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Dubya Guy
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:25:00 -
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As a good Logi, in an advanced suit, in a squad with 2 other advanced gear or less players, this is not at all hard in a Domination match. I may only get 1 kill  , but if no one else has put out uplinks (happens now  ) and my "front men" are not reckless while I am repping them, I can get over 10k SP half the time. Better players (also not wearing proto gear) could probably do it solo or as an ADS pilot or any number of other ways without using proto gear.
Why only half the time? Because the other half the time, there are more squadded up players using better strategy on the other team, and MY team loses painfully. My squad will still do RELATIVELY good, but the coordination by more players on the other side wins the day.
Coordination > Game Experience > Gear
That's why I think all the talk of trying to "fix" proto-stomping by sorting players into battle according to gear is going about the "problem" bass-ackwards. You will still have experienced players coordinating their efforts in MILITIA gear totally owning a random collection of nooberries.
If you want more of the matches to be competitive, CCP should do things to encourage new players to join a corp and learn from experienced players, introduce a "Platoon" game mode, and/or add training in squadding to an extended academy experience.
Warning, controversial statement  : Solo play in Dust should be for the extremes...foolish nooberries and elite-skilled pros.
FPS = First Person Support. Kills win battles but it's kinda hard to kill if you're dead and out of ammo.
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Dubya Guy
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Posted - 2014.12.17 14:35:00 -
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See this idea for a new feature which may help the perception of shall I say..."unfairness" to new players without limiting gear.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=184780&find=unread
FPS = First Person Support. Kills win battles but it's kinda hard to kill if you're dead and out of ammo.
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Dubya Guy
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:23:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:The last Ambush game I played was with a few corp members; our entire team spawned within 10 meters of the enemy team, all bunched up, and they had a few guys spamming Mass Drivers. We dropped 20 clones in the first 15 seconds or so. Naturally, it was a squad of 4 people and randoms versus two full squads of people but bad initial spawning and getting spawn trapped for the first 40 clones is what really lost the game.
Wouldn't it be fun to be able to play an Ambush style match where you could guarantee one side didn't have more coordination than the other? Yet you could still bring your best gear and gun game? As an option, of course:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=184780&find=unread
FPS = First Person Support. Kills win battles but it's kinda hard to kill if you're dead and out of ammo.
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Dubya Guy
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:38:00 -
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ishtellian wrote: im a blueberry with no mic so i usually get kicked from squads i join and have to run solo, its a hard life out there 
I get it. See this thread for a game idea that will offer more enjoyment to the mic-deficient.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=184780&find=unread
FPS = First Person Support. Kills win battles but it's kinda hard to kill if you're dead and out of ammo.
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