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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
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Posted - 2014.12.20 16:53:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:John Psi wrote:pagl1u M wrote:When the shield tankers with an Anti-armor rifle meets the armor tanker with an Anti-shield rifle, the shield tankers is a dead man.
I'm not going to prove it mathematically. I'm not going to explain why this happens, I don't know it.
It's just something I always see on the battlefield. Shield tankers must use speed and distance. ScR has one of the longest ranges in the game.
Range fights between ARR and ScR are balanced, both require gun game to win.
Troubles againts a ScR come in mid-close range, where you don't have much ease to win other than throwing nades and switching very fast from cover to cover.
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.20 17:06:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Hansei Kaizen wrote:I see some different fittings working atm:
Cal / Gal Shotgun Scouts
Min Assault + CR
Amarr Assault + ScR
Heavies of different coleur, mainly Amarr + Gal though
everything else seems not happening so much Gal assaults with damage modded ARR are a thing too altho they're not OP as much. What's really wrecking everything now is Min assaults with ARs... and ScRubs obv. Brick tanking your shotgun scout is more viable than going eWAR from what I see. Amarr sents are still getting spammed like crazy in most maps. EDIT: Balanced Shield / Armor values on a Caldari assault plus a damage mod on RR/ARR is OP too.
So true at least I can say I've been doing that since prior to the AR buff. I have no clue what they thought when they buffed the burst in the manner they did, it functions the same as a burst CR with more rounds than a min ass w/ a CR nullifying the need to use the suits bonus. It has a much more attractive profile the sights and range are similar, the only down sides I see are really just the extra fitting and CR is better against 1200+ armor sentinels.
Regular AR is still kind of meh only pull it out against scouts and shield tanked Cal assaults.
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
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Posted - 2014.12.20 17:13:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:So true at least I can say I've been doing that since prior to the AR buff. I have no clue what they thought when they buffed the burst in the manner they did, it functions the same as a burst CR with more rounds than a min ass w/ a CR nullifying the need to use the suits bonus. It has a much more attractive profile the sights and range are similar, the only down sides I see are really just the extra fitting and CR is better against 1200+ armor sentinels.
Regular AR is still kind of meh only pull it out against scouts and shield tanked Cal assaults.
I am confident the Burst AR is getting a clip size nerf because it totally nullifies the point of ScR and Breach AR's clip size nerf (I.E. reducing their damage per clip), along with what you said above.
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.20 17:20:00 -
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Clone D wrote:John Psi wrote:Shield tankers must use speed and distance. And cover, to quickly regenerate shield and get back into the action.
And let your target close the distance & gank you while your recharging.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.20 18:02:00 -
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WeapondigitX V7 wrote:Every time the shield guy exposes himself and the armor guy attacks (draining your shields) you must also attack him to do some damage (that damage may be smaller but you need to be very accurate, imagine where the enemy is while your behind cover, ''predictive wall hacking'' I call it, you predict where enemy is and fire after exposing yourself, some people do this well)
Then you rinse and repeat that shield regen process. Slowly killing him if he has less armor regen
If he has a tac AR or SCR, you must wait until another ally attacks him head on, then you attack him together, his SCR may not have enough shots to kill you both. (if your both assault suits with high shields and you don't stay still so you and the ally dodge 30% of all shots)
Or you must flank him or get behind him, your faster speed is meant to help you get to cover fast enough that he wont notice you until its too late. Then you must be very accurate to you have a 200 hp or 400 hp damage advantage. You should try to flank and attack from cover.
Ok I ll rewrite my sentence:
When 2 shield tankers with 2 Anti armor weapons meet a armor tankers with Anti shield weapons 1 of the two is a dead man. The second one can hope that the armor tankers finish his clip, otherwise he is a dead man too.
"Balance"
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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