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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.24 12:58:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Lol what? You guys are so pathetic.
RR is a ranged weapon, stick to its ideal environment and bot run it in CQC like a dumbass, learning how to aim wouldn't hurt you either.
The Breach AR sucks? You serious, how much of a scrub do you have to be to even say that?
People have depended way too much on easy mode and not thinking it's gotten to the point where they can't function properly without a weapon being able to be good at everything.
You want to see something really funny you should watch someone go from Destiny's aim assist dependency to Dust 514's lack thereof.
What got me was that people said Destiny's aiming was "perfect" and Dust 514's aim assist was an "aimbot" and "too powerful".... Talk about a double standard!
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.24 13:44:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Assault Rail rifle is actually decent for a change, i know I was surprised when I tried it... I Hate that iteration of the RR so much I almost forgot it existed on my Alt account with RR maxed....
The standard RR? That Charge up time with DUST's frame rate drops and messed up net code makes it near impossible to use without completely relying on aim assist to finish targets off. You can land the odd few shots in a row? But not that consistently to actually kill. You can injure the hell out of everyone?
Someone gets CQC with you? Which is gonna happen alot in DUST, Be it dropships, LAV's, switched spawn sites.. a Rogue enemy Uplink... etc... Your pretty much screwed unless your really good with your sidearm.
People who got mad that a RR killed them in CQC has ruined the weapon. As everyone told them as they cried endlessly on the forums.
It's a fairly simple formula.
More Damage <--------> More Range
You shouldn't have both and the RR was doing well in all categories. If you want CQC potential, go ARR or AR. The entire point is that if someone gets CQC with you you rightly -SHOULD- be screwed -BECAUSE- you are using a long range weapon, much in the same way that someone using a CQC weapon is going to be screwed by a long range weapon.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.24 14:10:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Bethhy wrote:Assault Rail rifle is actually decent for a change, i know I was surprised when I tried it... I Hate that iteration of the RR so much I almost forgot it existed on my Alt account with RR maxed....
The standard RR? That Charge up time with DUST's frame rate drops and messed up net code makes it near impossible to use without completely relying on aim assist to finish targets off. You can land the odd few shots in a row? But not that consistently to actually kill. You can injure the hell out of everyone?
Someone gets CQC with you? Which is gonna happen alot in DUST, Be it dropships, LAV's, switched spawn sites.. a Rogue enemy Uplink... etc... Your pretty much screwed unless your really good with your sidearm.
People who got mad that a RR killed them in CQC has ruined the weapon. As everyone told them as they cried endlessly on the forums. It's a fairly simple formula. More Damage <--------> More Range You shouldn't have both and the RR was doing well in all categories. If you want CQC potential, go ARR or AR. The entire point is that if someone gets CQC with you you rightly -SHOULD- be screwed -BECAUSE- you are using a long range weapon, much in the same way that someone using a CQC weapon is going to be screwed by a long range weapon. You spend more time reloading and watching your scope bounce around now. TacAR>RR
ADS. All I can tell you. If you're trying to hipfire the RR you're doing it wrong.
Tac AR is a combination between a long-range Scrambler emulator and a short-range Assault Rifle. It's a semi-automatic without a charge up function and has about as many rounds in the magazine as a Scrambler has before it overheats. It's essentially a shorter ranged Scrambler Rifle without the high alpha. Further more, it's like comparing apples to oranges as it's a semi-automatic and a rail rifle is a fully automatic.
Now, if you want to compare a Tac AR and a non-existent Tac RR... It'd be a different story. But for the moment you're comparing two drastically different weapons that have no correlation other than they're hybrid weapons that shoot stuff.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.12.25 05:25:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Bethhy wrote:Assault Rail rifle is actually decent for a change, i know I was surprised when I tried it... I Hate that iteration of the RR so much I almost forgot it existed on my Alt account with RR maxed....
The standard RR? That Charge up time with DUST's frame rate drops and messed up net code makes it near impossible to use without completely relying on aim assist to finish targets off. You can land the odd few shots in a row? But not that consistently to actually kill. You can injure the hell out of everyone?
Someone gets CQC with you? Which is gonna happen alot in DUST, Be it dropships, LAV's, switched spawn sites.. a Rogue enemy Uplink... etc... Your pretty much screwed unless your really good with your sidearm.
People who got mad that a RR killed them in CQC has ruined the weapon. As everyone told them as they cried endlessly on the forums. It's a fairly simple formula. More Damage <--------> More Range You shouldn't have both and the RR was doing well in all categories. If you want CQC potential, go ARR or AR. The entire point is that if someone gets CQC with you you rightly -SHOULD- be screwed -BECAUSE- you are using a long range weapon, much in the same way that someone using a CQC weapon is going to be screwed by a long range weapon. You spend more time reloading and watching your scope bounce around now. TacAR>RR ADS. All I can tell you. If you're trying to hipfire the RR you're doing it wrong. Tac AR is a combination between a long-range Scrambler emulator and a short-range Assault Rifle. It's a semi-automatic without a charge up function and has about as many rounds in the magazine as a Scrambler has before it overheats. It's essentially a shorter ranged Scrambler Rifle without the high alpha. Further more, it's like comparing apples to oranges as it's a semi-automatic and a rail rifle is a fully automatic. Now, if you want to compare a Tac AR and a non-existent Tac RR... It'd be a different story. But for the moment you're comparing two drastically different weapons that have no correlation other than they're hybrid weapons that shoot stuff. Yeah... not doing it wrong. ADS is crap on the RR. Also, not comparing but suggesting that the Tac AR is the replacement for the intended RR situations. Which is medium-long range engagements. I could give two ***** about the hipfire. Just telling what the FOTM is... condescending attitude isn't appreciated. Merry Christmas I don't know what RR you are using, but when I fire in ADS it bounces after the 4th shot
It's not a condescending attitude. Sorry you feel that way.
They nerfed the hipfire on the RR because it was overperforming in CQC, so ADS is where it's intended use is. I've used the RR recently and I can tell you that it's still just as powerful as it always was (and rightly so considering that they did absolutely nothing to it's ADS). Tac AR -CAN'T- be the replacement for the "intended RR situations" because it's optimal range is significantly lower and it doesn't have the same kind of damage output, regardless of what we choose to define 'semi-automatic' as.
If you dislike the recoil, give it a little while, I'm sure the Caldari Assault bonus change to reduced recoil will help out. Otherwise your best bet is to change weapons. Sometimes the playstyle we want isn't the playstyle we're good at (I've realized this switching from Gal Assault to Min Assault).
In response to Betthy: "A semi-automatic, or self-loading, firearm is one that performs all steps necessary to prepare it to discharge again after firingGÇöassuming cartridges remain in the firearm's feed device or magazine." So, by pure definition, the Tactical Assault Rifle is a semi-automatic weapon regardless of it's fire rate. I apologize if you feel differently but it's betraying facts as that is how the Firearm Action is described.
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