DUST Search - The packed remote explosives appear to do zero damage

RayRay James wrote:

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

RayRay James wrote:

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

we are using a new faith based QA system Blink

You really shouldn't though, the player base including the CPM do not have access to all skills and therefore all equipment layouts.

We need a public test server will all skills if you aren't going to test things yourselves.

That's why we won't ever leave balance hell and see a finished product.

Basing your system on feedback works for most other fps lobby games as they don't have a 7 year grind mechanic built in to access all possible loadouts. Someone needs to play test things and the player base can't do that properly.

That's why I opposed the idea of an elected CPM and really any CPM for this game, because they can't possibly understand how to balance what they have no access to.

Wow, the joke wen't over your head so far I think it left orbit.

What joke? That is exactly how they handle balance right now, feeback. That's like if I said, "Christmas, why that's only a week away!" *Wink Wink* amidoinjokesrite? Stating the obvious isn't a joke.

You really believe that they just say "Eh, looks good. PUSH IT OUT!" without doing any internal testing?

What am I doing? I need to stop feeding the trolls.

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Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1066	Posted - 2014.12.18 08:21:00 - [1] - Quote Which is a big shame, because I was really looking forward to them. I put them on several tanks and LAVs and they didn't do anything. Am I wrong? Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 431	Posted - 2014.12.18 09:24:00 - [2] - Quote Seems the 0.1m blast radius is not enough. I may not have a mic, but trust me, you NEED me in your squad if you want to win. When I'm on a roll, I'm unstoppable.
Orber Gen Academy Inferno E-R-A 262	Posted - 2014.12.18 09:29:00 - [3] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Seems the 0.1m blast radius is not enough. We tested it - it can't even scratch RE that placed directly on packed one. 0.1m in dust is nothing.
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1392	Posted - 2014.12.18 09:37:00 - [4] - Quote Lol. The hitbox that determines how an RE is placed on a vehicle must be larger than the hitbox that determines damage taken to the vehicle... The explosion isnt even reaching the vehicle, even though its placed directly on it. Should be an easy fix though. Just bump the explosion radius to 0.2m. Please, make my Opus pretty...
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1067	Posted - 2014.12.18 11:24:00 - [5] - Quote It also doesn't work against infantry either. I placed 3 at my feet and took no damage. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2847	Posted - 2014.12.18 11:58:00 - [6] - Quote And we wonder why we have all of these random problems in the game..... clearly something is amiss somewhere in regards to hit boxes and radius related stuff. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 102	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:17:00 - [7] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lol. The hitbox that determines how an RE is placed on a vehicle must be larger than the hitbox that determines damage taken to the vehicle... The explosion isnt even reaching the vehicle, even though its placed directly on it. Should be an easy fix though. Just bump the explosion radius to 0.2m. 0.3m just in case should do it. Choo Choo
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1150	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:01:00 - [8] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: And we wonder why we have all of these random problems in the game..... clearly something is amiss somewhere in regards to hit boxes and radius related stuff. Pretty much every range in this game is half of the actual value. It's why passive scanning is awful and always was for non-Scouts before. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair Learning Alliance 277	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:02:00 - [9] - Quote You expected something to work correctly in dust? Robin Williams endorses this corp

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13874	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:38:00 - [10] - Quote patched today "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2584	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:53:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: patched today so we are right in assumiing not a single CCP employee actually tryed to use these before they were put into the game? Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 102	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:00:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: patched today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY Choo Choo
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1598	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:03:00 - [13] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: patched today so we are right in assumiing not a single CCP employee actually tryed to use these before they were put into the game? Ouch... Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13878	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:03:00 - [14] - Quote we are using a new faith based QA system "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 468	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:05:00 - [15] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: patched today so we are right in assumiing not a single CCP employee actually tryed to use these before they were put into the game? They can lie how many times they want, they never tried a single update. They font even play the game (add some CCP * in your contact and laugh at their stats.) Assault, Logi, Scout, Heavy.. What do you need?
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2849	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:05:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we are using faith FTFY Clearly misplaced Amarrian faith at that "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2585	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:05:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system "new" NEWtm is now a thing Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5666	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:17:00 - [18] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: They can lie how many times they want, they never tried a single update. They won't even play the game (add some CCP * in your contact and laugh at their stats.) They play alts so tools can't track them My advice to you, playa...
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2585	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:20:00 - [19] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: They can lie how many times they want, they never tried a single update. They won't even play the game (add some CCP * in your contact and laugh at their stats.) They play alts so tools can't track them unless you know the names of their alts :P i know someone who collects that kinda info but no they dont run the final code before it gets shipped to sony, i expect its always a mad dash of slapping code together written by different people trying to meet a last second deadline to include a tiny detail here or there, no money for QA that isnt attached to sony via contract requirement. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 468	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:21:00 - [20] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: They can lie how many times they want, they never tried a single update. They won't even play the game (add some CCP * in your contact and laugh at their stats.) They play alts so tools can't track them They put every BW at 9 Mb on every single suits when releasing it. Assault, Logi, Scout, Heavy.. What do you need?

