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Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 17	Posted - 2014.12.23 12:28:00 - [1] - Quote While I was doing some fits on protofits, I noticed that the advantages of the Gal assault over the Amarr assault almost don't exist. I personally dont see the point of the Gal assault. Assuming maxed core skills, it has a really useless bonus, less PG (5), less armor (~50), same rep, and just 0.25m/s of running speed which isn't a real good point as it has way less stamina and stamina regen than the Amarr assault suit. On the other hand, Amarr assault has an amazing bonus on its ScR, and it can do everything that gal assaut does better. Why would people pick the Gallente one? I'd like to have your thoughts about this guys ^^
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20471	Posted - 2014.12.23 12:37:00 - [2] - Quote Because it is Gallente. Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8942	Posted - 2014.12.23 12:38:00 - [3] - Quote The Gallente Assault has more sex appeal. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 17	Posted - 2014.12.23 13:01:00 - [4] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: The Gallente Assault has more sex appeal. Amarr skirts drive me crazy.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4852	Posted - 2014.12.23 13:10:00 - [5] - Quote You'd be surprised what .25 of run speed can do. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
VikingKong iBUN T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 326	Posted - 2014.12.23 13:26:00 - [6] - Quote Because they like Assault Rifles?
tander09 Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 218	Posted - 2014.12.23 13:28:00 - [7] - Quote Atleast the gallente assaults can jump over fences while tanking armor plates! "The feud shall not be forgotten. But those who forget, never witnessed the true horror." -Nexle Skimfuse
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 608	Posted - 2014.12.23 13:39:00 - [8] - Quote If someone likes [somehow] gallente, then he will pick gallente suits. If someone likes amarr he will pick amarr suits. You get it? Bonuses are in favor of amarr, but it doesn't matter [especialy if we're talking about assaults]. Ps. If someone likes AR, he will pick gal over other suits. If someone like scramblers, he will pick amarr suits. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Cavani1EE7 Murphys-Law 671	Posted - 2014.12.23 14:49:00 - [9] - Quote Because they can put double modded ARRs while still having 800+ hp and 20hp/s. 10100111001 Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1667	Posted - 2014.12.23 14:55:00 - [10] - Quote amarr assault is meant to fit ScR which has much higher fitting requirements thus it has more fitting room (OBVIOUSLY) beside that, the gallente assault bonus is not useless. try out the Tac AR with and without the bonus and then tell me it is useless again beside that, gallente can jump over fences when armor tanked.

Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5214	Posted - 2014.12.23 15:21:00 - [11] - Quote Because it has in-built freedom in it.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4268	Posted - 2014.12.23 16:55:00 - [12] - Quote The trade offs aren't really great, but the Gallente suit isn't really great(the lack of stamina really conflicts with the playstyle of the suit) They are honestly too similar. I'd like for the Gallente suit to lose a small amount of base armour to gain a small amount of reps(maybe 10-20 for 1-2 reps) so they can really feel like different suits. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries 694	Posted - 2014.12.23 17:01:00 - [13] - Quote strafe speed and slimmer hitbox..
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 632	Posted - 2014.12.23 17:14:00 - [14] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: amarr assault is meant to fit ScR which has much higher fitting requirements thus it has more fitting room (OBVIOUSLY) beside that, the gallente assault bonus is not useless. try out the Tac AR with and without the bonus and then tell me it is useless again beside that, gallente can jump over fences when armor tanked. The bonus is usless. It only affects hip fire, I generally aim down my sights unless they are right near me. The only gallente weapon it really helps is the ion pistol, and even that isn't much.
