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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.12.21 08:35:00 -
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Some people say it isn't or that it may not be, but it is.
Just look at Beijing.
That article was like reading a short story from EVE. It's just surreal.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
520
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Posted - 2014.12.21 12:13:00 -
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A lot of the issues in China are due to an almost complete lack of pollution regulations.
But yeah I love when you hear the weak ass "but the science is still out on it", Hey fuckface no it isn't
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5158
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Posted - 2014.12.21 14:26:00 -
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What? Who says it isn't?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6511
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Posted - 2014.12.21 15:27:00 -
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Spademan wrote:What? Who says it isn't?
It isn't. You could argue that the Earth is warming up normally as a cycle that has caused.the ice ages over millenia. Though, it is almost impossible to discount that Earth has been accelerating in global warming ever since the 20th century.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
Xer Cloud Consortium
106
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Posted - 2014.12.22 18:24:00 -
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Only ignoramuses deny it.
It is natural sure, but not at this rate.
I do not wish to discuss it because people are just generally fking stupid and the human collective nature will see us only making a real change when it's too late.
70% of the Amazon is now gone as well.
K den.
K den.
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
Xer Cloud Consortium
106
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Posted - 2014.12.22 18:28:00 -
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We live in a time where people think their ignorance is as valid as someone giving facts.
Example - "Well I don't know nothing about that and I've not seen anything factual about it".
Another example - " Yes well even though you know what you're talking about and have provided facts, I have not found out myself so I'm not sure".
K den.
K den.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
1223
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Posted - 2014.12.22 18:39:00 -
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I like turtles. |
duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2014.12.22 19:09:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:I like turtles.
I like pink fluffy unicorns that dance on rainbows.
Choo Choo
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General John Ripper
26937
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Posted - 2014.12.23 01:10:00 -
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My poor future grandchildren.
Tacos.
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Immortal John Ripper
26940
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Posted - 2014.12.23 01:10:00 -
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My poor future grandchildren.
Tacos.
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
Xer Cloud Consortium
108
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Posted - 2014.12.23 03:52:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:My poor future grandchildren.
K den on agreement.
K den.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
1495
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Posted - 2014.12.23 04:46:00 -
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE wrote:We live in a time where people think their ignorance is as valid as someone giving facts.
Example - "Well I don't know nothing about that and I've not seen anything factual about it".
Another example - " Yes well even though you know what you're talking about and have provided facts, I have not found out myself so I'm not sure".
K den.
I really can't agree more with this.
Anti-intellectualism, folks!
Its a side effect of gross capitalism with a side of overdemocracy. People have been groomed from a young age to think they are all equally important. That everyone's opinions are equally important. When in the grand scheme of things, opinions mean nothing. Facts are the only thing that matter.
It has made stupid people, and people stupid. Stupid people that think their opinions are important.
Seriously, stupid people are pretty much the only reason I think humanity will have to eventually adopt strict eugenics policies to move forward as a species.
I find eugenics to be a little bit less than moral...
...but even morals mean **** all when faced with extinction.
Obligatory: But that's just like, my opinion, man.
Someone's gotta tell the stupids that their ideas are bad, and I guess it's my job...
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
Xer Cloud Consortium
109
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Posted - 2014.12.23 04:55:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE wrote:We live in a time where people think their ignorance is as valid as someone giving facts.
Example - "Well I don't know nothing about that and I've not seen anything factual about it".
Another example - " Yes well even though you know what you're talking about and have provided facts, I have not found out myself so I'm not sure".
K den. I really can't agree more with this. Anti-intellectualism, folks! Its a side effect of gross capitalism with a side of overdemocracy. People have been groomed from a young age to think they are all equally important. That everyone's opinions are equally important. When in the grand scheme of things, opinions mean nothing. Facts are the only thing that matter. It has made stupid people, and people stupid. Stupid people that think their opinions are important. Seriously, stupid people are pretty much the only reason I think humanity will have to eventually adopt strict eugenics policies to move forward as a species. I find eugenics to be a little bit less than moral... ...but even morals mean **** all when faced with extinction. Obligatory: But that's just like, my opinion, man.
K den of agreement.
You'd be shocked if you knew my main and probably wouldn't believe me.
You won't be finding out though.
K den.
Ps. You might eventually lol.
K den.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
1497
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Posted - 2014.12.23 07:17:00 -
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE wrote:We live in a time where people think their ignorance is as valid as someone giving facts.
Example - "Well I don't know nothing about that and I've not seen anything factual about it".
Another example - " Yes well even though you know what you're talking about and have provided facts, I have not found out myself so I'm not sure".
