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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3999
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Posted - 2014.12.16 19:16:00 -
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Just doing some basic comparison of Gunnlogis and Madrugars in terms of effective HP regeneration for base and typical fit conditions.
Gunnlogi Shield delay to be assumed 4 seconds (Non-depleted)
Madrugar Shield delay to be assumed at 11 seconds (Depleted with max skill - base is 15 seconds)
Gunnlogi Assumed to have no armor modules (Atypical)
Madrugar Assumed to have no shield modules
Gunnlogi Assumed to be fit with 2 Complex Hardeners + 1 Complex Heavy Shield Extender
Madrugar Assumed to be fit with 1 Complex Hardener + 1 Complex 120mm Armor Plate + (Basic/Enhanced/Complex) Heavy Armor Rep
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KPXFzLUtbfpCLyCjAoDnoML7L8Nh7VZXMF1Bdhqajdo/edit?usp=sharing
-Summary-
Base Gunnlogi
Time to Full shield Recharge: 20 seconds
Fitted Gunnlogi
Time to Full Shield Recharge: 28 seconds
Madrugar w/Basic Heavy Rep
Time to Full Shield Recharge: 23 Seconds
Time to Full Armor Regeneration (Base): 40 seconds
Time to Full Armor Regeneration (Fitted): 59 seconds
Madrugar w/Enhanced Heavy Rep
Time to Full Shield Recharge: 23 Seconds
Time to Full Armor Regeneration (Base): 36 seconds
Time to Full Armor Regeneration (Fitted): 53 seconds
Madrugar w/Complex Heavy Rep
Time to Full Shield Recharge: 23 Seconds
Time to Full Armor Regeneration (Base): 30 seconds
Time to Full Armor Regeneration (Fitted): 43 seconds
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3999
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Posted - 2014.12.16 19:36:00 -
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Lazer Fo Cused wrote:
14. Cant make a thread without taking in other factors when it comes to tanking
Aww its my favorite grumpy cat!
But really, you seem like you're assuming I'm offering up a specific opinion in this thread, which I'm not. I'm simply offering up raw calculations for people to discuss, so drop the passive aggressive attitude mmk?
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4001
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Posted - 2014.12.16 19:47:00 -
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Lazer Fo Cused wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Lazer Fo Cused wrote:
14. Cant make a thread without taking in other factors when it comes to tanking
Aww its my favorite grumpy cat! But really, you seem like you're assuming I'm offering up a specific opinion in this thread, which I'm not. I'm simply offering up raw calculations for people to discuss, so drop the passive aggressive attitude mmk? 1. Raw calculations are not the be all and end all, other factors always play apart which you cannot ignore
I'm not denying that there are other factors, in fact I even addressed a few in my comments. But you see, the document I made was about regeneration:
1. Armor plates on a Gunnlogi dont affect its shield regen in the slightest, and that is an issue of PG/CPU balance, not regen. Dual tanking should be discouraged via PG/CPU cost.
2. I addressed this in the document comments, did you read them?
3. Turrets have nothing to do with regen, you're assuming I'm trying to say one tank is better than the other
4. Cant fit a nitro with the assumed fit, as addressed in comments. Again unrelated to regen and you're assuming I'm trying to say one tank is better than the other.
5. Delay taken into account in the document. Regen cycles are on 1 second intervals.
6. Again mentioned in the document notes
7. Assumption if that end result is balanced AV options for anti shield and armor. This is a current topic of discussion with Rattati.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4002
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Posted - 2014.12.16 20:28:00 -
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Shadow of War88 wrote:x3 rep maddy stands under ads fire and chuckles. Shields cant do that :(
350hp/s vs 164hp/s. Pretty clear who can get more regen using modules.
Also armor reps without delay. Quit picking on shields bro. After 28 seconds shield tanks lose their edge.
Triple rep madrugars are so easy to kill....
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4004
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Posted - 2014.12.17 00:23:00 -
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Could you answer my question? Do you think the difference in eHP should be the same as the difference in effective regen? Or is it fine that it's different? And if so could you explain your reasoning? I'm actually trying to have a conversation here
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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