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Edau Skir2
duna corp
117
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:27:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:It's been 5 minutes... why are you still in Duna? Seriously, NPC corps are better than being in Duna...
HA I'm offline atm, that's why!
So it seems we have a few conflicting views. Some people are saying get eq to adv level, others are saying use militia. What's the verdict here? Or is this one of those troll discussions that seem to be oh so popular here?  |
Michael Epic
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
375
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:35:00 -
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My problem isn't SP, its ISK!
This is how I get SP out of a match
Map screen loads, look at where our installations are and where there's are...drop blueprint lav, loaded up in proto nanohive and boundless re's dropsuit carrying swarm launcher, thukker grenade and flaylock pistol, right? Right.
Drive to other side of screen, target enemy installations...behind red line? Last priority...within non-redline range? Drop nanohive, 4 boundless re's kaboom, swarm while I juice up, 4 boundless re's, kaboom...swarm while I juice up...someone tries to engage me? Thukker grenade...miss with that? Shoot their feet with flaylock pistol.
Juice back up...re's kaboom. Run out of nano? Swarm launcher to finish off. I can get a CRU blown up in about 45-50 seconds.
So I cruise around and blow up anything I can and then I have an solo flux OB built up....I will parade into battle with my flaylock pistol and get killed for sure. I'll go to the screen, see if there are any forge gunning or thale sniper b!tches way up high like little weenies! I'll jump into my dropsuit with either dual smg or AR and smg and hit the map....I'll solo flux positions where I saw snipers/nano/uplinks...if I blow up everything and don't get killed I can get about 600wp from it...enough to solo flux two locations if need be
I'll run around and shoot, get shot, throw grenades, drop re's, just do whatever until I see the dropships come back out. Then when I get killed I'll deploy with a forge gun and send them packing...by now I've built up 1-2 more flux's so if I don't get the dropship with my forge gun (even though I get +75pts if I even hit it once) and they get back into positions, I'll flux them out again and we all get the +5's on that beat lol
I just rinse and repeat a lot of things and play....I'll usually end up 900wpts - 2000wpts in any given match...nothing solo impressive at all...but I get a good 5-8k worth of SP out of it...so 8-10 matches like that and I've gotten a nice little chunk of change for the day.
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
1055
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:40:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:So I've just spent the last 3 games as a logi, repping almost constantly, injecting, and throwing down uplinks. As well as a bit of hacking and killing when needed.
However, this is actually getting me a lot LESS sp than I'd usually get for going frontline crazy on them. Where's your logic here?
Numbers?
I usually get around 9-12K SP per battle (averaging 2800 WP, highs of around 3500) as an omni-soldier.
The other day I was forced to logi (haven't been a proper logi in a long time).... I got 5247 WP / 10 Kills / 5 Deaths / 19,238 SP (no boosters).
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6382
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:42:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:So I've just spent the last 3 games as a logi, repping almost constantly, injecting, and throwing down uplinks. As well as a bit of hacking and killing when needed.
However, this is actually getting me a lot LESS sp than I'd usually get for going frontline crazy on them. Where's your logic here?
I MOSTLY use Uplinks and Nanohives while playing with my logi and i never have less than 2500-3000wp....
Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
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Byozuma Kegawa
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
374
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:46:00 -
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Well, militia was stated as being good for milking WP but having the disadvantage of being slow/limited with healing. I used to use militia alot but after getting my advanced equipment I never went back if I want to be serious about logistics (I still use militia when I don't care about results). It's about how serious you want to be and how much of a benefit to the team you are. |
Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
1055
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:47:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Cheers for that, I thought just pointing a rep tool at something gave me points.........sigh. I WAS repping people taking damage!
My EQ?
They have to DEAL damage for you to gain triage points, losing armour isn't enough (as it could be dealt by friendlies or self).
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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Vesta Opalus
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
255
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:57:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:I was barely getting wp. Even repping people who were taking armor damage wasn't giving me points. I barely broke 900 on all three games, and it's not like the numbers weren't flying across my screen. I ended up getting 3.5k sp, whereas I'd usually get 5k sp for killing a few people and doing a couple of hacks.
So how I see Logis going 2-3k wp on a game is beyond me. I call hacks.
You're doing it wrong.
The largest sources of points for a logi are uplinks and repair tool, but you need to put the uplinks in good locations that people will want to use, and you need to rep the right people.
Just successful uplinks alone should need you around 2-3k WP. Put them in locations near but not on top of meat grinder areas (where lots of people will fight and die). Once people die they will choose your uplinks because they are in a good position to get back to their meat grinder and continue whatever they were doing. Also you may want to hang out in the general vicinity of your uplinks to ensure no scouts or whoever are able to sneak in and kill them.
In addition if you find a good person (or persons) to repair you can easily break 5k+ (though it is much more situational to get a good rep WP stream going). |
Vesta Opalus
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
255
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Posted - 2014.12.16 18:02:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Another thing you might want to do is... got out of Duna. He's just using you to fund his tank obsession. EQ stands for equipment, which you should push to get advanced in the short term and prototype once you've taken care of the basics (capping armor and shield skills as well as the related module skills, cap your CPU/PG skills, etc., etc.). As a logistics you live by how much higher grade equipment you can fit. Weapons are always secondary. Heck, if you can get away with using a BPO weapon do it.
And lastly... get out of Duna. Your life will be so much better for it.
He can get away with taking armor/shield up to 3 and CPU/PG up to 3 or 4, those last levels are very expensive and a logi needs a better selection of equipment as a priority. |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
292
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Posted - 2014.12.16 18:15:00 -
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You suck as a logi, my conclusion.
