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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2014.12.13 23:57:00 -
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I'll have to argue against points 1 and 2 to a degree. The ranking can go up just by logging in, winning games etc with no need to buy Aurum. Likewise, Apex suits can be earned in Factional Warfare. Aurum just makes them easier.
A bigger point would be Boosters and the lack of an ISK variant, even if it was a lesser variant.
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:00:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:I'll have to argue against points 1 and 2 to a degree. The ranking can go up just by logging in, winning games etc with no need to buy Aurum. Likewise, Apex suits can be earned in Factional Warfare. Aurum just makes them easier.
A bigger point would be Boosters and the lack of an ISK variant, even if it was a lesser variant. But to counter argue yours, Aurum gives a huge difference in loyalty ranks.
I already covered that by saying Aurum makes both ranking up and Apex acquisition easier.
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:03:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:I'll have to argue against points 1 and 2 to a degree. The ranking can go up just by logging in, winning games etc with no need to buy Aurum. Likewise, Apex suits can be earned in Factional Warfare. Aurum just makes them easier.
A bigger point would be Boosters and the lack of an ISK variant, even if it was a lesser variant. The ranking CAN go up just be logging in, winning games etc. The point is someone who doesn't buy Aurum has no chance of competing with someone who does. Apex suits CAN be earned in factional warfare, however it is difficult to extremely difficult depending on what faction you're fighting for. Meanwhile a wallet warrior can not only get one apex suit instantaneously, they can get many across all classes and all races.
As I said, Aurum only makes it easier. Less P2W, more P2GetThereFaster.
Besides, Apex BPO are Proto Suits loaded with Basic and Milita racial gear. A Basic ISK brought suit can go toe to toe and still match it.
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:30:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Z3dog wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:I'll have to argue against points 1 and 2 to a degree. The ranking can go up just by logging in, winning games etc with no need to buy Aurum. Likewise, Apex suits can be earned in Factional Warfare. Aurum just makes them easier.
A bigger point would be Boosters and the lack of an ISK variant, even if it was a lesser variant. The ranking CAN go up just be logging in, winning games etc. The point is someone who doesn't buy Aurum has no chance of competing with someone who does. Apex suits CAN be earned in factional warfare, however it is difficult to extremely difficult depending on what faction you're fighting for. Meanwhile a wallet warrior can not only get one apex suit instantaneously, they can get many across all classes and all races. Regarding your first point, I have to disagree about non-AUR players having no advantage over AUR players. Player A who never spent AUR can still beat the crap out of Player B (who spend AUR) just by using ISK-variant gear in a given match. AUR doesn't guarantee a win. Regarding your second point, I agree. But here comes the "BUT". I have encountered matches in FW where the Gallente and Minmatar would get their asses handed to them by the Amarr and Caldari. These kind of matches, ever since 1.10 came around, are no longer rare from the looks of it. It can depend on the time of day as well. In my case, since I live in the US EST, I see Gallente and Minmatar winning a lot in the day but then get stomped on their faces late at night by the opposing factions. I would know as I have had to grind a lot to get the Federation 'Serpent' Scout. I'm going for the Republic 'Tiger' Scout now but even now in the day time I'm encountering stiff opposition coming from the Amarr side. But overall, I never spent a single AUR to get my faction-variant APEX suit. I feel better and more accomplished getting the faction-variant APEX despite being able to afford the AUR-variant APEX right from the start. Yes they CAN beat them. Player A had to work and skill into their equipment. Player B did not. Nobody is arguing AUR guarantees a win.
Give that the APEX suits are most basic tier racial that's available in the Loyalty Store, skilling isn't necessary. Earning, yes, but not skilling.
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:44:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Neither earning nor skilling is necessary to obtain the apex suit.
Nor is buying necessary.
Does Aurum give paying players an advantage? Yes and no. Yes in that Aurum lets you use things you lack the right skills for or lets you buy things like APEX suits but also no since using an Aurum weapon typically means having less SP invested, so the ISK version of that weapon actually has an advantage from the skills.
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:49:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Z3dog wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:I'll have to argue against points 1 and 2 to a degree. The ranking can go up just by logging in, winning games etc with no need to buy Aurum. Likewise, Apex suits can be earned in Factional Warfare. Aurum just makes them easier.
A bigger point would be Boosters and the lack of an ISK variant, even if it was a lesser variant. The ranking CAN go up just be logging in, winning games etc. The point is someone who doesn't buy Aurum has no chance of competing with someone who does. Apex suits CAN be earned in factional warfare, however it is difficult to extremely difficult depending on what faction you're fighting for. Meanwhile a wallet warrior can not only get one apex suit instantaneously, they can get many across all classes and all races. As I said, Aurum only makes it easier. Less P2W, more P2GetThereFaster. Besides, Apex BPO are Proto Suits loaded with Basic and Milita racial gear. A Basic ISK brought suit can go toe to toe and still match it. If you payed to get there faster then you payed to get there before someone else and if you payed to get there before someone else then you payed to beat them.
However paying for access to, for example, a Proto Combat Rifle without having the skills to use the ISK version results in an overall weaker weapon compared to said ISK version. If you "payed to beat" someone to use a weapon than that's hardly an advantage if their ISK version can out-perform your Aurum one due to their skills.
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