K den. I really can't agree more with this. Anti-intellectualism, folks! Its a side effect of gross capitalism with a side of overdemocracy. People have been groomed from a young age to think they are all equally important. That everyone's opinions are equally important. When in the grand scheme of things, opinions mean nothing. Facts are the only thing that matter. It has made stupid people, and people stupid. Stupid people that think their opinions are important. Seriously, stupid people are pretty much the only reason I think humanity will have to eventually adopt strict eugenics policies to move forward as a species. I find eugenics to be a little bit less than moral... ...but even morals mean **** all when faced with extinction. Obligatory: But that's just like, my opinion, man. K den of agreement. You'd be shocked if you knew my main and probably wouldn't believe me. You won't be finding out though. K den. Ps. You might eventually lol.
I mean, it's obvious you're on an alt...
But why would I be shocked?
Are you someone I usually disagree with? I disagree with a lot of people, so I wouldnt be shocked...
Jadek alt? GJR alt? I wouldn't be shocked at either of those, lol.
Someone I know? That's about the only thing that would surprise me.
Someone's gotta tell the stupids that their ideas are bad, and I guess it's my job...
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
Xer Cloud Consortium
111
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Posted - 2014.12.23 07:30:00 -
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Because of the general level of stupidity i portray with this alt lol.
I'd say we generally agree yes. I generally get on with most people on the forums.
I am neither of those but i believe in GJR.
K den lol.
K den.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1436
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Posted - 2014.12.24 03:46:00 -
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Dayum
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Give me da iskiez
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1317
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Posted - 2014.12.31 09:45:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Some people say it isn't or that it may not be, but it is. Just look at Beijing.That article was like reading a short story from EVE. It's just surreal.
Funny how the ice caps have started to grow instead of loose ice.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1601
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Posted - 2014.12.31 11:27:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Some people say it isn't or that it may not be, but it is. Just look at Beijing.That article was like reading a short story from EVE. It's just surreal. Funny how the ice caps have started to grow instead of loseing ice. Aka ice caps grew past 2006 levels.
Only in Antarctic. And:
"However, this growth rate is not nearly as large as the decrease in the Arctic.GÇ¥
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/arctic-antarctic-ice.html
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1317
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Posted - 2014.12.31 13:24:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Some people say it isn't or that it may not be, but it is. Just look at Beijing.That article was like reading a short story from EVE. It's just surreal. Funny how the ice caps have started to grow instead of loseing ice. Aka ice caps grew past 2006 levels. Only in Antarctic. And: "However, this growth rate is not nearly as large as the decrease in the Arctic.GÇ¥ http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/arctic-antarctic-ice.html
Yet both are growing blowing peoples minds
We fight for the future of the State not our
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
548
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Posted - 2015.01.06 12:07:00 -
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just a happy coincidence?
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/01/05/3607735/2014-hottest-year-by-far/
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6974
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Posted - 2015.01.10 03:49:00 -
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That is exactly the stuff that scares me. People are simply staying in doors more, buying better air conditioners, bringing water bottles everywhere, eating healthier, wearing sunscreen... These are all bandaids. We can't ignore it forever and if we do we will doom our planet disturbingly fast.
If emissions were liquor: we are binge drinking right now and show no chances of stopping or even reducing what we are doing.
I'm young right now, sixteen, and it actually scares me. If our planet is warming up this rapidly then what will things be like when I'm older? Will half of the places we live on even be liveable? What will summers be like? What will winters be like?
Is this the future we really want to bring new humans in to?
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6503
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Posted - 2015.01.10 04:11:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:That is exactly the stuff that scares me. People are simply staying in doors more, buying better air conditioners, bringing water bottles everywhere, eating healthier, wearing sunscreen... These are all bandaids. We can't ignore it forever and if we do we will doom our planet disturbingly fast. If emissions were liquor: we are binge drinking right now and show no chances of stopping or even reducing what we are doing. I'm young right now, sixteen, and it actually scares me. If our planet is warming up this rapidly then what will things be like when I'm older? Will half of the places we live on even be liveable? What will summers be like? What will winters be like? Is this the future we really want to bring new humans in to?
I've got a kid close to your age and a couple more youngerGǪ I share your concerns. On top of that a number of other factors beyond just environment really cause me concern as well. Of course many of these issues overlap, but I don't want to go on a lengthy rant hereGǪ
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6975
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Posted - 2015.01.10 04:26:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:That is exactly the stuff that scares me. People are simply staying in doors more, buying better air conditioners, bringing water bottles everywhere, eating healthier, wearing sunscreen... These are all bandaids. We can't ignore it forever and if we do we will doom our planet disturbingly fast. If emissions were liquor: we are binge drinking right now and show no chances of stopping or even reducing what we are doing. I'm young right now, sixteen, and it actually scares me. If our planet is warming up this rapidly then what will things be like when I'm older? Will half of the places we live on even be liveable? What will summers be like? What will winters be like? Is this the future we really want to bring new humans in to? I've got a kid close to your age and a couple more youngerGǪ I share your concerns. On top of that a number of other factors beyond just environment really cause me concern as well. Of course many of these issues overlap, but I don't want to go on a lengthy rant hereGǪ
All I can hope for is education. Education is beginning to be more lengthy, more thorough and people are starting to be expected to go on to college with several AP classes in their belts. Education may not be wisdom, but I hope that maybe through better understanding we can help thin out extreme and illogical thought. Maybe we can turn things around.
