiles Militia tanks with proto turrets Logistics without Nanohives Logistics without repair tools but they have injectors Logistics with repair tools but no injectors Militia suits with proto weapons EZ mode swarms
Edit: Logistics players that place uplinks in the pits, burn in hell, please. Just a list of sh*t that makes me shake my head every time I see this.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
6584
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Posted - 2014.12.24 02:47:00 -
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Creativity is hard to understand for the simple minded.
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1359
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Posted - 2014.12.24 02:49:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Creativity is hard to understand to the simple minded.
Creativity or Stupidity? Because there is nothing creative about speccing into a Amarr Assault to use a Combat rifle.
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Vicious Minotaur
1556
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Posted - 2014.12.24 02:59:00 -
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I saw a homeless dude pissing in a ditch, once.
It really... pissed me off. Just like those urine-colored Amarr suits (learn to make gold, you CCP artists!)
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
6584
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Posted - 2014.12.24 03:00:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Creativity is hard to understand to the simple minded. Creativity or Stupidity? Because there is nothing creative about speccing into a Amarr Assault to use a Combat rifle. See like I said hard to understand to the simple minded but let me clear something up.
No one says "Hey I got a Combat rifle let me spec into Amarr assault so i can actually use it"
People say " I got Amarr assault and a Combat rifle, combat rifle has low cpu and pg requirements, so if i use it i will have more room to upgrade modules or equipment.
Or "Enemy team is using a lot of armor tanked suits but I only have Amarr assault let me throw a Combat rifle on it so I can take out these armor tankers a bit easier."
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
1175
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Posted - 2014.12.24 03:04:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Creativity is hard to understand to the simple minded. Creativity or Stupidity? Because there is nothing creative about speccing into a Amarr Assault to use a Combat rifle. See like I said hard to understand to the simple minded but let me clear something up. No one says "Hey I got a Combat rifle let me spec into Amarr assault so i can actually use it" People say " I got Amarr assault and a Combat rifle, combat rifle has low cpu and pg requirements, so if i use it i will have more room to upgrade modules or equipment. Or "Enemy team is using a lot of armor tanked suits but I only have Amarr assault let me throw a Combat rifle on it so I can take out these armor tankers a bit easier." ^
They're still heathens, but whatever, aren't we all?
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2014.12.24 03:25:00 -
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I just call those fits Amartar
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.12.24 03:30:00 -
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Assaults and commandos are the only specializations that get bonuses to their race's weapons (though the Gallente and Caldari assaults don't matter much), that means it is not dumb of anyone to fit a scout with another race's weapons. Until Gallente and Caldari assaults get useful bonuses like the Amarr and Minmatar assaults, there really isn't much reason to stick to your racial weapons.
A Gallente scout has no bonus to shotguns, so there is no real reason it would be a better choice over some other weapon the user prefers. Also, not using knives instead of a shotgun on a Gallente scout frees up your light weapon slot for a higher range weapon. I don't see a problem with a Amarr scout with a CR either, saves fitting space for perhaps important EWAR stuff; SCRs take up a lot of fitting resources.
Standard tanks don't have bonuses towards any particular turrets.
The point is we're mercenaries, not national soldiers, so unless bonuses are involved, there is no reason to try to make racially consistent fits.
While the Minmatar scout gets a bonus to knives, maybe the user only wanted it for the hack bonus, or perhaps the user is using both shotgun and knives since they occupy different slots (though admittedly that would be stupid).
