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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1990
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:34:00 -
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Since you know,they are over powered as ****.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
2
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:37:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Since you know,they are over powered as ****.
Its not the heavies
Its really you.
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1437
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:40:00 -
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remove that explosive resist bull ****
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Union118
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
107
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:40:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Since you know,they are over powered as ****.
Heavies are just fine.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
20455
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:40:00 -
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Gold-Eagle wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Since you know,they are over powered as ****. Its not the heavies Its really you.
Did I see you in a heavy suit earlier?
Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
97
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:41:00 -
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Ccp nerfed the hmg once again and u want another nerf to the sentinels?...... Lol I can see u 2/20.
That would be a nooby move by ccp, but knowing them nobody is safe. :)
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
228
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:42:00 -
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This argument is about as compelling as a freshman telling me to shut up.
[36.2m SP - Next skill: Cardiac Regulation 5]
(Assault mk.0 - Logistics mk.0)
"Call me beep me, if you want a logi"
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:45:00 -
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Alex-ZX wrote:Ccp nerfed the hmg once again and u want another nerf to the sentinels?...... Lol I can see u 2/20.
That would be a nooby move by ccp, but knowing them nobody is safe. :)
The hmg has not recieved a nerf, in like months...in irder to nerf the hmg you have to nerf the op dps, the heat changes still allow me to easily kill multiple opponents, no skill really.
Choo Choo
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
649
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:54:00 -
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They're not, HMG is.
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
3
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Since you know,they are over powered as ****. Its not the heavies Its really you. Did I see you in a heavy suit earlier?
What heavy suits i don't run that op crap i run uh......Amarr scouts?
Yeah Amarr scout you must of seen me in that and thought i was a senitel.....
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
97
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:55:00 -
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duster 35000 wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:Ccp nerfed the hmg once again and u want another nerf to the sentinels?...... Lol I can see u 2/20.
That would be a nooby move by ccp, but knowing them nobody is safe. :) The hmg has not recieved a nerf, in like months...in irder to nerf the hmg you have to nerf the op dps, the heat changes still allow me to easily kill multiple opponents, no skill really.
So what's the point of being a stone that covers one objective.. The heat build up is important if u defend objectives, actually if u have many enemies infront that hmg will overheat really fast, the dps is ok, if not, what was the point of introducing heavy weapons in dust, u better remove sentinels and all heavy weapons, heavies always been a freaking problem since 3 years ago, they have lived between nerf and buff, lol I have no issues against them since that time, but looks like many of u always will complain, I want to see another nerf against them,
Sentinels will cry again and then ccp buff them and then u will cry and ccp will nerf once again as it is been for 3 years. Lol
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
4
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:00:00 -
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All heavies will be balanced once we get Gallente and Amarr heavy weapons
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
118
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:00:00 -
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Alex-ZX wrote:duster 35000 wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:Ccp nerfed the hmg once again and u want another nerf to the sentinels?...... Lol I can see u 2/20.
That would be a nooby move by ccp, but knowing them nobody is safe. :) The hmg has not recieved a nerf, in like months...in irder to nerf the hmg you have to nerf the op dps, the heat changes still allow me to easily kill multiple opponents, no skill really. So what's the point of being a stone that covers one objective.. The heat build up is important if u defend objectives, actually if u have many enemies infront that hmg will overheat really fast, the dps is ok, if not, what was the point of introducing heavy weapons in dust, u better remove sentinels and all heavy weapons, heavies always been a freaking problem since 3 years ago, they have lived between nerf and buff, lol I have no issues against them since that time, but looks like many of u always will complain, I want to see another nerf against them, Sentinels will cry again and then ccp buff them and then u will cry and ccp will nerf once again as it is been for 3 years. Lol
How about un buffing them by reducing thier rof by 100? They need some type of dps nerf, they are meant to hold objectives or defend, not instakill everything, my hmg never overheats no matter how many enemies I get, my only concern is ammo.
Choo Choo
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1991
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:01:00 -
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Unless you brick tank, heavies literally kill every suit in less then 3 seconds.
