DUST Search - i vote for higher payouts!

Thumb Green wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

Thumb Green wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

if you insist on running suits at a loss then that is your own choice.

So basically, just give up if you get stuck on the team full of dipshits and/or newberries. Some of us just can't help but try to win even after telling ourselves over and over again to only put in as much effort as the rest of the team does.

you do not need to lose hundreds of thousands of isk to remain effective. the gear you use is only as good as how the player uses it. i often kill proto with my standard weapons. i often earn stupid amounts of wp for my well placed uplink in a what was losing fight but was turned by changing tactics. if your tactic is for more isk and better gear when it gets harder to fight then thats the wrong tactic if you intend to leave the fight isk positive.

the lower payout is meant to deter players from using proto and often gets players switching suits mid fight causing a shift in the flow of battle meaning the tide can change. with a higher isk payout players who are losing will have no chance to win as it will be harder to break the morale of those with the better gear

Doesn't sound like you're getting stuck on the team full of dipshits and newberries very often. Doesn't matter what you run, you can't be effective against a stacked team when only 1-4 of the people on your team is actually trying instead of jacking off in the far corners of the map.

Lol at the second part of your comment. Most of the people that run proto don't care about the payout. They have the ISK to burn, that's why you always see them in proto.

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saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 820	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:25:00 - [1] - Quote I really think it should be rethought, 200-500k isnt enough for a 20 min domination match. atleast make it to where you get 300k as a base minimum, like i said 270 k isnt enough SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
thehellisgoingon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 49	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:44:00 - [2] - Quote I vote for more strongboxes as salvage. Because 144 is not enough. That's 115,200 aur. what are you smoking ccp and where can I get it?
Kaltos Darksbane Murphys-Law 337	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:45:00 - [3] - Quote Are you broke again Sax? If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 364	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:46:00 - [4] - Quote Raise them to the glorious day 1.9 came out! The State will always survive.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1663	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:49:00 - [5] - Quote You Must Earn Your Cash. Translation via DUST 514 community We must be rich enough to run proto 24/7 with out a scratch in our wallets. le sigh *Apply to Kaalmayoti Warzone Control today* *Chat Channel: Kaalmayoti Warzone Control* *For the State*
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1087	Posted - 2014.12.13 02:54:00 - [6] - Quote Dude, you can get well over a half million ISK a day just from daily missions. Stop. Running. Proto. All. Day. lol Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2640	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:05:00 - [7] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Dude, you can get well over a half million ISK a day just from daily missions. Stop. Running. Proto. All. Day. lol But then how would everyone else make isk if people didn't run proto all day and add to match payouts? We would all get like 80-120k payouts at the end of a skirmish. Yuck. I think we are going backwards from the OP's intent.
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15507	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:08:00 - [8] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Dude, you can get well over a half million ISK a day just from daily missions. Stop. Running. Proto. All. Day. lol / dont ever become a pilot Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube WoD 514
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 373	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:19:00 - [9] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Raise them to the glorious day 1.9 came out! YES Gassault Calogi - Ranked #763 on the forums `- Open Beta Vet - 32mil sp - - GFC, GJR Approved -`
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1087	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:20:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Dude, you can get well over a half million ISK a day just from daily missions. Stop. Running. Proto. All. Day. lol / dont ever become a pilot Don't worry. No plans to. o7 Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7

Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1087	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:22:00 - [11] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Dude, you can get well over a half million ISK a day just from daily missions. Stop. Running. Proto. All. Day. lol But then how would everyone else make isk if people didn't run proto all day and add to match payouts? We would all get like 80-120k payouts at the end of a skirmish. Yuck. I think we are going backwards from the OP's intent. My Republic 'Shaman' counts as Proto, helps EOM payments, and makes me a shitload of ISK. I'm making more ISK per day running my Shaman and completing daily missions than some small corps earn from PC. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3889	Posted - 2014.12.13 03:36:00 - [12] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I really think it should be rethought, 200-500k isnt enough for a 20 min domination match. atleast make it to where you get 300k as a base minimum Yet I can play a 3 minute bush completely smash the other team and get 200-400k.. Brilliant, except not everyone likes spermbush. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5458	Posted - 2014.12.13 04:35:00 - [13] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: You Must Earn Your Cash. Translation via DUST 514 community We must be rich enough to run proto 24/7 with out a scratch in our wallets. le sigh No, it should be such that only 4-5 KDR pub players can afford to run ADV 24/7. This way the PC players are able to run proto and smash mostly STD/MLT players 24/7. This is how it's always been, therefore it must stay this way. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1311	Posted - 2014.12.13 04:37:00 - [14] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Are you broke again Sax? Well, he isn't gonna have a huge wallet when he run proto everywhere. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 606	Posted - 2014.12.13 04:47:00 - [15] - Quote 20 min Dom match. Enemy runs mainly ADV suits, occasionally a gk.0 scout. They bring out 4 tanks, I wreck two. My team is running STD and MLT. I run STD and ADV. I am #2, 1800+ WP's. 190K ISK. Yep, it's the lack of proto. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't get heightened payouts. I would've made far more pre-1.9 with only 500 WP's. Public Announcement: Tell players to terminate in order to access MCRU's.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5458	Posted - 2014.12.13 04:53:00 - [16] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I really think it should be rethought, 200-500k isnt enough for a 20 min domination match. atleast make it to where you get 300k as a base minimum I don't like the idea of a minimum at all. Only4-5KDRpubbiesCanRunADV24/7\|PCplyrsRunPRO&smashSTD/MLTplyrs24/7. ThisIsHowIt'sAlwaysBeen,ThereforeMustStayThisWay.
Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 175	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:00:00 - [17] - Quote obligatory "No, go squad up and find/fund PC matches if you want real payouts like us 733t players get, ***" Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6373	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:11:00 - [18] - Quote No. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 607	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:30:00 - [19] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: saxonmish wrote: I really think it should be rethought, 200-500k isnt enough for a 20 min domination match. atleast make it to where you get 300k as a base minimum I don't like the idea of a minimum at all. It's AFK farming, isn't it? Public Announcement: Tell players to terminate in order to access MCRU's.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2762	Posted - 2014.12.13 06:02:00 - [20] - Quote It makes me laugh that I can scrub a dub around in Ambush for 5-10 mins and get 200-300k pretty consistently yet I can slug it out for 20 mins in a domination game and receive 150k (aka peanuts) Domination sucks donkey **. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big fk-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2647	Posted - 2014.12.13 17:34:00 - [21] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Bethhy wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Dude, you can get well over a half million ISK a day just from daily missions. Stop. Running. Proto. All. Day. lol But then how would everyone else make isk if people didn't run proto all day and add to match payouts? We would all get like 80-120k payouts at the end of a skirmish. Yuck. I think we are going backwards from the OP's intent. My Republic 'Shaman' counts as Proto, helps EOM payments, and makes me a shitload of ISK. I'm making more ISK per day running my Shaman and completing daily missions than some small corps earn from PC. People have more expensive advanced suits. then your BPO. The more BPO's ran in match the less everyone makes. The Double edged sword and all that ~
Her Chosen Grade No.2 131	Posted - 2014.12.13 17:43:00 - [22] - Quote How about more revenue strings? CCP's pressure to buy Aurum is getting old
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game RUST415 1715	Posted - 2014.12.13 17:45:00 - [23] - Quote if you insist on running suits at a loss then that is your own choice. All Hail Legion
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 405	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:06:00 - [24] - Quote K den. Signed. Do not think about bending k den. There is no k den. U jus not gonna answer?, k den.
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 855	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:19:00 - [25] - Quote It's always your own fault if you're broke. Stop running Proto expecting to make a profit; it's not meant to be sustainable. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1928	Posted - 2014.12.13 20:23:00 - [26] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: if you insist on running suits at a loss then that is your own choice. So basically, just give up if you get stuck on the team full of dipshits and/or newberries. Some of us just can't help but try to win even after telling ourselves over and over again to only put in as much effort as the rest of the team does. [RYJC]