The biggest issue is people who are already old and refuse to change.
I'm not going for a utopian hippy vision. I'm going for a vision where people are intelligent, wisdom is more spread out, people are not easily fooled and hysteria has been killed off because of how much of a threat it is to society. Yes, it will take time, but I hope that by the time my generation is old enough to be in a positions to change things there will be enough wise people to speed up education.
We need good morals too. Knowledge is useless if you are not adept in how to use it. Morals are important and they can be taught to a certain point, but unlike most subjects it cannot be forced into people. Morals are willingly accepted.
One day we will figure things out or die trying.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6503
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Posted - 2015.01.10 04:39:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Llast 326 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:That is exactly the stuff that scares me. People are simply staying in doors more, buying better air conditioners, bringing water bottles everywhere, eating healthier, wearing sunscreen... These are all bandaids. We can't ignore it forever and if we do we will doom our planet disturbingly fast. If emissions were liquor: we are binge drinking right now and show no chances of stopping or even reducing what we are doing. I'm young right now, sixteen, and it actually scares me. If our planet is warming up this rapidly then what will things be like when I'm older? Will half of the places we live on even be liveable? What will summers be like? What will winters be like? Is this the future we really want to bring new humans in to? I've got a kid close to your age and a couple more youngerGǪ I share your concerns. On top of that a number of other factors beyond just environment really cause me concern as well. Of course many of these issues overlap, but I don't want to go on a lengthy rant hereGǪ All I can hope for is education. Education is beginning to be more lengthy, more thorough and people are starting to be expected to go on to college with several AP classes in their belts. Education may not be wisdom, but I hope that maybe through better understanding we can help thin out extreme and illogical thought. Maybe we can turn things around. The biggest issue is people who are already old and refuse to change. I'm not going for a utopian hippy vision. I'm going for a vision where people are intelligent, wisdom is more spread out, people are not easily fooled and hysteria has been killed off because of how much of a threat it is to society. Yes, it will take time, but I hope that by the time my generation is old enough to be in a positions to change things there will be enough wise people to speed up education. We need good morals too. Knowledge is useless if you are not adept in how to use it. Morals are important and they can be taught to a certain point, but unlike most subjects it cannot be forced into people. Morals are willingly accepted. One day we will figure things out or die trying.
I agree, but going to toss one thing inGǪ
Age is not the reason people refuse to change, it has more to do with how people think. Age is not as much of a factor to this as western societies would have us believe (this is part of my field of education and employment) Education is important in expanding in multilateral thinking and avoiding the pitfalls of concrete/black and white thinking. So yes that will help immensely. Free education is one thing i advocate for a lot. Many people my age (37  ) are populating the post secondary education scene these days. But financially it should be accessible to all people. Advocating equality is also important because of the hierarchal nature of capitalist societies (I know it is not unique to them, but is highly prevalent, and coupled with the heightened individualist nature of those societies it leans towards the "Me" mentality)GǪ inequality inhibits positive development in the world.
Gahhh
I better stop I was not going to rant 
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6976
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Posted - 2015.01.10 05:03:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:I agree, but going to toss one thing inGǪ Age is not the reason people refuse to change, it has more to do with how people think. Age is not as much of a factor to this as western societies would have us believe (this is part of my field of education and employment) Education is important in expanding in multilateral thinking and avoiding the pitfalls of concrete/black and white thinking. So yes that will help immensely. Free education is one thing i advocate for a lot. Many people my age (37 ) are populating the post secondary education scene these days. But financially it should be accessible to all people. Advocating equality is also important because of the hierarchal nature of capitalist societies (I know it is not unique to them, but is highly prevalent, and coupled with the heightened individualist nature of those societies it leans towards the "Me" mentality)GǪ inequality inhibits positive development in the world. Gahhh I better stop I was not going to rant
You are not that old, by old I meant people in their late forties and up. Many of those people are still stuck with old problems and are trying to fix them with old solutions.
