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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2014.12.18 00:29:00 -
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If I remember correctly it shoots beams of light.
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Makuta Miserix
DOD - Fringe Division
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Posted - 2014.12.18 00:30:00 -
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There is this little thing called "game balance" okay? 
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2014.12.18 00:33:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:There is this little thing called "game balance" okay?
No durr. I should have been more clear. Is there a way to explain it lore wise?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.18 00:40:00 -
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Does it have recoil?
I was under the impression that the "recoil" was strictly visual.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.12.18 00:55:00 -
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Shoots neutron beams which have mass; also light has mass and according to physics laser weaponry would also have recoil and kick.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.18 00:58:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote: If I remember correctly it shoots beams of light.
Not sure. Not only it has recoil. It has MORE recoil than other light weapons. The Breach AR, the CR....etc...
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.12.18 01:06:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:There is this little thing called "game balance" okay?
I thought the balance was that it hits like a flaccid noodle against armor
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.12.18 01:10:00 -
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It has coolant that shoots up and down the barrel really fast giving recoil.
Also light has mass. If it is being dispensed fast enough we can see it in broad day light then I don't think having recoil is out of the question.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 01:30:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shoots neutron beams which have mass; also light has mass and according to physics laser weaponry would also have recoil and kick. Just most of the energy is heat instead of force.
No.
It does not shoot neutron beams.
Its an electrolaser.
It fires a preliminary laser that turns a channel of the atmosphere into plasma, then uses the plasma to send a pulse of electricity through it because plasma is more conductive to electricity than atmosphere. Its a lightning gun.
So, it wouldnt actually have any noticeable recoil, realistically.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.18 01:40:00 -
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Because this is a video game.
Next you'll be asking why you can't destroy an entire district with an 80GJ Railgun. 
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.12.18 01:49:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shoots neutron beams which have mass; also light has mass and according to physics laser weaponry would also have recoil and kick. Just most of the energy is heat instead of force. No. It does not shoot neutron beams. Its an electrolaser. It fires a preliminary laser that turns a channel of the atmosphere into plasma, then uses the plasma to send a pulse of electricity through it because plasma is more conductive to electricity than atmosphere. Its a lightning gun. So, it wouldnt actually have any noticeable recoil, realistically.
Sadly the scrambler shots have notable travel speed and trackable speed akin to the plasma rifle and rail rifle. Something light wouldn't have like the laser rifle would.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 02:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shoots neutron beams which have mass; also light has mass and according to physics laser weaponry would also have recoil and kick. Just most of the energy is heat instead of force.
It doesn't have mass...It acts as if it has mass by having the properties of momentum.
Wave particle duality bro.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
1390
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Posted - 2014.12.18 03:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:...the scrambler shots have notable travel speed...
No. Just... no.
All the rifles are hitscan. Every one of them.
Unless you are talking about the visual effect, which is just the plasma trail dissipating.
That's what that is for all the laser weapons. The plasma trail. You aren't seeing the actual light pass through the air, since that isn't how light works. Its traveling in one direction, and unless that direction is into your eyes, you aren't seeing the beam of light, only the plasma it creates as it heats the air it passes through.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.12.18 05:09:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:...the scrambler shots have notable travel speed... No. Just... no. All the rifles are hitscan. Every one of them. Unless you are talking about the visual effect, which is just the plasma trail dissipating. That's what that is for all the laser weapons. The plasma trail. You aren't seeing the actual light pass through the air, since that isn't how light works. Its traveling in one direction, and unless that direction is into your eyes, you aren't seeing the beam of light, only the plasma it creates as it heats the air it passes through.
Still despite hit scan game mechanics; there is still a bullet travel animation.
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Izlare Lenix
Pub Stars
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Posted - 2014.12.18 05:28:00 -
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The ascr had much less recoil than the scr. Especially ADS.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 05:41:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:...the scrambler shots have notable travel speed... No. Just... no. All the rifles are hitscan. Every one of them. Unless you are talking about the visual effect, which is just the plasma trail dissipating. That's what that is for all the laser weapons. The plasma trail. You aren't seeing the actual light pass through the air, since that isn't how light works. Its traveling in one direction, and unless that direction is into your eyes, you aren't seeing the beam of light, only the plasma it creates as it heats the air it passes through. Still despite hit scan game mechanics; there is still a bullet travel animation.
Alright, I just got done spending an entire match shorting an ScR at various speed and in various different lighting conditions.
I can safely conclude that there is absolutely no visual travel speed for the bullet. A sterak just appears through the air and quickly fades away.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
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Posted - 2014.12.18 08:40:00 -
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You see, light travels in waves right? It's not straight beam yeah?
And when you shoot the ASCR, the light coming out of it comes out all wobbly (as I explained earlier), thus causing the recoil.
Easypeasy.
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.12.18 09:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Because this is a video game. Next you'll be asking why you can't destroy an entire district with an 80GJ Railgun. that would actually be kind of funny to just destroy someone's district with an 80GJ Railgun if a boiling argument between one another come to a disagreement.
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.18 11:34:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shoots neutron beams which have mass; also light has mass and according to physics laser weaponry would also have recoil and kick. Just most of the energy is heat instead of force. No. It does not shoot neutron beams. Its an electrolaser. It fires a preliminary laser that turns a channel of the atmosphere into plasma, then uses the plasma to send a pulse of electricity through it because plasma is more conductive to electricity than atmosphere. Its a lightning gun. So, it wouldnt actually have any noticeable recoil, realistically.
So you're saying that Amarr is secretly Gallente?.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:00:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote: If I remember correctly it shoots beams of light.
And Rail sniper rifles should have no problems hitting targets over several kilometers while lore wise our rail tanks should send objects hurtling several maps away while sending the turrets in the opposite direction. It's the same reason why gallente are not armor reppers and are instead identical to the Amarr currently. Because game balance. |
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