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Drake Whiteblade
machines of war
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Posted - 2014.12.17 15:53:00 -
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So my last post got mixed feelings in people so i decided to create a new idea.
Since armor plating is going to get nerfed sentinels are going to get a big hit. So what i say is that the base armor, shielding and resistances are increased.
Now, i know people are saying "The hmg is op. nerf. The do so much damage, nerf." And i agree, the hmg is op. But my problem with sentinels is that they are easy to kill with smaller suits. If they get the resistances and and armor and shield they need, the hmgs damage can be nerfed with no worries.
A sentinel should be wall between medium and light suits, not the damage dealer of the battlefield. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4023
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Posted - 2014.12.17 15:56:00 -
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To be fair, not all Sentinels will be affected by the changes to armor plates.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Drake Whiteblade
machines of war
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:03:00 -
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Yes all heavys arent affected but most are (minmatar is usually a armor tanker) and i swear i read the plates were given less hp but i might have missed the post saying that they arent.
But i still think less damage, more armor. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4023
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:11:00 -
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I guarantee you that most Caldari Sentinels do not use armor plates.
But yes, I could see a decrease to HMG damage and an increase to survivability. The issue with this of course is the Forge Gun, since Forge Guns are rarely used against infantry (and if they are its from up high from range where they're not taking damage anyways). There is little reason to nerf them, yet you don't and increase Sentinel defenses, then that can cause further issues, particularly for vehicles. This is why we really need a Heavy Frame that is focused around attacking with heavy weapons...
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
5457
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:12:00 -
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Drake Whiteblade wrote:So my last post got mixed feelings in people so i decided to create a new idea.
Since armor plating is going to get nerfed sentinels are going to get a big hit. So what i say is that the base armor, shielding and resistances are increased.
Now, i know people are saying "The hmg is op. nerf. The do so much damage, nerf." And i agree, the hmg is op. But my problem with sentinels is that they are easy to kill with smaller suits. If they get the resistances and and armor and shield they need, the hmgs damage can be nerfed with no worries.
A sentinel should be wall between medium and light suits, not the damage dealer of the battlefield.
No
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Drake Whiteblade
machines of war
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:56:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:I guarantee you that most Caldari Sentinels do not use armor plates.
But yes, I could see a decrease to HMG damage and an increase to survivability. The issue with this of course is the Forge Gun, since Forge Guns are rarely used against infantry (and if they are its from up high from range where they're not taking damage anyways). There is little reason to nerf them, yet you don't and increase Sentinel defenses, then that can cause further issues, particularly for vehicles. This is why we really need a Heavy Frame that is focused around attacking with heavy weapons...
I ment that as a race most heavies are affected, gal, amarr and minmatar are usuallly focused on armor. And i honestly dont get your point with the problem of forge guns. A good tanker can kill a forger easily and a good forger can do the same. |
Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
209
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Posted - 2014.12.17 17:18:00 -
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One of the things i don't really get about heavies is how the sentinel reads like an anti vehicle platform, yet one of the currently available weapons it pretty much useless against vehicles but mows down infantry (HMG) and the other can be used against both (forge).
As well as weapon parity is there any chance of weapon purpose being looked at? Is there meant to be 2 heavy weapons per race - one primarily AV and one AI? whats the deal CCP?
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4025
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Posted - 2014.12.17 17:23:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:One of the things i don't really get about heavies is how the sentinel reads like an anti vehicle platform, yet one of the currently available weapons it pretty much useless against vehicles but mows down infantry (HMG) and the other can be used against both (forge).
As well as weapon parity is there any chance of weapon purpose being looked at? Is there meant to be 2 heavy weapons per race - one primarily AV and one AI? whats the deal CCP?
I imagine this was the original intention to have 2 Heavy Weapons per race, but obviously they didn't allocate the resources to it before FanFest happened.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Jacques Cayton II
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1245
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:36:00 -
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Drake Whiteblade wrote:So my last post got mixed feelings in people so i decided to create a new idea.
Since armor plating is going to get nerfed sentinels are going to get a big hit. So what i say is that the base armor, shielding and resistances are increased.
Now, i know people are saying "The hmg is op. nerf. The do so much damage, nerf." And i agree, the hmg is op. But my problem with sentinels is that they are easy to kill with smaller suits. If they get the resistances and and armor and shield they need, the hmgs damage can be nerfed with no worries.
A sentinel should be wall between medium and light suits, not the damage dealer of the battlefield.
No no no
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
210
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Posted - 2014.12.17 19:18:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Lady MDK wrote:One of the things i don't really get about heavies is how the sentinel reads like an anti vehicle platform, yet one of the currently available weapons it pretty much useless against vehicles but mows down infantry (HMG) and the other can be used against both (forge).
As well as weapon parity is there any chance of weapon purpose being looked at? Is there meant to be 2 heavy weapons per race - one primarily AV and one AI? whats the deal CCP?
I imagine this was the original intention to have 2 Heavy Weapons per race, but obviously they didn't allocate the resources to it before FanFest happened.
CCP, if this is the case can we have these weapons before you consider adding extra tanks? Or at least at the same time.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4028
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Posted - 2014.12.17 19:35:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Lady MDK wrote:One of the things i don't really get about heavies is how the sentinel reads like an anti vehicle platform, yet one of the currently available weapons it pretty much useless against vehicles but mows down infantry (HMG) and the other can be used against both (forge).
As well as weapon parity is there any chance of weapon purpose being looked at? Is there meant to be 2 heavy weapons per race - one primarily AV and one AI? whats the deal CCP?
I imagine this was the original intention to have 2 Heavy Weapons per race, but obviously they didn't allocate the resources to it before FanFest happened. CCP, if this is the case can we have these weapons before you consider adding extra tanks? Or at least at the same time.
I think just adding an Anti-Shield Heavy weapon would be sufficient in the short term.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1783
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Posted - 2014.12.17 20:29:00 -
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Drake Whiteblade wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:I guarantee you that most Caldari Sentinels do not use armor plates.
But yes, I could see a decrease to HMG damage and an increase to survivability. The issue with this of course is the Forge Gun, since Forge Guns are rarely used against infantry (and if they are its from up high from range where they're not taking damage anyways). There is little reason to nerf them, yet you don't and increase Sentinel defenses, then that can cause further issues, particularly for vehicles. This is why we really need a Heavy Frame that is focused around attacking with heavy weapons... I ment that as a race most heavies are affected, gal, amarr and minmatar are usuallly focused on armor. And i honestly dont get your point with the problem of forge guns. A good tanker can kill a forger easily and a good forger can do the same.
Minmatar are shield tankers, people only armor tank them in dust cause armor > shields in dust.
In eve minmatar ships usually have bonuses to shield booster boost values, getting about 40% more hp per cycle than any other race - I have literally seen a minmatar ship get 3000 shield hp back with one button press (and be capable of doing it every 2 seconds for seven more pulses before they needed to reload charges).
Note that I'm not saying no minmatar ship is ever armor tanked in eve because there are fringe situations where even caldari armor tank or gallente / amarr shield tank (scorpion, Ishtar, curse/pilgrim/arbitrator) but I am saying that if its minmatar it's incredibly likely to be shield tanked.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
497
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Posted - 2014.12.18 02:50:00 -
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This isn't an RPG with the holy trinity of Tank/Healer/DPS (At least it shouldn't be....) |
Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
540
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Posted - 2014.12.18 07:29:00 -
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Thank you
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