Nirwanda Vaughns 1096	Posted - 2014.12.23 17:23:00 - [15] - Quote On paper it may not be much but in use they have their pros and cons. proto gal assault skills and lv5 in all your AR skills and slap a breach on it and its a great CQC. the higher built in rep also gives great hit and run capabilities too. the amarr assault always seems too sluggish for me, i do have a prtoto suit fit that i got off here with just 5 x complex reactive plates and i must admit its a fun as hell suit to run. its all about your play style and what wepaons you prefer as to what players choose. personally i liek the balance the gallente has between the amarrs HP and the minmatars speed plus the higher passive reps Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1273	Posted - 2014.12.23 17:42:00 - [16] - Quote The speed disparity actually becomes quite apparent when kitting out your fit with kin cats or plates, especially kin cats though. It's actually almost viable to fit out a shotgun assault with ferrroscales, 2 kin cats, and a repper. For AR users I'd recommend either 2 advanced plates with 3 reppers, or 3 ferroscales and 2 reppers. I find success with both. All fits get 2 damage mods (light and sidearm or two light) and a proto precision enhancer, (yes, it's worth it). Had a really good 54-1 domination game last night with my Duvolle AR and CreoDron Ion Pistol on the ferroscale fit. The Amarr assault however, even when speed fit doesn't hold up as well overall. It's slower to get in range and has a more easily hit frame to deal with. In the end, the Gallente are excellent for people who want a very good balance of tank, gank, and speed all in one fit. Amarr gets you gank and tank, but I personally don't like relying on having 800+ armor to get the job done. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4853	Posted - 2014.12.23 17:47:00 - [17] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: The speed disparity actually becomes quite apparent when kitting out your fit with kin cats or plates, especially kin cats though. It's actually almost viable to fit out a shotgun assault with ferrroscales, 2 kin cats, and a repper. For AR users I'd recommend either 2 advanced plates with 3 reppers, or 3 ferroscales and 2 reppers. I find success with both. All fits get 2 damage mods (light and sidearm or two light) and a proto precision enhancer, (yes, it's worth it). Had a really good 54-1 domination game last night with my Duvolle AR and CreoDron Ion Pistol on the ferroscale fit. The Amarr assault however, even when speed fit doesn't hold up as well overall. It's slower to get in range and has a more easily hit frame to deal with. In the end, the Gallente are excellent for people who want a very good balance of tank, gank, and speed all in one fit. Amarr gets you gank and tank, but I personally don't like relying on having 800+ armor to get the job done. TBH I recently just switched over to 2 ferroscales, a reactive, and 2 reps all complex. Gets you to a nice 600+ armor and 23 reps. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
BIoody 619 D3ATH C4RD 27	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:00:00 - [18] - Quote Gallente : 1 Armor Master 2 Holds the Assault Rifles 3 Run n Gun style Amarr: 1 Armor Master 2 Holds Scramble and Laser Rifle 3 Cover n shoot style Notice the different here there both Armor Master Gellente Region = Freedom Fighters {STD} Breach Assault + Red Dot = +50 SkillPoints Over 9,999,999,999
BIoody 619 D3ATH C4RD 27	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:02:00 - [19] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: amarr assault is meant to fit ScR which has much higher fitting requirements thus it has more fitting room (OBVIOUSLY) beside that, the gallente assault bonus is not useless. try out the Tac AR with and without the bonus and then tell me it is useless again beside that, gallente can jump over fences when armor tanked. oh I been there bro that TAC Ar IM loving it now Gellente Region = Freedom Fighters {STD} Breach Assault + Red Dot = +50 SkillPoints Over 9,999,999,999
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1274	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:10:00 - [20] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: TBH I recently just switched over to 2 ferroscales, a reactive, and 2 reps all complex. Gets you to a nice 600+ armor and 23 reps. I never much cared for reactives on armor suits. I just don't think they're as efficient as their alternatives to putting on actual plates and reppers. If I'm going to deal with a speed penalty, I might as well just put on an actual plate and an actual repper and be nearly twice as effective or more on both fronts. 2 reactives = 122 armor and 6 reps w/ 2% penalty 1 adv plate and 1 proto repper = 121 armor and 9.38 reps w/ 4% penalty The extra reps are well worth the 2% speed penalty I've found. However I find they are invaluable for Caldari suits on the advanced and proto teir. Just one increases the survivability of those things by a mile. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny

Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 611	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:14:00 - [21] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: The speed disparity actually becomes quite apparent when kitting out your fit with kin cats or plates, especially kin cats though. It's actually almost viable to fit out a shotgun assault with ferrroscales, 2 kin cats, and a repper. For AR users I'd recommend either 2 advanced plates with 3 reppers, or 3 ferroscales and 2 reppers. I find success with both. All fits get 2 damage mods (light and sidearm or two light) and a proto precision enhancer, (yes, it's worth it). Had a really good 54-1 domination game last night with my Duvolle AR and CreoDron Ion Pistol on the ferroscale fit... The Amarr assault however, even when speed fit doesn't hold up as well overall. It's slower to get in range and has a more easily hit frame to deal with. In the end, the Gallente are excellent for people who want a very good balance of tank, gank, and speed all in one fit. Amarr gets you gank and tank, but I personally don't like relying on having 800+ armor to get the job done. The Only difference between both suits are their bonuses. They have almost exact same ehp,rep,fitting room. Both have 3/5 slot layout. Amarr have better stamina stats, gal slight [very small] higher speed. You cann't say that one is better at tanking/reeping/ganking when they have almost same stats. Ps. Amarr have higher range [ScR > AR] and only sth like 0.2m/s lower speed Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 764	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:15:00 - [22] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: While I was doing some fits on protofits, I noticed that the advantages of the Gal assault over the Amarr assault almost don't exist. I personally dont see the point of the Gal assault. Assuming maxed core skills, it has a really useless bonus, less PG (5), less armor (~50), same rep, and just 0.25m/s of running speed which isn't a real good point as it has way less stamina and stamina regen than the Amarr assault suit. On the other hand, Amarr assault has an amazing bonus on its ScR, and it can do everything that gal assaut does better. Why would people pick the Gallente one? I'd like to have your thoughts about this guys ^^ Well that's because the Amarr used to be the Dual tank power houses, but since shields have been inferior for over a year now the amarrian players begged rattatai to make them armor tanks like the gallente, using Eve as a justification. We lost diversity but whatever... I guess as long as our dropsuits act like spaceships... wait what?