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5666	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:22:00 - [21] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Unless you know the names of their alts :P i know someone who collects that kinda info If it is BAMM or Pyrex, I have bad news, it's probably ****-info... or shinfo as some would call it. My advice to you, playa...
Ld Collins Titans of Phoenix 178	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:23:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system Where is the buff to Proximity explosives :( 750 damage is not enough.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2585	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:25:00 - [23] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Unless you know the names of their alts :P i know someone who collects that kinda info If it is BAMM or Pyrex, I have bad news, it's probably ****-info... or shinfo as some would call it. its not :P Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 720	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:26:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system You really shouldn't though, the player base including the CPM do not have access to all skills and therefore all equipment layouts. We need a public test server will all skills if you aren't going to test things yourselves. That's why we won't ever leave balance hell and see a finished product. Basing your system on feedback works for most other fps lobby games as they don't have a 7 year grind mechanic built in to access all possible loadouts. Someone needs to play test things and the player base can't do that properly. That's why I opposed the idea of an elected CPM and really any CPM for this game, because they can't possibly understand how to balance what they have no access to.
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix 844	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:32:00 - [25] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system You really shouldn't though, the player base including the CPM do not have access to all skills and therefore all equipment layouts. We need a public test server will all skills if you aren't going to test things yourselves. That's why we won't ever leave balance hell and see a finished product. Basing your system on feedback works for most other fps lobby games as they don't have a 7 year grind mechanic built in to access all possible loadouts. Someone needs to play test things and the player base can't do that properly. That's why I opposed the idea of an elected CPM and really any CPM for this game, because they can't possibly understand how to balance what they have no access to. Wow, the joke wen't over your head so far I think it left orbit.
Orber Gen Academy Inferno E-R-A 262	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:34:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system http://terletsky.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/image/humor/george-carlin-svyatost-zhizni-i-smertnaya-kazn.jpg
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 722	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:08:00 - [27] - Quote RayRay James wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system You really shouldn't though, the player base including the CPM do not have access to all skills and therefore all equipment layouts. We need a public test server will all skills if you aren't going to test things yourselves. That's why we won't ever leave balance hell and see a finished product. Basing your system on feedback works for most other fps lobby games as they don't have a 7 year grind mechanic built in to access all possible loadouts. Someone needs to play test things and the player base can't do that properly. That's why I opposed the idea of an elected CPM and really any CPM for this game, because they can't possibly understand how to balance what they have no access to. Wow, the joke wen't over your head so far I think it left orbit. What joke? That is exactly how they handle balance right now, feeback. That's like if I said, "Christmas, why that's only a week away!" Wink Wink amidoinjokesrite? Stating the obvious isn't a joke.
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix 847	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:27:00 - [28] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: RayRay James wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system You really shouldn't though, the player base including the CPM do not have access to all skills and therefore all equipment layouts. We need a public test server will all skills if you aren't going to test things yourselves. That's why we won't ever leave balance hell and see a finished product. Basing your system on feedback works for most other fps lobby games as they don't have a 7 year grind mechanic built in to access all possible loadouts. Someone needs to play test things and the player base can't do that properly. That's why I opposed the idea of an elected CPM and really any CPM for this game, because they can't possibly understand how to balance what they have no access to. Wow, the joke wen't over your head so far I think it left orbit. What joke? That is exactly how they handle balance right now, feeback. That's like if I said, "Christmas, why that's only a week away!" Wink Wink amidoinjokesrite? Stating the obvious isn't a joke. You really believe that they just say "Eh, looks good. PUSH IT OUT!" without doing any internal testing? What am I doing? I need to stop feeding the trolls.
Union118 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 100	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:56:00 - [29] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Which is a big shame, because I was really looking forward to them. I put them on several tanks and LAVs and they didn't do anything. Am I wrong? Good. REs need to have a charge time or something. You dont just Throw n blow up. REs take time to set up. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Union118 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 100	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:57:00 - [30] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Which is a big shame, because I was really looking forward to them. I put them on several tanks and LAVs and they didn't do anything. Am I wrong? Good. REs need to have a charge time or something. You dont just Throw n blow up. REs take time to set up. They also need to show up on radar like a nade. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)

Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4258	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:15:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system Luv u "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 476	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:35:00 - [32] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: patched today so we are right in assumiing not a single CCP employee actually tryed to use these before they were put into the game? They don't even have a test server for Dust :I Which is why every update has big abundance of bugs and new items either work, are inneffective or too OP at launch. They moat likely toss in numbers that sound good and use us as guinea pigs to see how it all goes until coming to a final conclusion. Side effects of playing Dust: Emotional trauma, Anger Management issues, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and Depression
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 726	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:24:00 - [33] - Quote RayRay James wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: RayRay James wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system You really shouldn't though, the player base including the CPM do not have access to all skills and therefore all equipment layouts. We need a public test server will all skills if you aren't going to test things yourselves. That's why we won't ever leave balance hell and see a finished product. Basing your system on feedback works for most other fps lobby games as they don't have a 7 year grind mechanic built in to access all possible loadouts. Someone needs to play test things and the player base can't do that properly. That's why I opposed the idea of an elected CPM and really any CPM for this game, because they can't possibly understand how to balance what they have no access to. Wow, the joke wen't over your head so far I think it left orbit. What joke? That is exactly how they handle balance right now, feeback. That's like if I said, "Christmas, why that's only a week away!" Wink Wink amidoinjokesrite? Stating the obvious isn't a joke. You really believe that they just say "Eh, looks good. PUSH IT OUT!" without doing any internal testing? What am I doing? I need to stop feeding the trolls. You must be new here... (Looks at past fopahs on upates like the Gallente tanks on crack in 1.7.)
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1071	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:53:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: patched today pâ+a++a¦ê+ä-£a¦êa++n+ë Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 3472	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:08:00 - [35] - Quote Not fixed Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 3472	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:10:00 - [36] - Quote but you can suicide with them at range. Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1388	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:44:00 - [37] - Quote CCP has the best QA system possible, they toss it to us and see what gets bitched about more. It is amazingly efficient considering the fact that we constantly overlook more than half of things added not working properly for the first few days. Why would they pay for test servers and QA people when we do it for free day in and day out? This is why I am so anxious for Legion, maybe we will be able to get a test server there so that player based QA can be done before it is live code and we are screwing up our stats, burning ISK, and spending SP.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1964	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:58:00 - [38] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: And we wonder why we have all of these random problems in the game..... clearly something is amiss somewhere in regards to hit boxes and radius related stuff. And here I thought we've been complaining about that for 2 years just to fck with CCP. Ghosts Chance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: patched today so we are right in assumiing not a single CCP employee actually tryed to use these before they were put into the game? We don't assume, we know they don't test the patches before setting them loose. There's always at least one but usually more glaringly obvious problems that are noticed by players within the 1st 10 minutes of playing the game after a patch drops. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they actually do have a QA department but those mofos are likely so drunk that they're hallucinating. [RYJC]
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16122	Posted - 2014.12.18 22:15:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system The Empress would be proud! *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1608	Posted - 2014.12.18 22:17:00 - [40] - Quote duster 35000 wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lol. The hitbox that determines how an RE is placed on a vehicle must be larger than the hitbox that determines damage taken to the vehicle... The explosion isnt even reaching the vehicle, even though its placed directly on it. Should be an easy fix though. Just bump the explosion radius to 0.2m. 0.3m just in case should do it. That, in fact, is very close to real life 0,1m. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change

Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7502	Posted - 2014.12.18 22:21:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system The 'new'..? You sure about that? Long-Term Roadmap More Hard Questions
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1214	Posted - 2014.12.19 02:04:00 - [42] - Quote yeahhhh... still not working. I just ducked and weaved through a handful of people like a ninja badass and tossed two of these packed REs on a sica, using the confused tank as cover, before unloading my PLC and an AV grenade, then switching back to my packed RE to detonate and finish him off. All he had left was 1500 armor, my REs were gonna vaporize him with over 4000 effective damage! BEEP poof "Wtf?" Then I got mowed down by a heavy as I stood staring slack-jawed at the unharmed tank feels bad man
The-Errorist 930	Posted - 2014.12.21 23:32:00 - [43] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are using a new faith based QA system Where is the buff to Proximity explosives :( 750 damage is not enough. I agree. MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill AKA Enkouyami (Main PSN).
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1155	Posted - 2014.12.22 00:07:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: patched today It was "patched" and standard Packed R/Es are still 15,000 ISK? I don't believe you. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Learning Coalition Mentor // Bug Vaporizer


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