Couple this with scouts having to run 2 - 3 damps and shields being **** and the explosive resistance, the direct counter to heavies doesn't counter them anymore.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1139
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:03:00 -
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The damage and defense is fine nerf the god damn range heavy guns should not be able to kill the same distance of an AR.. We currently have heavies not scared at all to come out in the open because they can HMG people across the map... |
Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
97
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:04:00 -
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duster 35000 wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:duster 35000 wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:Ccp nerfed the hmg once again and u want another nerf to the sentinels?...... Lol I can see u 2/20.
That would be a nooby move by ccp, but knowing them nobody is safe. :) The hmg has not recieved a nerf, in like months...in irder to nerf the hmg you have to nerf the op dps, the heat changes still allow me to easily kill multiple opponents, no skill really. So what's the point of being a stone that covers one objective.. The heat build up is important if u defend objectives, actually if u have many enemies infront that hmg will overheat really fast, the dps is ok, if not, what was the point of introducing heavy weapons in dust, u better remove sentinels and all heavy weapons, heavies always been a freaking problem since 3 years ago, they have lived between nerf and buff, lol I have no issues against them since that time, but looks like many of u always will complain, I want to see another nerf against them, Sentinels will cry again and then ccp buff them and then u will cry and ccp will nerf once again as it is been for 3 years. Lol How about un buffing them by reducing thier rof by 100? They need some type of dps nerf, they are meant to hold objectives or defend, not instakill everything, my hmg never overheats no matter how many enemies I get, my only concern is ammo.
I hope to see u in battle so I can show u what I'm talking about, lol
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
118
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:05:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Unless you brick tank, heavies literally kill every suit in less then 3 seconds.
Couple this with scouts having to run 2 - 3 damps and shields being **** and the explosive resistance, the direct counter to heavies doesn't counter them anymore.
You know what's also sad? Armor heavies outclass caldari heavies (primary shield tanks), and jt may be somewhat viable solo, but most heavies have logi's anyways...still sad going toe to toe is...terrible.
Ugh, my english is terrible right now.
Choo Choo
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1438
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:05:00 -
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Alex-ZX wrote:Ccp nerfed the hmg once again and u want another nerf to the sentinels?...... Lol I can see u 2/20.
That would be a nooby move by ccp, but knowing them nobody is safe. :)
just the explosive resistance should go that was buffed before other changes brought them up to par..
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
4
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:06:00 -
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Seems people arent to use Milita shotguns to take down heavies
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
97
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:09:00 -
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duster 35000 wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Unless you brick tank, heavies literally kill every suit in less then 3 seconds.
Couple this with scouts having to run 2 - 3 damps and shields being **** and the explosive resistance, the direct counter to heavies doesn't counter them anymore. You know what's also sad? Armor heavies outclass caldari heavies (primary shield tanks), and jt may be somewhat viable solo, but most heavies have logi's anyways...still sad going toe to toe is...terrible. Ugh, my english is terrible right now.
Agree with the thing of cal and min sentinels, that aren't pretty good because of shield tanking,
But also both in correct hands are beast, really hard to see because everyone chose gal or amarr
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:09:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:Ccp nerfed the hmg once again and u want another nerf to the sentinels?...... Lol I can see u 2/20.
That would be a nooby move by ccp, but knowing them nobody is safe. :) just the explosive resistance should go that was buffed before other changes brought them up to par..
No, explosive resistance should stay, helps against grenades too.
The only problem is armor stacking and the hmg...mostly the hmg.
Oh the mass driver needs a small buff, mostly the crappy assault variant.
Choo Choo
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1991
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:10:00 -
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Gold-Eagle wrote:Seems people arent to use Milita shotguns to take down heavies
Lol, shotguns are garbage, wouldn't be so bad if CCP managed to fix their hit detection, but when you can fire six shots into someone and they take zero damage, there's a problem.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
97
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:12:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:Seems people arent to use Milita shotguns to take down heavies Lol, shotguns are garbage, wouldn't be so bad if CCP managed to fix their hit detection, but when you can fire six shots into someone and they take zero damage, there's a problem.
We aren't talking about Bons shotgun, :)
As a scout is easy to kill sentinels, with REs or shotguns
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1991
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:13:00 -
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Alex-ZX wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:Seems people arent to use Milita shotguns to take down heavies Lol, shotguns are garbage, wouldn't be so bad if CCP managed to fix their hit detection, but when you can fire six shots into someone and they take zero damage, there's a problem. We aren't talking about Bons shotgun, :) As a scout is easy to kill sentinels, with REs or shotguns
All shotguns have hit detection issues.
