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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.19 00:05:00 -
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Rectangular shield/armor riot shield
Std
Shield- can take 300 damage
Armor- can take 400
- light weight- quickly recharges 2 min(2:30 for armor)- ideal for scouts
Adv
Shield - can take 500 damage-
Armor-can take 600
medium weight - mid recharge 3:30 min(4 for armor)- ideal for assaults and heavies
Proto
Shield - take 700 damage-
Armor- can take 800
heavy weight - slow repair 5min(6 for armor)- ideal for
Officer
Shield/armor. 1000 total hp 8 min repair- rarest item in the game.
Mid-high pg/cpu .under cloak but a lot more than uplinks
Can only be used as equipment. No weapons while its in use. Made for breaching/infiltrating areas under fire or to block enemy Fire till its wasted.
With multiple shields/players using shields, you can block off entrances/ provide cover for someone let's say who is hacking an objective.
Pro- provides limited cover from angle it is pion tong at. Good for infiltration/ movement under heavy fire. Armor/ shield resistance bonuses apply
Con- enemies can lob grenades/plasma cannon/ mass driver over it and kill you. Armor/shield damage form weapons apply
What do you think?
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:20:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:I'm down. This would allow Sentinels a chance to cross open areas and get into close range (closer) but still not strong enough where they they can just walk through a hailstorm of gunfire unfazed.
However, I believe, like the cloak, there needs to be a mechanic put in place to delay a swap from shield from weapon and vice versa. If a Sentinel can instaswitch from an HMG to a Shield, walk through gunfire, then swap right back to an HMG and start firing, it would be ridiculously OP. There should be a delay swapping to AND from it of like 1- 1.5 seconds. Enough time so the individual can't use it as a "get out of jail free card." If you are already being fired upon, you shouldn't be able to just pull up a shield and save you from being killed. Likewise, you shouldn't be able to just sit being a shield, wait for the enemy to have to reload, then swap out and insta-gank them.
Another question. While in use would it cause a movement penalty (either x% to movement or, like crouching, not able to strafe)? Either of the two would be O.K. Since it is basically a riot shield, you can still move with it, but are unable to move as fast.
If you want to add a little flair too it, give it melee capabilities:
Shield bash. Melee range. 250 for light, 300 for medium, 350 for heavy, 400 for officer.
Sentinals don't have equipment slots, only commandos and yes never is good
48th Special Operations Force.
"As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:26:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:This should definitely be an Amarrian item. Could look a little like this. Probably a Primary Weapon. I say this so there would be justification to make it a powerful and fun play style, rather than an equipment like tool. I liked True's idea of it just absorbing a % of any damage that hits it, so that only a small percentage would reach the user. Perhaps 66%? Seems high at first, bit remember that it only works to absorb fire coming from in front, and reduces you to only hipfiring a sidearm. And some high alpha damage weapons, or splash damage weapons, would still be sending a lot of damage through the shield. The feet and head would be pretty exposed most of the time, but would become barely visible if the user crouches.
I guess but the thing would be to give you limited FULL defense. If it still lets some rounds hit you, then this is kinda no point. I mean, if it were a scout using it, he'd proba die before the shield is wasted
And it also shouldn't be op and used everywhere because that just changes the whole game. It should be used quake at the change of other mods/equipment (pg/cpu).
48th Special Operations Force.
"As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:29:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:I'm down. This would allow Sentinels a chance to cross open areas and get into close range (closer) but still not strong enough where they they can just walk through a hailstorm of gunfire unfazed.
However, I believe, like the cloak, there needs to be a mechanic put in place to delay a swap from shield from weapon and vice versa. If a Sentinel can instaswitch from an HMG to a Shield, walk through gunfire, then swap right back to an HMG and start firing, it would be ridiculously OP. There should be a delay swapping to AND from it of like 1- 1.5 seconds. Enough time so the individual can't use it as a "get out of jail free card." If you are already being fired upon, you shouldn't be able to just pull up a shield and save you from being killed. Likewise, you shouldn't be able to just sit being a shield, wait for the enemy to have to reload, then swap out and insta-gank them.