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 25	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:20:00 - [23] - Quote So the only reason why the gallente could be better is with a Tac AR.. Well. About jumping over fences, if you fit 3 ferro/2rep on both proto gal and amarr with dmg mods, you will succeed in both suits! But amarr will have more hp/stamina. You guys speak as if we couldn't fit an AR on the amarr assault. But when I do I finally have a better suit with the Amarr + AR than with the Gal + AR. And from what I've seen in videos, except with the Tac, the bonus is absolutely useless^^
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4856	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:26:00 - [24] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: While I was doing some fits on protofits, I noticed that the advantages of the Gal assault over the Amarr assault almost don't exist. I personally dont see the point of the Gal assault. Assuming maxed core skills, it has a really useless bonus, less PG (5), less armor (~50), same rep, and just 0.25m/s of running speed which isn't a real good point as it has way less stamina and stamina regen than the Amarr assault suit. On the other hand, Amarr assault has an amazing bonus on its ScR, and it can do everything that gal assaut does better. Why would people pick the Gallente one? I'd like to have your thoughts about this guys ^^ Well that's because the Amarr used to be the Dual tank power houses, but since shields have been inferior for over a year now the amarrian players begged rattatai to make them armor tanks like the gallente, using Eve as a justification. We lost diversity but whatever... I guess as long as our dropsuits act like spaceships... wait what? I mean really though, I love how modern navies and armies are identical. I mean obviously what works in space would work in land warfare right? Couldn't possibly be diverse. In all seriousness, right now we have two near identical races because the gallente can't actually be armor reppers without being broken. I guess also because Minmitar would rather be speed dual tanks then shield regenerators, as we realize how stupidly broken that would be as well. The matar are the wild cards not the Amarr. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4856	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:27:00 - [25] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: So the only reason why the gallente could be better is with a Tac AR.. Well. About jumping over fences, if you fit 3 ferro/2rep on both proto gal and amarr with dmg mods, you will succeed in both suits! But amarr will have more hp/stamina. You guys speak as if we couldn't fit an AR on the amarr assault. But when I do I finally have a better suit with the Amarr + AR than with the Gal + AR. And from what I've seen in videos, except with the Tac, the bonus is absolutely useless^^ 30hp is not worth it for a 3% speed penalty. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1276	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:31:00 - [26] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: So the only reason why the gallente could be better is with a Tac AR.. Well. About jumping over fences, if you fit 3 ferro/2rep on both proto gal and amarr with dmg mods, you will succeed in both suits! But amarr will have more hp/stamina. You guys speak as if we couldn't fit an AR on the amarr assault. But when I do I finally have a better suit with the Amarr + AR than with the Gal + AR. And from what I've seen in videos, except with the Tac, the bonus is absolutely useless^^ 30hp is not worth it for a 3% speed penalty. And a larger hitbox. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 25	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:31:00 - [27] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: So the only reason why the gallente could be better is with a Tac AR.. Well. About jumping over fences, if you fit 3 ferro/2rep on both proto gal and amarr with dmg mods, you will succeed in both suits! But amarr will have more hp/stamina. You guys speak as if we couldn't fit an AR on the amarr assault. But when I do I finally have a better suit with the Amarr + AR than with the Gal + AR. And from what I've seen in videos, except with the Tac, the bonus is absolutely useless^^ 30hp is not worth it for a 3% speed penalty. You mean 3% between gal and amarr? Well, amarr has much more stamina, so the difference in speed is almost inexistant. I think I'd prefer these 50 hp and 5 Pg in order to get better dmg/proto sidearm that I couldn't have with the gal.
