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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.15 12:10:00 -
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This weapon is the most underrated weapon out there. The only thing negative about it is that the visual recoil is lethargic and so it does not "appear" to be accurate. Though, anyone who knows, knows not to fight the recoil.
Don't change the ASCR CCP! It is awesome!
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.15 22:57:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:>Constantly bitches and moans about how the AR is so bad, when it really isn't bad at all, and is actually performing on par.
>Tries to say the AScR is fine, when it is performing worse in almost every measurable metric compared to the AR they so fervently think is terrible.
Just shut your mouth. You quite clearly don't give a damn about anything other than Gallente weapons.
Bring on the Galfag hate!
You're one to talk Fizzer. You are not known for your fair and balanced views on any subjects.
Also, let me set you straight.
I have the Scrambler Rifles, Scrambler Pistols and Amarr Assault to proto. I only have a basic tier one Gallente Assault and a proto AR I have lying around since last year.
What's that about me only caring about Gallante gear? I don't even use it a tenth of the time I play. When I use the AR it's usually on the Amarr or Minmatar Assault I have to proto.
So why don't you silence yourself. Spreading slander about my character is a very ignorant thing to do as it makes both of us look bad.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.15 23:04:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Before you demand nothing be done give this a look.Even if you could make it work, the data shows the ASCR has the largest penalty drawback of all the rifles. When the Proto rifle is worse than every ADV rifle there is a problem that needs to be addressed. I say once you tweak the damage profile to a +/- 15%, buff ROF by 4%, the ASCR keeps the same damage vs shields you love, and does the nearly the same damage to armor as the combat rifle does to shields.
I could live with a very slight change, but the reason I love it is because it is an EXTREMELY precise weapon and has amazing hipfire. I don't want it to get buffed so much it becomes OP and then nerfed into ablivion. I'm a passionate user of this weapon who uses it regularly. So I'm trying to make my voice heard.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.15 23:09:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:The true problem is there isn't a shield stacker out there on almost any battlefield for it to massacre, everyone stacks armor more than shields and can do so easily with just one complex armor plate over 2 complex shield extender, it's not so much the weapon but it is its environment
I don't have an issue with armor suits because they tend to move slower and because of the ASCR's low muzzle climb and low dispersion head shots are fairly common against armor users.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.16 02:53:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:How about either removing the recoil or fixing it so its not just visual?
No, that is a purposeful balancing feature.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.16 04:02:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:How about either removing the recoil or fixing it so its not just visual? No, that is a purposeful balancing feature. Im confused. Wouldn't legitimate recoil be better? I don't understand "visual" recoil. Doesn't make sense
Visual recoil denotes that it makes the weapon appear extremely innacurate, though in reality the weapon settles itself again before the next shot because of its high center speed which completely negates the high recoil making the only consequence be visual.
It's a sort of balancing feature that keeps everyone who seeks an easy weapon from using it.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.16 04:04:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Howaboot you make the visual recoil LESS FOOKING OBNOXIOUS, mate?
It's an eye irritant, I tell ya.
That is what keeps this weapon balance. To make the visual recoil better would make this weapon OP.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.16 04:19:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Except its a feature of the Assault variant rifles to be a bit easier to use. They are they first weapons a new player will ever hold in their hands in most cases.
Making them artificially difficult to use isn't helping new player retention at all.
Remember than most newbros will be coming from games with simpler gameplay mechanics. Slapping them in the face with the complex mechanics of Dust, and a weapon that is deceptively difficult to use will just end up turning many people away. Its already enough that the weapon does overheat at all to confuse and frustrate some newbies.
The Shaking and Flashing needs to be reduced or removed in some combination. I'm not sure how much, but it needs it.
Then we must also reduce the mathematical effectiveness of the weapon because this obstruction is the only thing keeping the weapon in check.
Let us also note that many weapons in COD have this same recoil peculiarity. The Kalashnikov series of weapons exemplifies this visual recoil pattern albeit with a vertical bias rather than a horizontal bias. Yet, the AK's in COD are seen as some of the best weapons in the series among skilled and unskilled users.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2014.12.16 04:32:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Howaboot you make the visual recoil LESS FOOKING OBNOXIOUS, mate?
It's an eye irritant, I tell ya. That is what keeps this weapon balance. To make the visual recoil better would make this weapon OP. Prove it, mate. Prove that pretty much the only thing keeping the currently under-performing ASCR in check is something that is cosmetic. I recommend using maths. Or spreadsheets. Or video comparisons. Something more than your mere word. And never mind that making something visually less obnoxious does not equate to complete removal.
Here is the thing about something visual. You could only test it through polling the player base pre patch and post patch. I doubt that CCP wishes to go through this complex process to make a suitable choice.
If you want personal proof, then go use the ASCR. If you do not wish to, then this dialogue has reached a stand still with neither you nor I able to contribute anything more yo satisfy the other.
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