I've been a scout since chromo, shotguns have had constant HD issues, every variant. Knives as well.
You also need two re's to kill a sent.
Scout can't counter heavies with their garbage HP and lack of fitting ability anymore.
I speak as a min scout who can't fit a kincat because I need two + damps so I'm not perma scanned.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1438
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:20:00 -
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duster 35000 wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:Ccp nerfed the hmg once again and u want another nerf to the sentinels?...... Lol I can see u 2/20.
That would be a nooby move by ccp, but knowing them nobody is safe. :) just the explosive resistance should go that was buffed before other changes brought them up to par.. No, explosive resistance should stay, helps against grenades too. The only problem is armor stacking and the hmg...mostly the hmg. Oh the mass driver needs a small buff, mostly the crappy assault variant.
yea the mass driver is in a very sad spot right now. the input lag makes it pointless in CQC.. most everything tanks 6 freedom shots backed by damage mods.
the problem with the MD, it's so underwhelming and has a ridiculous fitting cost applied to it as if it's some kind of powerful weapon again.
i gave up last night after 2 years of MD and skilled into ACR.. the input lag coupled with the fitting cost broke the camels back.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
4
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:22:00 -
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I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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Robocop Junior
research lab
1039
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:24:00 -
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Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
or he went 18-1 instead of 18-0 DAMN HEAVIES!
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
3091
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:24:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Since you know,they are over powered as ****.
They aren't OP. Easy to kill with the right approach, same as any other suit.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1991
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:25:00 -
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Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
I guess you don't know me
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
4
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:27:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
or he went 18-1 instead of 18-0 DAMN HEAVIES!
Lol i see what you did there
+1
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
232
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:28:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
I guess you don't know me
No one's impressed.
[36.2m SP - Next skill: Cardiac Regulation 5]
(Assault mk.0 - Logistics mk.0)
"Call me beep me, if you want a logi"
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:28:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
I guess you don't know me
congratz
Choo Choo
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
528
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:31:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
I guess you don't know me
This is a picture from a ******* pub match. This is like beating a team of leg amputees in football.
May we never forget his sacrifice
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
5
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:32:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
I guess you don't know me
If you can do that there is no reason to be whinning to ccp to nerf them
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
110
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:33:00 -
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gIVE THE BOLT PISTOL 800hp DAMAGE AND LETS CALL IT EVEN
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
7
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:39:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
I guess you don't know me This is a picture from a ******* pub match. This is like beating a team of leg amputees in football.
that fking scrb
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1996
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:41:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
I guess you don't know me This is a picture from a ******* pub match. This is like beating a team of leg amputees in football.
Thanks tips, I stopped playing PC when it turned to garbage.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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Enkidu Camuel
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
250
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:42:00 -
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Heavies are fine in my opinion, they need some tweaks but they are litereally one step to become UP.
Some days ago I had a 1v1 against a cal assault cqc, he was using adv gear (dunno about modules tho) while I was using a proto calsent, he destroyed me with an arr in cqc so clearly either heavies are fine, he/she was mlg or I'm a living shame for all the heavies out there (cuz I mostly run scout, assault and logi lol)
a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ PRAISE HELIX a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3223
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:45:00 -
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Enkidu Camuel wrote:Heavies are fine in my opinion, they need some tweaks but they are litereally one step to become UP.
Some days ago I had a 1v1 against a cal assault cqc, he was using adv gear (dunno about modules tho) while I was using a proto calsent, he destroyed me with an arr in cqc so clearly either heavies are fine, he/she was mlg or I'm a living shame for all the heavies out there (cuz I mostly run scout, assault and logi lol)
Id say it was the latter.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
210
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:45:00 -
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My problem with hmg heavies is that there is soooo many of them. |
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
283
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:49:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Since you know,they are over powered as ****.
Buff your weak ass life 1st then well talk. |
Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
528
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:53:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
I guess you don't know me This is a picture from a ******* pub match. This is like beating a team of leg amputees in football. Thanks tips, I stopped playing PC when it turned to garbage.
Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
May we never forget his sacrifice
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1603
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:55:00 -
[43] - Quote
Wow, look at these children thinking they wear big boy pants now.
It's easy to tell who the scrubs are here and I assure you Delt isn't one of them.
Hero of the Amarrinese.
Wheeee!
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
7
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:58:00 -
[44] - Quote
RemingtonBeaver wrote:Wow, look at these children thinking they wear big boy pants now.
It's easy to tell who the scrubs are here and I assure you Delt isn't one of them.
Lol Delt is a scrub 
BRUH
Heavies are easy to take down and he is whinning about them
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1997
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:00:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Gold-Eagle wrote:I have the filling the op got killed by a heavy 20 times and got butt hurt.....
I guess you don't know me This is a picture from a ******* pub match. This is like beating a team of leg amputees in football. Thanks tips, I stopped playing PC when it turned to garbage. Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
I was in PC with not guilty/ pure innocence.
Before PC was crap.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1997
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:01:00 -
[46] - Quote
RemingtonBeaver wrote:Wow, look at these children thinking they wear big boy pants now.
It's easy to tell who the scrubs are here and I assure you Delt isn't one of them.
Thank you Beaver
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1605
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:01:00 -
[47] - Quote
Pushing Charlie wrote:
Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
Isn't your corp an NPC feeder corp?
You have no clout here.
Hero of the Amarrinese.
Wheeee!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3224
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:02:00 -
[48] - Quote
Only if you're a heavy yourself.
Stop defending your crutch, learn some gun game, and get gud.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1605
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:08:00 -
[49] - Quote
Don't try to validate your garbage attitude to me.
I don't know who you are and with the way you present yourself I'm glad I don't.
Hero of the Amarrinese.
Wheeee!
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1605
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:13:00 -
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Heavy spam is becoming predictable and obnoxious.
Hero of the Amarrinese.
Wheeee!
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
529
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:14:00 -
[51] - Quote
RemingtonBeaver wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:
Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
Isn't your corp an NPC feeder corp? You have no clout here.
My corp is literally a farming corp, I've never denied that fact, unless recruiting. My corp has also owned a district, Mossellia's has not.
What are you trying to prove here?
May we never forget his sacrifice
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1787
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:16:00 -
[52] - Quote
MLT HMG does 620dps (vs shields) or 800+dps (vs armor) with zero skill investment and no damage mods. With proficiency and damage mods these numbers only get even higher.
HMG's are doing +50% to +100% more dps than quite a few light weapons, they're also on the suit with the most HP out there, the level of entry to be 'good' with a HMG heavy it's so low its incredible. your only 'counters' are instadeath weapons or weapons that have such huge alpha (scouts can get 3 shots off in under 1.5 seconds) that you cant really contest them. Compound this with map design that forces people into small enclosed corridors to capture points 9 times out of 10 and you've got the perfect combination for 'easy mode'.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
110
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:17:00 -
[53] - Quote
They are definitely too many, I keep killing them and more keep coming and usually militia. Its very easy to play as an Heavy, with increased TTK its no surprise
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
2123
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:18:00 -
[54] - Quote
JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:My problem with hmg heavies is that there is soooo many of them.
then push for heavy weapon parity
Heavy weapon parity... When CCP Rattati.
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:20:00 -
[55] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:Since you know,they are over powered as ****.
It would be more logical to just remove them from the game. They are only a crutch after all. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1998
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:23:00 -
[56] - Quote
Pushing Charlie wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:
Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
Isn't your corp an NPC feeder corp? You have no clout here. My corp is literally a farming corp, I've never denied that fact, unless recruiting. My corp has also owned a district, Mossellia's has not. What are you trying to prove here?
Oh my, my corp has never owned a district. Please look up not guilty / pure innocence. We had about 16% of molten heath at one point.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
530
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:25:00 -
[57] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:
Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
Isn't your corp an NPC feeder corp? You have no clout here. My corp is literally a farming corp, I've never denied that fact, unless recruiting. My corp has also owned a district, Mossellia's has not. What are you trying to prove here? Oh my, my corp has never owned a district. Please look up not guilty / pure innocence. We had about 16% of molten heath at one point.
So is Mossellia your main?