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 25	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:33:00 - [28] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: So the only reason why the gallente could be better is with a Tac AR.. Well. About jumping over fences, if you fit 3 ferro/2rep on both proto gal and amarr with dmg mods, you will succeed in both suits! But amarr will have more hp/stamina. You guys speak as if we couldn't fit an AR on the amarr assault. But when I do I finally have a better suit with the Amarr + AR than with the Gal + AR. And from what I've seen in videos, except with the Tac, the bonus is absolutely useless^^ 30hp is not worth it for a 3% speed penalty. And a larger hitbox. That is a good point, I never compared the hitboxes. Is it really noticable? This is quite important indeed.
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1276	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:39:00 - [29] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Daddrobit wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: So the only reason why the gallente could be better is with a Tac AR.. Well. About jumping over fences, if you fit 3 ferro/2rep on both proto gal and amarr with dmg mods, you will succeed in both suits! But amarr will have more hp/stamina. You guys speak as if we couldn't fit an AR on the amarr assault. But when I do I finally have a better suit with the Amarr + AR than with the Gal + AR. And from what I've seen in videos, except with the Tac, the bonus is absolutely useless^^ 30hp is not worth it for a 3% speed penalty. And a larger hitbox. That is a good point, I never compared the hitboxes. Is it really noticable? This is quite important indeed. I don't know if the -actual- hitbox is any larger, but they do seem a fair bit larger with their backpacks and general blocky bulkiness. The Gallente are far more streamlined in their suits and I find are considerably harder to hit when strafing. Also, it's only a 38 hp difference with all core skills maxed and Gal is .32m/s faster on sprint speed on top of the .2m/s walk. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1105	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:40:00 - [30] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: amarr assault is meant to fit ScR which has much higher fitting requirements thus it has more fitting room (OBVIOUSLY) beside that, the gallente assault bonus is not useless. try out the Tac AR with and without the bonus and then tell me it is useless again beside that, gallente can jump over fences when armor tanked. The bonus is usless. It only affects hip fire, I generally aim down my sights unless they are right near me. The only gallente weapon it really helps is the ion pistol, and even that isn't much. Not everyone plays that way, but I see your point. Maybe it should just be dispersion in general...??? Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3259	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:42:00 - [31] - Quote It has 4.5 passive rep... I fail to see the issue. Also, AR's are the best LW in the game right now. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1105	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:44:00 - [32] - Quote It all depends what weapons you want to run. Simple. Go ahead and fit a proto PLC and sidearm to the Amarr Assault and see how well it fares against my Gal Assault with PLC. I have Amarr Assault level 5 and Gallente Assault level 3 (currently skilling back into it since I dropped it in 1.8 DSC respec). I like both suits but use them for different (secret) things. Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 766	Posted - 2014.12.23 18:57:00 - [33] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: While I was doing some fits on protofits, I noticed that the advantages of the Gal assault over the Amarr assault almost don't exist. I personally dont see the point of the Gal assault. Assuming maxed core skills, it has a really useless bonus, less PG (5), less armor (~50), same rep, and just 0.25m/s of running speed which isn't a real good point as it has way less stamina and stamina regen than the Amarr assault suit. On the other hand, Amarr assault has an amazing bonus on its ScR, and it can do everything that gal assaut does better. Why would people pick the Gallente one? I'd like to have your thoughts about this guys ^^ Well that's because the Amarr used to be the Dual tank power houses, but since shields have been inferior for over a year now the amarrian players begged rattatai to make them armor tanks like the gallente, using Eve as a justification. We lost diversity but whatever... I guess as long as our dropsuits act like spaceships... wait what? I mean really though, I love how modern navies and armies are identical. I mean obviously what works in space would work in land warfare right? Couldn't possibly be diverse. In all seriousness, right now we have two near identical races because the gallente can't actually be armor reppers without being broken. I guess also because Minmitar would rather be speed dual tanks then shield regenerators, as we realize how stupidly broken that would be as well. The matar are the wild cards not the Amarr. Well yeah, not anymore the Amarr are not. Used to be more flexible before amarr player's pushed to be armor tanks like the Gallente. If you look at the difference between Gallente and Amarr, then look at the difference between Caldari, Minmitar, and Gallente, the Amarr might as well be identical to the Gallente. We are talking the same slot layouts with near identical base values... Only reason I care right now is because Rattatai keeps balancing the game around the meta. So since there are more armor races than shield based races, he keeps buffing shield profiled weapons.