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game RUST415 1723	Posted - 2014.12.13 20:44:00 - [27] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: if you insist on running suits at a loss then that is your own choice. So basically, just give up if you get stuck on the team full of dipshits and/or newberries. Some of us just can't help but try to win even after telling ourselves over and over again to only put in as much effort as the rest of the team does. you do not need to lose hundreds of thousands of isk to remain effective. the gear you use is only as good as how the player uses it. i often kill proto with my standard weapons. i often earn stupid amounts of wp for my well placed uplink in a what was losing fight but was turned by changing tactics. if your tactic is for more isk and better gear when it gets harder to fight then thats the wrong tactic if you intend to leave the fight isk positive. the lower payout is meant to deter players from using proto and often gets players switching suits mid fight causing a shift in the flow of battle meaning the tide can change. with a higher isk payout players who are losing will have no chance to win as it will be harder to break the morale of those with the better gear All Hail Legion
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1929	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:16:00 - [28] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Thumb Green wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: if you insist on running suits at a loss then that is your own choice. So basically, just give up if you get stuck on the team full of dipshits and/or newberries. Some of us just can't help but try to win even after telling ourselves over and over again to only put in as much effort as the rest of the team does. you do not need to lose hundreds of thousands of isk to remain effective. the gear you use is only as good as how the player uses it. i often kill proto with my standard weapons. i often earn stupid amounts of wp for my well placed uplink in a what was losing fight but was turned by changing tactics. if your tactic is for more isk and better gear when it gets harder to fight then thats the wrong tactic if you intend to leave the fight isk positive. the lower payout is meant to deter players from using proto and often gets players switching suits mid fight causing a shift in the flow of battle meaning the tide can change. with a higher isk payout players who are losing will have no chance to win as it will be harder to break the morale of those with the better gear Doesn't sound like you're getting stuck on the team full of dipshits and newberries very often. Doesn't matter what you run, you can't be effective against a stacked team when only 1-4 of the people on your team is actually trying instead of jacking off in the far corners of the map. Lol at the second part of your comment. Most of the people that run proto don't care about the payout. They have the ISK to burn, that's why you always see them in proto. [RYJC]
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5465	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:32:00 - [29] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Thumb Green wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: if you insist on running suits at a loss then that is your own choice. So basically, just give up if you get stuck on the team full of dipshits and/or newberries. Some of us just can't help but try to win even after telling ourselves over and over again to only put in as much effort as the rest of the team does. you do not need to lose hundreds of thousands of isk to remain effective. the gear you use is only as good as how the player uses it. i often kill proto with my standard weapons. i often earn stupid amounts of wp for my well placed uplink in a what was losing fight but was turned by changing tactics. if your tactic is for more isk and better gear when it gets harder to fight then thats the wrong tactic if you intend to leave the fight isk positive. the lower payout is meant to deter players from using proto and often gets players switching suits mid fight causing a shift in the flow of battle meaning the tide can change. with a higher isk payout players who are losing will have no chance to win as it will be harder to break the morale of those with the better gear Doesn't sound like you're getting stuck on the team full of dipshits and newberries very often. Doesn't matter what you run, you can't be effective against a stacked team when only 1-4 of the people on your team is actually trying instead of jacking off in the far corners of the map. Lol at the second part of your comment. Most of the people that run proto don't care about the payout. They have the ISK to burn, that's why you always see them in proto. We must keep it this way. STD/MLT players must continue to feed the KDR of the elite. Raising payouts in order to raise competition in matches IS BLASPHEMY! Only4-5KDRpubbiesCanRunADV24/7\|PCplyrsRunPRO&smashSTD/MLTplyrs24/7. ThisIsHowIt'sAlwaysBeen,ThereforeMustStayThisWay.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1932	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:50:00 - [30] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: We must keep it this way. STD/MLT players must continue to feed the KDR of the elite. Raising payouts in order to raise competition in matches IS BLASPHEMY! Sometimes it really does seem as though many players consider competition a blasphemy. I've seen so many players suggest ideas that make competition less likely and rail against ideas that try to promote competition. [RYJC]



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