May we never forget his sacrifice
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1998
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:28:00 -
[58] - Quote
Pushing Charlie wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:
Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
Isn't your corp an NPC feeder corp? You have no clout here. My corp is literally a farming corp, I've never denied that fact, unless recruiting. My corp has also owned a district, Mossellia's has not. What are you trying to prove here? Oh my, my corp has never owned a district. Please look up not guilty / pure innocence. We had about 16% of molten heath at one point. So is Mossellia your main?
It is now, my old main was Medrean Delt and I have an Alt Moselder Telend.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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Medrean Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
0
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:29:00 -
[59] - Quote
Pushing Charlie wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:
Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
Isn't your corp an NPC feeder corp? You have no clout here. My corp is literally a farming corp, I've never denied that fact, unless recruiting. My corp has also owned a district, Mossellia's has not. What are you trying to prove here? Oh my, my corp has never owned a district. Please look up not guilty / pure innocence. We had about 16% of molten heath at one point. So is Mossellia your main?
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
1484
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:39:00 -
[60] - Quote
I'm not sure whether they're OP. I lean more towards the HMG being OP than the Sentinel.
Then again, walking around a corner and seeing 3 Proto Amarr Sentinels with 1344 Armor and Proto HMGs... being repped by 2 Proto Min Logis... you do wonder what an effective counter is.
There is way too many heavies now. And that really isn't helping. We need to teach people that eHP =/= More Survivable. On paper it is, yes, which is why I assume so many noobs run around with them but a skilled player will always win against a crap heavy.
Then again, there needs to be an effective counter CQC. Shotgun isnt good enough, Knives arent, REs were a little too easy so im glad theyve been scaled back.
Having more eHP and a insta-die gun isnt fair. But an effective counter (without full racial parity), no clue.
"Why build ontop of foundations that aren't solid?"
Pilot & Assault.
Complete twat.
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
532
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:39:00 -
[61] - Quote
Then do us a favour. Stop posting pictures from pubs as soon as you're called out. It proves absolutely nothing.
If you're really as good as you say you are, then you don't need pictures to prove it.
May we never forget his sacrifice
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:41:00 -
[62] - Quote
Denchlad 7 wrote:I'm not sure whether they're OP. I lean more towards the HMG being OP than the Sentinel.
Then again, walking around a corner and seeing 3 Proto Amarr Sentinels with 1344 Armor and Proto HMGs... being repped by 2 Proto Min Logis... you do wonder what an effective counter is.
There is way too many heavies now. And that really isn't helping. We need to teach people that eHP =/= More Survivable. On paper it is, yes, which is why I assume so many noobs run around with them but a skilled player will always win against a crap heavy.
Then again, there needs to be an effective counter CQC. Shotgun isnt good enough, Knives arent, REs were a little too easy so im glad theyve been scaled back.
Having more eHP and a insta-die gun isnt fair. But an effective counter (without full racial parity), no clue.
Funny, you mention remotes and remind me of something.
My remotes can be detonated as soon as they hit the ground basically.
Choo Choo
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
1484
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:46:00 -
[63] - Quote
duster 35000 wrote:Denchlad 7 wrote:I'm not sure whether they're OP. I lean more towards the HMG being OP than the Sentinel.
Then again, walking around a corner and seeing 3 Proto Amarr Sentinels with 1344 Armor and Proto HMGs... being repped by 2 Proto Min Logis... you do wonder what an effective counter is.
There is way too many heavies now. And that really isn't helping. We need to teach people that eHP =/= More Survivable. On paper it is, yes, which is why I assume so many noobs run around with them but a skilled player will always win against a crap heavy.
Then again, there needs to be an effective counter CQC. Shotgun isnt good enough, Knives arent, REs were a little too easy so im glad theyve been scaled back.
Having more eHP and a insta-die gun isnt fair. But an effective counter (without full racial parity), no clue. Funny, you mention remotes and remind me of something. My remotes can be detonated as soon as they hit the ground basically.
Thought they were changed? Well the change was proposed, cant remember whether it was for the Balance Hotfix or Hotfix Echo. Either way, REs havent been as common lately.
"Why build ontop of foundations that aren't solid?"
Pilot & Assault.