As for logis, not every logi has the spare equipment slots to make sure you have nanohives. When I use my Amarr logi for example, I only have 2-3 slots instead of 3-4 like other logis, and I'm usually more concerned with putting down uplinks for my team. Not every logi shares the same role, so to think they should all be serving you nanohives is a bit odd to me. No need for repair tool when your injector is prototype. While I understand why you want injector carriers to carry repair tools to repair you after reviving you, I don't see you think repair tool carriers should all have injectors also.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1436
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Posted - 2014.12.24 03:30:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Gallante Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Caldari Assaults running Burst Assault Rifles. Minmatar Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Amarr Assaults running around with Boundless Combat Rifles and Six Kins. Minmatar Scouts with shotguns instead of Nova Knives Caldari Scouts running around with Viziams, 453 shields and 300 armor Gallante Scouts with Nova Knives instead of shotguns Amarr Scouts with Combat Rifles Amarr/Caldari/Gallante/Minmatar Heavies because wtf 900 DPS HMGs Gunnlogis with 4000 armor Madrugars with Large Missiles Militia tanks with proto turrets Logistics without Nanohives Logistics without repair tools but they have injectors Logistics with repair tools but no injectors Militia suits with proto weapons EZ mode swarms
Edit: Logistics players that place uplinks in the pits, burn in hell, please. Just a list of sh*t that makes me shake my head every time I see this. Yea i hate these scrubs I hate Cal Scouts EZ mode stuff like Cal Scout, swarms, rail rifles wrong weapon on wrong suit( Gal Assault with Six Kin ACR like wtf people use da proper weapon)
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1499
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Posted - 2014.12.24 03:32:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Creativity is hard to understand for the simple minded.
I got a cheap ass Amarr scout. It takes a bit of creativity to make it wrk.
Crush them
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2743
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Posted - 2014.12.24 03:35:00 -
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i refuse to fit an injector on my medic suit with this stupid needle change!
If CCP Likes numbers? Let their numbers show it was a stupid ass move.
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SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
737
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Posted - 2014.12.24 04:02:00 -
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There may be a way to attempt to max the stats you have. That doesn't mean people have to do that.
Maybe they just want to burn through some extra assets. Maybe they just like that gun. It doesn't matter why. Fitting diversity is a major part of this game.
What pisses me off are all the people upset that other people do not fit the way they want people to fit things, and demand that CCP force people to fit suits in a limited way.
I like seeing Sentinels using Assault Rifles. I like seeing Lgi's using Cloaks. I like seeing people being free to do as they wish. |
CHET CHEWS
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
12
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Posted - 2014.12.24 04:16:00 -
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Well people on dust have a weird way on seing things like if you have more armor you might think that you will win that gun fight or scouts not being dampened enough that you can see them in your assault suit XD but its just a mentallity
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Union118
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
121
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Posted - 2014.12.24 04:19:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Creativity is hard to understand for the simple minded. God forbid I use a heavy with a HMG lol
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.12.24 04:21:00 -
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Humans are really awesome (sometimes) but also really stupids, take it or leave it.
I see ur point if saying that those are things that **** u.... But that's up to everyone, this kind of game let's u be however u want, armor tanking caldarians, badly shield tanking Gallentians, using or not using a certain thing, that is the way this kind of games are pretty funny in every aspect, it is because u can choose whatever u want in the way that u want, that's our reason to have fun, I have seen caldari ships (in Eve of course) Using lasers, vexors with autocannons etc etc and that's in a game that is by far better thought than what dust is right now.
When ccp reales all weapons all tanks all turrets etc.. They can focus this game into a level that maybe u can see minmatars using just minmatar stuff and that with every race in the game, of course that's something that I would specialise when the majority of its weapons are out. That would be awesome, but once again, if u played MAG, many players wanted ti use all the pmcs weapons, here in DUST, ccp can make it completely unique in its way to make something called "specialized".
Personally I don't really care what they are using right now because there are many things that indeed need a change, but everything will come into their correct time, ( or maybe it won't) nevertheless we can have fun with what we have :)
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Regnier Feros
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
190
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Posted - 2014.12.24 04:43:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:There may be a way to attempt to max the stats you have. That doesn't mean people have to do that.
Maybe they just want to burn through some extra assets. Maybe they just like that gun. It doesn't matter why. Fitting diversity is a major part of this game.
What pisses me off are all the people upset that other people do not fit the way they want people to fit things, and demand that CCP force people to fit suits in a limited way.
