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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
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Posted - 2014.12.14 19:09:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:
Now I think you are forgeting to use sense.
If I came kill a Ak.0 Sent before he can kill my assault with his bullet hose HMG I think there is something very wrong. I think the breach variant should receive a damage nerf, not a huge one, but rather about 7% or so.
Seven percent what? Damage? Range? Rate of fire? Also many weapons like the Shotgun, Plasma Cannon, Combat Rifle, Ion Pistol, SMG, Magsec, Scrambler Rifle and Assault Rail Rifle can all compete against Sentinels comfortably. I said it in the post, I said a damage nerf. Shotgun, yes it is a high damage weapon, perhaps too high. Plasma Cannon, again it is high damage. Combat Rife, Yes from my experience the Six Kin Assault Combat RIfle. Ion Pistol, yes very good sidearm. SMG, good against heavies, yes it is. Magsec... good joke, damn thing can hardly kill an assault. Scrambler Rifle, yes I think this is a little too strong. ARR... My Ishokone Assault Rail Rifle does okay against them. One thing the BrAR has over all of these (bar the SG) is that it can do so easily at ADV level without help. Just stop defending it, it is far too strong. It is to the point to where if the whole enemy team is in a room I can clear them with a GB-9 BrAR without trouble, and yes I have done this before. Damage, ah yes. It seems my reading comprehension has failed once more, oh well. I personally find that I never need to use weapons higher than advanced. Currently I can comfortably fight proto suits with no more than my advanced Combat Rifle and Flaylock. So I disagree that the Breach AR has this unique trait. I'am curious though, what is your opinion of the Tactical Assault Rifle? In my opinion it is much more potent than the Breach AR at both close and long ranges acting like a Scrambler Rifle but without the fear of over heating. It's an under used weapon yet according to CCP TAR users get similar scores to BAR users.
I will have to get back to you on that, I haven't used one in a long time.
I don't think I ever used it in fact. I'm more of a high ROF person, if I can make something fire faster I will. I'll have to try it out.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.12.15 00:45:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Joel II X wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:
Now I think you are forgeting to use sense.
If I came kill a Ak.0 Sent before he can kill my assault with his bullet hose HMG I think there is something very wrong. I think the breach variant should receive a damage nerf, not a huge one, but rather about 7% or so.
Seven percent what? Damage? Range? Rate of fire? Also many weapons like the Shotgun, Plasma Cannon, Combat Rifle, Ion Pistol, SMG, Magsec, Scrambler Rifle and Assault Rail Rifle can all compete against Sentinels comfortably. Ion Pistol competing well against sentinels? Lol you've just lost all credibility. Best chance you've got with that thing is going up against a Caldari Sentinel, and surprising him with a charged headshot, but he WILL have health left over enough for about two more charged body shots, and by then, you'd be swiss cheese by his HMG. He has not, I can personally vouch for Ion pistol. A great follow up weapon when using the shotgun. I can also tell you it does better then the AR vs sentinels.
Great follow up, sure. The post implied that those weapons mentioned fare well against sentinels alone, which the Ion Pistol, sadly, does not. Good day, sir. |
sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
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Posted - 2014.12.15 01:38:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Joel II X wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:
Now I think you are forgeting to use sense.
If I came kill a Ak.0 Sent before he can kill my assault with his bullet hose HMG I think there is something very wrong. I think the breach variant should receive a damage nerf, not a huge one, but rather about 7% or so.
Seven percent what? Damage? Range? Rate of fire? Also many weapons like the Shotgun, Plasma Cannon, Combat Rifle, Ion Pistol, SMG, Magsec, Scrambler Rifle and Assault Rail Rifle can all compete against Sentinels comfortably. Ion Pistol competing well against sentinels? Lol you've just lost all credibility. Best chance you've got with that thing is going up against a Caldari Sentinel, and surprising him with a charged headshot, but he WILL have health left over enough for about two more charged body shots, and by then, you'd be swiss cheese by his HMG. He has not, I can personally vouch for Ion pistol. A great follow up weapon when using the shotgun. I can also tell you it does better then the AR vs sentinels. Great follow up, sure. The post implied that those weapons mentioned fare well against sentinels alone, which the Ion Pistol, sadly, does not. Good day, sir.
Honestly it does.
I've taken out many a heavy while using a Ion Pistol fit.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.12.15 05:23:00 -
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The Ion Pistol is indeed a very potent weapon.
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Jack 3enimble
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.15 05:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:I like this, but there is only one problem.
Maps are CQC. This means the AR would dominate and be deemed OP by the forums, incoming nerf and no one wants that.
Here are the problems with your proposal.
25m to 40m - I say 25m to 35m. That 5m makes a difference.
Decrease recoil - You mean the basically nonexistent recoil? It barely moves after a whole mag. I last tested first day of 1.9.
The rest is just fine. I can get kills with a AR, but it feels like it's exceeding other weapons like the RR and CR. ARR and ACR compared to the assault rifle? I can't really do that due to the fact that I don't have enough SP to put into AR (I have it at 4, but like to use proto weapons when comparing) I actually proposed that recoil be increased in my original post. I don't understand how you believe the AR is exceeding the RR and CR. Also, maps are not all CQC. It depends on the weapons you use and how you use them.
Were you not the one crying about the short range of AR's?
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
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Posted - 2014.12.15 05:59:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:I like this, but there is only one problem.
Maps are CQC. This means the AR would dominate and be deemed OP by the forums, incoming nerf and no one wants that.
Here are the problems with your proposal.
25m to 40m - I say 25m to 35m. That 5m makes a difference.
Decrease recoil - You mean the basically nonexistent recoil? It barely moves after a whole mag. I last tested first day of 1.9.
The rest is just fine. I can get kills with a AR, but it feels like it's exceeding other weapons like the RR and CR. ARR and ACR compared to the assault rifle? I can't really do that due to the fact that I don't have enough SP to put into AR (I have it at 4, but like to use proto weapons when comparing) I actually proposed that recoil be increased in my original post. I don't understand how you believe the AR is exceeding the RR and CR. Also, maps are not all CQC. It depends on the weapons you use and how you use them.
Were you not the one crying about the short range of AR's?
Ignoring Jack.
Deadly, I must have misread, my apologies.
Most maps are CQC, sadly I've only seen RRs used in CQC, ARs fill the killfeed as does CRs and ACRs.
I find the breach should be used for breaching, not to kill everything.
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Foehammerr
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.15 08:43:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:You obviously have not lived during the reign of the ungodly AR. You make me sick. It tore through drop suits faster than chipotle chicken. Never utter the words you uttered.
You mean besides the fact that it was the ONLY rifle in the game for a long time and had no competition? Yes, the scrambler rifle was out too but nobody liked it because it overheats (nevermind that it was really powerful and untouched until recently.). If it had the stats of back then now with all the other rifles, we wouldn't be having this problem we do now.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.15 08:52:00 -
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no weapon can be good at range and CQC without acting like the LR, the RR will always outperform the AR unless you make DPS v Range very hard defined things
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