Complete twat.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1788
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:46:00 -
[64] - Quote
Pushing Charlie wrote:Then do us a favour. Stop posting pictures from pubs as soon as you're called out. It proves absolutely nothing.
If you're really as good as you say you are, then you don't need pictures to prove it.
I've never had the chance to play with delt, but I have played against him and whatever squads he's connected with and they're relatively decent individuals. You don't need to be the best player ever to notice a problem with something.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1608
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:48:00 -
[65] - Quote
Pushing Charlie wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:
Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
Isn't your corp an NPC feeder corp? You have no clout here. My corp is literally a farming corp, I've never denied that fact, unless recruiting. My corp has also owned a district, Mossellia's has not. What are you trying to prove here?
It is obvious you're in a farming corp....potatoes is it?
I'm not trying to prove anything. You spoke out of naivete and I corrected you.
Hero of the Amarrinese.
Wheeee!
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
532
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:54:00 -
[66] - Quote
RemingtonBeaver wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:
Stopped playing PC? You never even started. If you don't have a pic of you getting a great score against a group of good players, then don't ever bring out pics in an arguement
Isn't your corp an NPC feeder corp? You have no clout here. My corp is literally a farming corp, I've never denied that fact, unless recruiting. My corp has also owned a district, Mossellia's has not. What are you trying to prove here? It is obvious you're in a farming corp....potatoes is it? I'm not trying to prove anything. You spoke out of naivete and I corrected you.
All you said is what I have said ever since I began the corp. What was there to correct?
May we never forget his sacrifice
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
9
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:57:00 -
[67] - Quote
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Only if you're a heavy yourself. Stop defending your crutch, learn some gun game, and get gud.
Lol i don't have to 
Its not a crutch
Its just me walking into objectives and defending them like a heavy should do....although walking around with 1344 armor is fun don't you denie it
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14646
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:58:00 -
[68] - Quote
Sentinels are fine, nerfing them any further would create an imbalance between ADS vs. FG engagements. Not to mention the Caldari & Matari Sentinels would become worthless.
You're real problems are with the HMG.
The 1st Matari Commando
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CPM Awox
xXEspeon's VillageXx
12
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Posted - 2014.12.21 02:02:00 -
[69] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:Since you know,they are over powered as ****.
And thank you Llyod Orfay for the 2000th like.
I disapprove. Drink quafe it will improve your gun game.
Killed again has Super-Ebola.
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
10
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Posted - 2014.12.21 02:03:00 -
[70] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Not sure who thought it would be a good idea to give Sentinels the best DPS and eHP.
Whats wrong with my amarr senitel??
im using it how its suppost to be used....bullet sponge
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6742
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Posted - 2014.12.21 02:06:00 -
[71] - Quote
To all those saying that "Heavies are fine," what would you say to Rattati when he sees data showing otherwise?
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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CPM Awox
xXEspeon's VillageXx
12
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Posted - 2014.12.21 02:07:00 -
[72] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:To all those saying that "Heavies are fine," what would you say to Rattati when he sees data showing otherwise?
Lol Hmgs are cost effective.
Killed again has Super-Ebola.
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Gold-Eagle
Y.A.M.A.H
10
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Posted - 2014.12.21 02:08:00 -
[73] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:To all those saying that "Heavies are fine," what would you say to Rattati when he sees data showing otherwise?
Haters gonna hate?
Ill cut you in half with my LAZOR LANCE
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
164
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Posted - 2014.12.21 02:10:00 -
[74] - Quote
duster 35000 wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:Ccp nerfed the hmg once again and u want another nerf to the sentinels?...... Lol I can see u 2/20.
That would be a nooby move by ccp, but knowing them nobody is safe. :) The hmg has not recieved a nerf, in like months...in irder to nerf the hmg you have to nerf the op dps, the heat changes still allow me to easily kill multiple opponents, no skill really.
HMG only applies damage in the little tiny center circle other than that they big dotted circle deals no damage
The Little Girl with the HMG
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
164
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Posted - 2014.12.21 02:12:00 -
[75] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:To all those saying that "Heavies are fine," what would you say to Rattati when he sees data showing otherwise?
Same thing when the data showed scouts are OP easy, time to adapt and change tactics
The Little Girl with the HMG
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