I like seeing Sentinels using Assault Rifles. I like seeing Lgi's using Cloaks. I like seeing people being free to do as they wish. Sentinels with rifles disturbs me deeply.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.12.24 04:56:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Creativity is hard to understand to the simple minded. Creativity or Stupidity? Because there is nothing creative about speccing into a Amarr Assault to use a Combat rifle.
No, it is called never being able to balance the game because "creativity" causes some kind of unintentional FOTM exploit with a combination the devs did not consider or couldn't prevent by trying to balance otherwise.
Weapons should by themselves be close to crap. You either fit it with a racial role suit that makes it useful or fit a basic suit and a module that could improve the general efficiency of weapons. That way, you make a trade off, but can still be creative.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2718
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Posted - 2014.12.24 05:00:00 -
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I refuse to acknowledge Madrugars with missiles as tanks.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2745
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Posted - 2014.12.24 07:17:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Creativity is hard to understand to the simple minded. Creativity or Stupidity? Because there is nothing creative about speccing into a Amarr Assault to use a Combat rifle. No, it is called never being able to balance the game because "creativity" causes some kind of unintentional FOTM exploit with a combination the devs did not consider or couldn't prevent by trying to balance otherwise. Weapons should by themselves be close to crap. You either fit it with a racial role suit that makes it useful or fit a basic suit and a module that could improve the general efficiency of weapons. That way, you make a trade off, but can still be creative.
Show me this magical FOTM that can't be countered?
Only thing CCP Can't balance in the fitting window is lazyness and ignorance.
They can however teach people better in battle academy. Have better statistics and be more clear on the UI Displaying the data to the positives and negatives of the different items in the fitting window.
Or have better tutorials in place to teach players.
This is the creativity that is being discussed. CCP Expects players to be creative and figure out counters to the suit that just beat them last Match.
I Did this. Viktor did this.. Anyone that you learn to respect playing a pub does this..
They regroup and come back with something different.. Instead of continuing to run at a brick wall endlessly with the same fitting then blaming everyone else when it doesn't work.
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2014.12.24 19:59:00 -
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why don't you have blueberries that are afk'ers or blueberries whakin it it the corner on your list? hell at least the people you shouted out are trying to help the team and they will learn. People afraid to fight or help should be your #1 imo |
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Kaughst
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
801
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Posted - 2014.12.24 20:34:00 -
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Bring back Proto tanks with 11,000 hp.
Don't think about that, think about all the money.
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1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC Learning Alliance
130
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Posted - 2014.12.24 20:38:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
6520
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Posted - 2014.12.24 21:12:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Dukey Hate.
''Caldari Scouts running around with Viziams, 453 shields and 300 armor''
Im trying this. XD
I like using the weapon which the suit is intended or that is Race specific. I run All of my Amarr stuff with SCR rifles. I run (now) all of my Cal suits with RR, bar the sidearm, which is always a Bolt Pistol or a Flay lock pistol.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1158
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Posted - 2014.12.24 23:43:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote: Logistics without repair tools but they have injectors
I will try not to pick you up if I see it's you so you can't make use of my Allotek hives
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
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Lloyd Orfay
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
301
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Posted - 2014.12.25 00:10:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Gallante Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Caldari Assaults running Burst Assault Rifles. Minmatar Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Amarr Assaults running around with Boundless Combat Rifles and Six Kins. Minmatar Scouts with shotguns instead of Nova Knives Caldari Scouts running around with Viziams, 453 shields and 300 armor Gallante Scouts with Nova Knives instead of shotguns Amarr Scouts with Combat Rifles Amarr/Caldari/Gallante/Minmatar Heavies because wtf 900 DPS HMGs Gunnlogis with 4000 armor Madrugars with Large Missiles Militia tanks with proto turrets Logistics without Nanohives Logistics without repair tools but they have injectors Logistics with repair tools but no injectors Militia suits with proto weapons EZ mode swarms
Edit: Logistics players that place uplinks in the pits, burn in hell, please. Just a list of sh*t that makes me shake my head every time I see this.