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4860	Posted - 2014.12.23 19:11:00 - [34] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: While I was doing some fits on protofits, I noticed that the advantages of the Gal assault over the Amarr assault almost don't exist. I personally dont see the point of the Gal assault. Assuming maxed core skills, it has a really useless bonus, less PG (5), less armor (~50), same rep, and just 0.25m/s of running speed which isn't a real good point as it has way less stamina and stamina regen than the Amarr assault suit. On the other hand, Amarr assault has an amazing bonus on its ScR, and it can do everything that gal assaut does better. Why would people pick the Gallente one? I'd like to have your thoughts about this guys ^^ Well that's because the Amarr used to be the Dual tank power houses, but since shields have been inferior for over a year now the amarrian players begged rattatai to make them armor tanks like the gallente, using Eve as a justification. We lost diversity but whatever... I guess as long as our dropsuits act like spaceships... wait what? I mean really though, I love how modern navies and armies are identical. I mean obviously what works in space would work in land warfare right? Couldn't possibly be diverse. In all seriousness, right now we have two near identical races because the gallente can't actually be armor reppers without being broken. I guess also because Minmitar would rather be speed dual tanks then shield regenerators, as we realize how stupidly broken that would be as well. The matar are the wild cards not the Amarr. Well yeah, not anymore the Amarr are not. Used to be more flexible before amarr player's pushed to be armor tanks like the Gallente. If you look at the difference between Gallente and Amarr, then look at the difference between Caldari, Minmitar, and Gallente, the Amarr might as well be identical to the Gallente. We are talking the same slot layouts with near identical base values... Only reason I care right now is because Rattatai keeps balancing the game around the meta. So since there are more armor races than shield based races, he keeps buffing shield profiled weapons. The Amarr and Gallente are basically the same in Eve slot wise the only difference is bonuses and base stats. And the reason why we spear headed for a change was because 1. EVE 2. Dual tanking shouldn't be a thing 3. Our slots progression natural leaned towards armor. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 773	Posted - 2014.12.23 19:19:00 - [35] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: While I was doing some fits on protofits, I noticed that the advantages of the Gal assault over the Amarr assault almost don't exist. I personally dont see the point of the Gal assault. Assuming maxed core skills, it has a really useless bonus, less PG (5), less armor (~50), same rep, and just 0.25m/s of running speed which isn't a real good point as it has way less stamina and stamina regen than the Amarr assault suit. On the other hand, Amarr assault has an amazing bonus on its ScR, and it can do everything that gal assaut does better. Why would people pick the Gallente one? I'd like to have your thoughts about this guys ^^ Well that's because the Amarr used to be the Dual tank power houses, but since shields have been inferior for over a year now the amarrian players begged rattatai to make them armor tanks like the gallente, using Eve as a justification. We lost diversity but whatever... I guess as long as our dropsuits act like spaceships... wait what? I mean really though, I love how modern navies and armies are identical. I mean obviously what works in space would work in land warfare right? Couldn't possibly be diverse. In all seriousness, right now we have two near identical races because the gallente can't actually be armor reppers without being broken. I guess also because Minmitar would rather be speed dual tanks then shield regenerators, as we realize how stupidly broken that would be as well. The matar are the wild cards not the Amarr. Well yeah, not anymore the Amarr are not. Used to be more flexible before amarr player's pushed to be armor tanks like the Gallente. If you look at the difference between Gallente and Amarr, then look at the difference between Caldari, Minmitar, and Gallente, the Amarr might as well be identical to the Gallente. We are talking the same slot layouts with near identical base values... Only reason I care right now is because Rattatai keeps balancing the game around the meta. So since there are more armor races than shield based races, he keeps buffing shield profiled weapons. The Amarr and Gallente are basically the same in Eve slot wise the only difference is bonuses and base stats. And the reason why we spear headed for a change was because 1. EVE 2. Dual tanking shouldn't be a thing 3. Our slots progression natural leaned towards armor. You can say what you want I've seen the same arguments over and over and I still maintain you only say these things because the meta favors your style. Take Minmitar for example, we used to be shield tanks that were inferior to Caldari. This made min assaults useless. Caldari are pretty useless themselves, pure shield tanking they just can't survive, hence why they all dual tank now too. Although shield tanking could be fixed with a recharge delay damage threshold like what vehicles have. All I hear from your 3 points in reality is: 1. Armor tanking is better, and Eve justifies why my suits should be armor tanked. 2. Dual tanking shouldn't be a thing, because armor tanking is better so I'd rather just be the best. 3. Our slot progression naturally leaned towards armor, because we had it changed to 2/4 and 3/5 instead of 3/4 and 4/4 because armor tanking is better.


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