G.L.O.R.Y Soldier,
I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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Edau Skir2
duna corp
119
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Posted - 2014.12.16 18:30:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:You suck as a logi, my conclusion.
You'd think from all my comments so far that I've only just started doing it, wouldn't you?
Clearly not to you! I smell a like farmer |
Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
625
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Posted - 2014.12.16 18:40:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:So I've just spent the last 3 games as a logi, repping almost constantly, injecting, and throwing down uplinks. As well as a bit of hacking and killing when needed.
However, this is actually getting me a lot LESS sp than I'd usually get for going frontline crazy on them. Where's your logic here?
I'd guess the following scenarios, or some combination of them.
1) You've been playing ambush. 50 clone bush is really short for racking up WP.
2) Bandwidth: Sure you're puting down links but you're not spamming them or equipment like mad, you're getting a smaller share of he pie.
3) You're using lower tier reppers. ADV simply isn't is as good as pro, and a dual beam proto rep toll will net yuou far more WP
4) No more squad lead commision. It adds up over time, but it shouldn't be that difficult to over come.
5) You had some bad matches in a row
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Edau Skir2
duna corp
120
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Posted - 2014.12.16 18:44:00 -
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1,2,4 and let's face it, 5 with all the damned bluebs around these days. A dual reppers would be good though, single repping is a ballache |
Robocop Junior
research lab
978
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Posted - 2014.12.16 18:48:00 -
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You can roll wit me yo, I will teach you how to pubbie.
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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JIMvc2
The Wanga Empire Strikes Back
472
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Posted - 2014.12.16 18:55:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:I was barely getting wp. Even repping people who were taking armor damage wasn't giving me points. I barely broke 900 on all three games, and it's not like the numbers weren't flying across my screen. I ended up getting 3.5k sp, whereas I'd usually get 5k sp for killing a few people and doing a couple of hacks.
So how I see Logis going 2-3k wp on a game is beyond me. I call hacks.
that is a lie. I was being logi for 3 games yesterday and I got well over 12,000SP and 3000 WP just by repping, ammo, and scanning.
Its a dropsuit that fills many roles.
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
942
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Posted - 2014.12.16 20:07:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:It's been 5 minutes... why are you still in Duna? Seriously, NPC corps are better than being in Duna... HA I'm offline atm, that's why! So it seems we have a few conflicting views. Some people are saying get eq to adv level, others are saying use militia. What's the verdict here? Or is this one of those troll discussions that seem to be oh so popular here?
Well this is the thing, I use only proto EQ, as I am a full-time logi. I can make maximum use of proto EQ and I can afford it (as best as CCP lets me.) If you are going to go full logi and use it every day, get proto EQ ASAP. If you just want to grind WP advanced EQ will do just fine. Until then, use mlt.
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3460
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Posted - 2014.12.16 20:10:00 -
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Not in all games logi are the first need.
Play a domination with an organized squad and against another organized squad and see how many SP a logi will do.
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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First Prophet
Followers of The Prophet
2114
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Posted - 2014.12.16 20:13:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:why are you still in Duna? Seriously, NPC corps are better than being in Duna...
People find this this review helpful!
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Anthany sandifer The2nd
Eternal Beings
13
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Posted - 2014.12.16 20:39:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:I was barely getting wp. Even repping people who were taking armor damage wasn't giving me points. I barely broke 900 on all three games, and it's not like the numbers weren't flying across my screen. I ended up getting 3.5k sp, whereas I'd usually get 5k sp for killing a few people and doing a couple of hacks.
So how I see Logis going 2-3k wp on a game is beyond me. I call hacks.
(Logi noob)
Pew pew and support
The life of a logi and scout
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1382
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Posted - 2014.12.16 20:47:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Insufficient Data wrote:Atiim wrote:To be fair, you are a new player so you're EQ will suck which leads to less ISK/WP/SP. Though there's a channel called Heavy/Logi Funzone which I highly recommend you join. I can vouch for atJim on this one. The only rules in that channel are don't recruit or poach members for your corp needs. Other than try to squad with TunRa. He might be able to let you reach 4-6k in WP easily. This is my point tho. Everyone here is saying "get a good heavy or assault to chase." Can I still rack up 3-4k matches, of course. I've been a logi since beta though, so I have perfected my craft. I USED to pull those numbers on a regular basis (and you know it Data) without a super squad. Now it seems if you want numbers like that, you absolutely have to have a top teir slayer to chase. Logis have been dumbed down to chubby chasers who throw out ammo and links now and then to move the frontline when necessary.
Yep, the role has been confined to repping heavies. There is no "advance logistics" anymore that allow you to influence the battle, instead the only role for a logi is a mindless drone who reacts to what his teammates do. If you have good teamates you can rack up tge points but if you don't you can't influence anything.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1382
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Posted - 2014.12.16 20:56:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:It's been 5 minutes... why are you still in Duna? Seriously, NPC corps are better than being in Duna... HA I'm offline atm, that's why! So it seems we have a few conflicting views. Some people are saying get eq to adv level, others are saying use militia. What's the verdict here? Or is this one of those troll discussions that seem to be oh so popular here?
My advice is to use the best gear you can afford to run. The militia thing is that if you use a militia injector it only restore some armor and you can rep them instead which nets you more points. I'd just go with a good injector, especially now that many people aren't getting revived. Logis are now only as good as their team, try to find someone who is staying alive more than two second, has a lot of armor and that risks themselves and stay with them.
Because, that's why.
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