What pisses me off: People complaining about people wanting versatility and trying to cover up the many flaws this game gives their gameplay.
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
2132
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Posted - 2014.12.25 00:12:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Gallante Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Caldari Assaults running Burst Assault Rifles. Minmatar Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Amarr Assaults running around with Boundless Combat Rifles and Six Kins. Minmatar Scouts with shotguns instead of Nova Knives Caldari Scouts running around with Viziams, 453 shields and 300 armor Gallante Scouts with Nova Knives instead of shotguns Amarr Scouts with Combat Rifles Amarr/Caldari/Gallante/Minmatar Heavies because wtf 900 DPS HMGs Gunnlogis with 4000 armor Madrugars with Large Missiles Militia tanks with proto turrets Logistics without Nanohives Logistics without repair tools but they have injectors Logistics with repair tools but no injectors Militia suits with proto weapons EZ mode swarms
Edit: Logistics players that place uplinks in the pits, burn in hell, please. Just a list of sh*t that makes me shake my head every time I see this. Yea i hate these scrubs I hate Cal Scouts EZ mode stuff like Cal Scout, swarms, rail rifles wrong weapon on wrong suit( Gal Assault with Six Kin ACR like wtf people use da proper weapon) Because having 210 HP is so EZ mode, huh? You have problems shooting Calscouts? I don't, I have problems with Amarr and Gallente scouts. (Takes no damage from 2 NK slashes and just instamelee. Also I once had a full health heavy get kill by 4k damage from a Amarr scout melee. My suit doesn't have that much. )
"Raven's damn good with those knives." - Maleki
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
489
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Posted - 2014.12.25 02:01:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:People afraid to fight or help should be your #1 imo
Quoted for truth. Hate them hoes that pick on bad players but run from good players.
Stay balanced. Be you. Always.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1630
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Posted - 2014.12.25 03:37:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:i refuse to fit an injector on my medic suit with this stupid needle change!
If CCP Likes numbers? Let their numbers show it was a stupid ass move.
Stop fitting needles.
Needles should be -1 death. And no choice about being picked up when you die... anyone can pick you up. The clone belongs to the team and the victory chance, not the individual mercenary.
-1 for this post for couple of reasons.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1630
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Posted - 2014.12.25 03:39:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:
No, it is called never being able to balance the game because "creativity" causes some kind of unintentional FOTM exploit with a combination the devs did not consider or couldn't prevent by trying to balance otherwise.
Weapons should by themselves be close to crap. You either fit it with a racial role suit that makes it useful or fit a basic suit and a module that could improve the general efficiency of weapons. That way, you make a trade off, but can still be creative.
This suggested design philosohy is the road we do NOT want to go.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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postapo wastelander
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
858
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Posted - 2014.12.25 03:40:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Gallante Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Caldari Assaults running Burst Assault Rifles. Minmatar Assaults running Ishukone Assault Rail Rifles. Amarr Assaults running around with Boundless Combat Rifles and Six Kins. Minmatar Scouts with shotguns instead of Nova Knives Caldari Scouts running around with Viziams, 453 shields and 300 armor Gallante Scouts with Nova Knives instead of shotguns Amarr Scouts with Combat Rifles Amarr/Caldari/Gallante/Minmatar Heavies because wtf 900 DPS HMGs Gunnlogis with 4000 armor Madrugars with Large Missiles Militia tanks with proto turrets Logistics without Nanohives Logistics without repair tools but they have injectors Logistics with repair tools but no injectors Militia suits with proto weapons EZ mode swarms
Edit: Logistics players that place uplinks in the pits, burn in hell, please. Just a list of sh*t that makes me shake my head every time I see this.
And im little angry from people like you, too much of ..you know what nevermind, my calm is more important than my responce ;) Happy Xmass anyway
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