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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1595
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Posted - 2014.12.28 16:20:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Any other proxy users care to chime in?
I use to use them but stopped when they changed bandwidth .
In my mind bandwidth sucks .
Yes , I play logi and have played with all of them maxed and with EQ maxed for there roles as well and now I just feel so hampered and now I see far more logi's then before .
I use to set traps with PE's because I had them maxed , then I would go and lay some links and help out with heavies with reps or swarm and forge . Just can't do that anymore and it's killing my chances of winning matches .
I can logi , lay PE's and traps but your not going to kill anything with 4 or 5 ... I would set 8 and have a better time at it and have it look like a real minefield ... to me that's the best way and most effective , see tanks or DS's putting pressure on my team and now I can't switch to a forge to suppress them because my EQ will pop .
If I have hives and links out and were getting stomped by heavies , can't switch to help counter because my EQ will pop .
I play logi so all you with your " holier then thou " attitude can keep that and point it in another direction , I know how to place links , I know how to rep and place hives where there a help and in situations that would benefit my squad but if your lacking in one department and need help in another , now I can't help because my hands are tied and if were being overwhelmed , I find myself taking to a sniper rifle half the time because I just can't afford to have my PE's , links or hives popping but if were being overwhelmed then that EQ is worthless in some area's but prime in others so to help as much as I can I can't leave my logi suit which kills the potential to help in other area's .
Now I can't lay too many PE's , links or hives because of bandwidth ... having and using all PRO EQ doesn't help either .
Sorry for going off topic Clone D but I just don't like bandwidth but there's nothing that I can do but live with it and the fact that I know that I could help out more but most of the time , my hands are just tied because of bandwidth .
I just started using the Gal logi and that's prob the worst of all the logi's that I've used because most can get under the most powerful scanners and I can actually pick up signature's without the scanner because I use e-war mods , it just seem like a worthless bonus but that's just my opinion , I'm not going to overload myself with 2 or 3 scanners that do the exact same thing while hindering my potential to rep , place hives , links and PE's .
I know many like it and me being solo most of the time thought that it made since but it just seem worthless .
If scouts couldn't get under the best and most expensive scanner then it might be worth it , you really don't have to fully commit all e-war to do it either , it's been talked about and discussed already .
Just doesn't seem worth it .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1595
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Posted - 2014.12.28 16:29:00 -
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Clone D wrote:I have been having a difficult time using proximity explosives and continuing the match effectively afterward.
Eight is the most I can deploy and still find something useful to do.
I would like to be able to deploy 15 again.
IKR , that's what I USED TO DO .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1595
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Posted - 2014.12.28 16:33:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:I, as the most veteran proxy mine user of all Dust, initially thought:
"well it's reasonable to let Proxies have some bandwidth. There'll be room for some extra. It might work. And it can be tuned down."
Now I've given initial patch the benefit of the doubt.
It's true that bandwidth limits the logi too much. Even when deploying a full field 4-5-6 twice, totaling 15 proxies you should take care to set up the replenishment hive first.
Even after that, you have minimal room for anything - your logi suit can do nothing else to support the team. Those proxies tend to stay on ground for LONG. they are not used like hives or REs, not even links. The worst, a single proxy does nothing, there HAS to be at least two full sets down. All out for a good half of the match.
And don't even think about changing suit.
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1595
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Posted - 2014.12.28 16:52:00 -
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You are not the end all and see all of all logistics so please stop Mee .
Yes you have good ideals but you squad and knock most players who speak about there efforts , trying to knock them down off your high horse .
I'm not the only one who feels the way that I do and if that's the case then maybe you should take the time to come up with creative solutions instead of ACTING like your some super logi guru or something .
You squad , I solo .
I think what I do is far more harder then what you do because you have numbers backing you to make it easier and help .
When I play , I'm trying to help 16 not 6 .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1595
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Posted - 2014.12.28 17:00:00 -
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Another thing , if this topic is up for discussion and it seems like everyday some one else is chiming in about it , then it must be something to it .
Yes there are some who just don't like the idea but they can respec and get out if they choose , like I said I play logistics , have use all logi's and if this wasn't the role for me and with all the respec's that I had then I would have known that by now .
The system needs reworking .
You still see eq spam but from multiple players now so there's no difference .
Some matches you see no EQ because most are playing scout and heavy or assault for the match , I come across them from time to time , where I'm the only logi on my team .
How about we look at this whole system all over again and see what can be done to make it better .
Not like CCP has been implementing mechanics in this game that were not flawed in some sort of way and this is not the first .
I just don't think that this was created to kill the spam more then kill the abilities of a logi to perform multiple tasks .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1598
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Posted - 2014.12.28 18:30:00 -
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I understand you Mee but most of the matches that I'm in I loose because I can't help like I would like to .
5's all over the board but can't make a clear cut difference anymore in a match where most of the time the team that I'm playing against is stacked and mine is lacking for the most part from most wearing MLT suits .
It's hard to fight against PRO players when I'm on a team of 16 and 4 is a possible PRO against a team of 16 where they field a squad and 8 are PRO players .
Yes I use to try to do too much .
I would start off a game for the most part , rushing the first objective to hack , lay PE's as a trap for oncoming vehicles , move to fly and lay links then , medic it up and helping with hives .
If I see were getting rushed by heavies and scouts then I would switch to heavy to counter because like I said , most are wearing MLT suits on my team so I already understand that it's going to be tough , switching to that or forging DS / ADS and HAV's but now that's not happening because of bandwidth .
I can live with that if the matches were more even but anyone who plays pubs solo knows better then that .
Now I just can't help like I'm able to and became use to , so where I could be somewhat of a crutch for those who were and are lacking , that's just a no go anymore and it can be frustrating at times .
I stay broke and that's part of the reason that I can't vehicle like I use to because vehicle use is a rich man's / woman's role .
It's hard to make money when one plays on teams that are full of MLT players .
I'm not knocking new players / alts but were pretty much in the same boat because I can help but if I die 4 to 5 times then I'm at a loss and they just don't have the abilities to counter a well thought out strategy in play from a competent squad and just one squad does it most of the time when your on a team littered with MLT .
Being a logi in a match I'm going to die 4 to 5 times because most players that are random just don't protect logi's or value them too much and I don't have enough fire power to kill groups of scouts and heavies which I'm not complaining about .
I just don't like to loose but loosing when I know that I could have done more is much worst .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1599
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Posted - 2014.12.28 19:43:00 -
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I don't want the PRO squad mates , I just wish that the matches would become more even sided .
I could care lees about PRO because I barely use it myself as far as suits .
It would just be nice to have more matches that were not one sided IMO .
It would be nice to not have my hands tied when and in helping my team mates when I know and the game dictates that the team that I'm on is lacking .
Just have to live with that and make use of what I CAN do .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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