Another question. While in use would it cause a movement penalty (either x% to movement or, like crouching, not able to strafe)? Either of the two would be O.K. Since it is basically a riot shield, you can still move with it, but are unable to move as fast.
If you want to add a little flair too it, give it melee capabilities:
Shield bash. Melee range. 250 for light, 300 for medium, 350 for heavy, 400 for officer. Sentinals don't have equipment slots, only commandos and yes melee is good WOW.. I'm having a brain fart kind of day.
48th Special Operations Force.
"As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:This should definitely be an Amarrian item. Could look a little like this. Probably a Primary Weapon. I say this so there would be justification to make it a powerful and fun play style, rather than an equipment like tool. I liked True's idea of it just absorbing a % of any damage that hits it, so that only a small percentage would reach the user. Perhaps 66%? Seems high at first, bit remember that it only works to absorb fire coming from in front, and reduces you to only hipfiring a sidearm. And some high alpha damage weapons, or splash damage weapons, would still be sending a lot of damage through the shield. The feet and head would be pretty exposed most of the time, but would become barely visible if the user crouches. I guess but the thing would be to give you limited FULL defense. If it still lets some rounds hit you, then this is kinda no point. I mean, if it were a scout using it, he'd proba die before the shield is wasted And it also shouldn't be op and used everywhere because that just changes the whole game. It should be used quake at the change of other mods/equipment (pg/cpu). Well why you are using a Riot Shield on a Scout is beyond me. It would be the least efficient use of one.
Why not use it? It can come in handy for ANY dropsuit (except Sentinals) when trying to escape a blaster tank while taking fire. You can strafe and jump as the shield takes the rounds as you find cover
48th Special Operations Force.
"As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.19 01:49:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:. You can strafe and jump as the shield takes the rounds as you find cover To me, this is just more of a reason for the shield to block a percentage of damage, and reduce mobility. Strafing scouts are already a problem for hit detection, and you expect that strafing scout that you can't damage would be OK? That would be practical god-troll mode. "Jumping around and strafing" is not something an Amarrian item would be used for. At all. It would be a stand and deliver tool/weapon. It would be heavy and it would slow you down, not provide you with invincibility as you jump across them map like a ******.
I mean, I only thought of the gal/cal versions, I guess I can also do all races with an amarr shield being you SUPER tanker SUPER slow regen so that it can be heavy and provide a more stand and deliver type of use. The MINMATAR could have a shield that is very weak but regens so fast. Our hit and run type of thing. I'll provide my art of my ideas and post them. As well as a spread sheet some time this week. I haut want info from CCP if they like this and if it can be added in the future
48th Special Operations Force.
"As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.19 11:33:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Cool.. But I think the HP values are low. I mean a proto shield would get destroyed in 1 sec by a HMG and take 5 min to recharge?
Well, I don't want them to be so over used that you increase ttk by dozens of seconds more, only because everyone is running around with shields, but again, I'll make my art for all races and a spreadsheet if CCP might add them in the future.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.19 22:28:00 -
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It also has bonuses
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.20 04:04:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:So, ignoring my post about Sentinels, what about the other 2 points I mentioned?
While in use would it cause a movement penalty (either x% to movement or, like crouching, not able to sprint)? Either of the two would be O.K. Since it is basically a riot shield, you can still move with it, but are unable to move as fast.
If you want to add a little flair too it, give it melee capabilities:
Shield bash. Melee range. 250 for light, 300 for medium, 350 for heavy, 400 for officer.
Sorry. Yes melee. Think of it as applying armor and it has little to medium side to side movement penalty. And again, Sentinals don't have equipment slot. They have to much hp to use them. That's what logis are for.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.22 11:36:00 -
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Sooooooo.... Anyone?
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