It's not completely their fault either. Humans tend to become less malleable as they get older. The thing is that these older people tend to slow down progress often enough. Not all old people are bad of course. Most are good people who have become wiser and humbler over the years, but many are not equipped for the fast changing politics of today where many views are given by many groups and people tend to forget to be objective and are rather passionate about things they shouldn't be.
This is where education steps in.
Basic and free education is good. Though I believe that all subjects should be more thorough. Things like calculus should be the standard to graduate in developed countries. History should be objective and world history should be emphasized more: particularly the study of the origins and changes of modern cultures. Philosophocal thought along with language should become harsher as I believe that current English classes are jokes where difficulty is established more on quantity than substance. Science, should be taught faster. Right now Science is far too easy in Elementary school. I didn't learn anything substantially knew or ground breaking until I was in my first class of biology in High School. That needs to change.
If more people had access to the knowledge and actually learned it then life would be better for everyone.
Not all smart people are wise, but all wise people are smart. We can only hope that by increasing the latter that the former will increase in number.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2972
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Posted - 2015.01.10 11:46:00 -
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The thing that pisses me off the most about this whole issue is there is so much emphasis on taxing things and making legislation but a seeming lack of invention, care about natural resources (like the rainforests) and things of that nature.
I recently saw an interview with a guy that was an energy advisor to a country in I think it was Africa I forget which country exactly. He we aiding them in matters of power and stuff while trying his best to keep things clean. He even said himself that their best option was to go nuclear but he could not understand why both that country and international efforts were not pushing more nuclear based technology as it is by far the best option for emerging economies even if it does have its risks.
I dont expect big business to give a **** about our environment and nature though. As per usual money rules all.
I will say though that I would miss the internal combustion engine in all its glorious forms if we are eventually forced to electric vehicles. You will have to pry that from my cold dead hands you god damn tree huggers!! 
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
2136
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Posted - 2015.01.11 19:43:00 -
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If its real, it needs to hurry its ass up, its negative 34 C where I am.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
7034
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Posted - 2015.01.13 04:02:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:The thing that pisses me off the most about this whole issue is there is so much emphasis on taxing things and making legislation but a seeming lack of invention, care about natural resources (like the rainforests) and things of that nature. I recently saw an interview with a guy that was an energy advisor to a country in I think it was Africa I forget which country exactly. He we aiding them in matters of power and stuff while trying his best to keep things clean. He even said himself that their best option was to go nuclear but he could not understand why both that country and international efforts were not pushing more nuclear based technology as it is by far the best option for emerging economies even if it does have its risks. I dont expect big business to give a **** about our environment and nature though. As per usual money rules all. I will say though that I would miss the internal combustion engine in all its glorious forms if we are eventually forced to electric vehicles. You will have to pry that from my cold dead hands you god damn tree huggers!!
I think the next great invention will be a sort of filter for pollutants from exhaust.
That would buy is a crap ton of time.
They could probably make them huge and attach them to factories.
The only thing similar right now is algae tanks, but I doubt we will go with such a costly and high maintenance idea.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6518
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Posted - 2015.01.13 04:53:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:The thing that pisses me off the most about this whole issue is there is so much emphasis on taxing things and making legislation but a seeming lack of invention, care about natural resources (like the rainforests) and things of that nature. I recently saw an interview with a guy that was an energy advisor to a country in I think it was Africa I forget which country exactly. He we aiding them in matters of power and stuff while trying his best to keep things clean. He even said himself that their best option was to go nuclear but he could not understand why both that country and international efforts were not pushing more nuclear based technology as it is by far the best option for emerging economies even if it does have its risks. I dont expect big business to give a **** about our environment and nature though. As per usual money rules all. I will say though that I would miss the internal combustion engine in all its glorious forms if we are eventually forced to electric vehicles. You will have to pry that from my cold dead hands you god damn tree huggers!! I think the next great invention will be a sort of filter for pollutants from exhaust. That would buy is a crap ton of time. They could probably make them huge and attach them to factories. The only thing similar right now is algae tanks, but I doubt we will go with such a costly and high maintenance idea.
Just read an interesting article about pollutant capture (sorry it was in a journal not online so no link)
Company in California is capturing methane from dairy cow waste slews and using it to make plastics. Their process eliminate oil from the plastic making process. Far cleaner than previous methods and capture of other pollutants to boot. though they are still making a plastic that does not break down in any reasonable amount of time  it is still progress.
Some other pollutant capture techniques do exist but not always with positive effects. Carbon capture techniques are sometimes used in LNG drilling but the effects of trapping that carbon long term are not known. They trap it underground and create carbon pockets. I don't really understand it, my spouse has a better understanding of it, she has done a fair bit of research on sustainable development practices.
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1958
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:58:00 -
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And it's all thanks to the commies.
The horror! The horror!
( -íº -£-û -íº)
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