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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:02:00 -
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Could you please explain me what is so MASSIVE on this game? Im really curious about the explaination for that on the main page. It says: Quote:DUST 514-« GÇô a massively multiplayer shooter . So what exactly is so MASSIVELY about this game? Its 16 vs 16 matches? Battlefield can do that better and MAG outclassed the max playercount from dust by miles. Its very limited connection to eve online? And if you say the skilltree then i will find you, grab your body and throw it off the cliff on manus peak.
If you dont believe me then check it for yourself: http://dust514.com/
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Vordred Knight
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
548
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:11:00 -
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Skilltree 
Don't Do Drugs while playing Eve
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hfderrtgvcd
1512
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:29:00 -
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turnover rate
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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SoTa PoP
Titans of Phoenix
5316
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:31:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Could you please explain me what is so MASSIVE on this game? Im really curious about the explaination for that on the main page. It says: Quote:DUST 514-« GÇô a massively multiplayer shooter . So what exactly is so MASSIVELY about this game? Its 16 vs 16 matches? Battlefield can do that better and MAG outclassed the max playercount from dust by miles. Its very limited connection to eve online? And if you say the skilltree then i will find you, grab your body and throw it off the cliff on manus peak. If you dont believe me then check it for yourself: http://dust514.com/ Do you see those chats that connect a massive amount of people inside the game?
Yea.....................
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Anatha Amelana
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:32:00 -
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Maybe they mean the amount of players using Scouts?
I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise.
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Jack 3enimble
Titans of Phoenix
600
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:32:00 -
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Why are you female-dogging about this?
Dealing justice with a swift punch in the balls, now in battles near you!
Lord of the Links
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
907
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:35:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Why are you female-dogging about this? Not only that, its been brought up about 1k times. You would think someone with 640 likes would have noticed this thread has been done before..
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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SoTa PoP
Titans of Phoenix
5316
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:36:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Why are you female-dogging about this? Not only that, its been brought up about 1k times. You would think someone with 640 likes would have noticed this thread has been done before.. He has a lot more likes on his main, The Dark Cloud.
He's actually made this thread in the past, i think? He used to be a major poster back when he was in CRONOS.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Jack 3enimble
Titans of Phoenix
600
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:36:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Why are you female-dogging about this? Not only that, its been brought up about 1k times. You would think someone with 640 likes would have noticed this thread has been done before..
LOL
Dealing justice with a swift punch in the balls, now in battles near you!
Lord of the Links
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Mex-0
236
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:36:00 -
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Anatha Amelana wrote:Maybe they mean the amount of players using Scouts?
That was 1.9. Although still there are annoying people who go shotty cloak.
Meh, I give up on FW.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
6320
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:39:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:MASSIVELY about this game? /
The ISK debt i have.
Anyone with sum free iskies?
Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
907
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:40:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Why are you female-dogging about this? Not only that, its been brought up about 1k times. You would think someone with 640 likes would have noticed this thread has been done before.. He has a lot more likes on his main, The Dark Cloud. He's actually made this thread in the past, i think? He used to be a major poster back when he was in CRONOS. Ahh yeah, I remember him now. And Im also pretty sure he has made this post before..
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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Vicious Minotaur
1461
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:48:00 -
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There are massive amounts of people playing this game simultaneously, and an even massive-er amount of people that play the game non-simultaneously.
If all the people who play this game simultaneously [and non-] were put into a building rigged with explosives, and that building was blown to smithereens, the media would cite "massive casualties" or similar.
Not that I, a vicious mythical beast, would advocate for such a heinous scenario.
I am a minotaur.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
397
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Posted - 2014.12.12 23:57:00 -
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The amount of unused space on maps.
Destinys 10 year plan was great.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
643
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:55:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:There are massive amounts of people playing this game simultaneously, and an even massive-er amount of people that play the game non-simultaneously.
If all the people who play this game simultaneously [and non-] were put into a building rigged with explosives, and that building was blown to smithereens, the media would cite "massive casualties" or similar.
Not that I, a vicious mythical beast, would advocate for such a heinous scenario.
roughly 3000 players online at any given time is by no means MASSIVE amount of playercounts. And if you or Rattati/CCP/Pod smokers think it is then i think i might have to throw you off the cliff on manus peak.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2687
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:58:00 -
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Thread repeats.
Work/Fun ratio.
Amount of unused SP I have. |

Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:59:00 -
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Well it's massive in that more than 5,000 players could play at one time. Oh well, here's to dreaming.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2605
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:04:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Could you please explain me what is so MASSIVE on this game? Im really curious about the explaination for that on the main page. It says: Quote:DUST 514-« GÇô a massively multiplayer shooter . So what exactly is so MASSIVELY about this game? Its 16 vs 16 matches? Battlefield can do that better and MAG outclassed the max playercount from dust by miles. Its very limited connection to eve online? And if you say the skilltree then i will find you, grab your body and throw it off the cliff on manus peak. If you dont believe me then check it for yourself: http://dust514.com/
PC and FW mechanics and link to EVE instantly come to mind.
If you continue to ask inane questions CCP will find you, grab your body, and throw it off Manus Peak....or maybe just ban you for being an ass.
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Vicious Minotaur
1461
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:06:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:There are massive amounts of people playing this game simultaneously, and an even massive-er amount of people that play the game non-simultaneously.
If all the people who play this game simultaneously [and non-] were put into a building rigged with explosives, and that building was blown to smithereens, the media would cite "massive casualties" or similar.
Not that I, a vicious mythical beast, would advocate for such a heinous scenario.
roughly 3000 players online at any given time is by no means MASSIVE amount of playercounts. And if you or Rattati/CCP/Pod smokers think it is then i think i might have to throw you off the cliff on manus peak.
Evidently, my mentioning the non-simultaneous playercount, which is much more than 3000, went above your head. As did the referencing of playerbase numbers to a lethal event in which death occurs. Tell yourself that 3000+ human deaths in a single tragedy is not MASSIVE. (remember, we live in today's world)
You can't throw me off of Manus Peak. You are but a midget, in more ways than one.
I am a minotaur.
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:12:00 -
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A massively multiplayer online game (also called MMO and MMOG) is a multiplayer video game which is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. By necessity, they are played on the Internet. MMOs usually have at least one persistent world, however some games differ. These games can be found for most network-capable platforms, including the personal computer, video game console, or smartphones and other mobile devices.
MMOGs can enable players to cooperate and compete with each other on a large scale, and sometimes to interact meaningfully with people around the world.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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G Felix
Titans of Phoenix
356
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:30:00 -
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Hey OP, I think Archduke just found you, grabbed your body, and threw you off the cliff on Manus Peak...
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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jane stalin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2014.12.13 06:54:00 -
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corporations and the connection to EVE qualify dust as an MMO most of the players don't have anything to do with that sort of thing. |

Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
648
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Posted - 2014.12.13 10:04:00 -
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So by that i can aswell claim that COD is a MMO cause thousands of matches are beeing played simultaniously. I dont want a description what a MMO is i want to know whats MASSIVE about dust. The closest thing to what you just sayd would be MAG or battlefield with its large amount of palyers beeing capable to play in a single match not dust with its 32 playercap. And the interactions between players is limited to corperations and ISK transfer. Apart from that we dont even have player trading, a simple and basic feature in every MMORPG. Dust wants to be a FPS and a RPG game at the same time but still lacks the basic features from a RPG.
And no the eve link does not count cause all they can do is drop some OB's at our heads and thats it. This is hardly worth calling "a connection to eve online".
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
781

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Posted - 2014.12.14 02:28:00 -
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The game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Technically every single DUST 514 Mercenary and EVE Online Pilot are on the same server.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Vordred Knight
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
559
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Posted - 2014.12.14 02:28:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:The game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Technically every single DUST 514 Mercenary and EVE Online Pilot are on the same server. #believe
Don't Do Drugs while playing Eve
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
15509
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Posted - 2014.12.14 03:32:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Could you please explain me what is so MASSIVE on this game? Im really curious about the explaination for that on the main page. It says: Quote:DUST 514-« GÇô a massively multiplayer shooter . So what exactly is so MASSIVELY about this game? Its 16 vs 16 matches? Battlefield can do that better and MAG outclassed the max playercount from dust by miles. Its very limited connection to eve online? And if you say the skilltree then i will find you, grab your body and throw it off the cliff on manus peak. If you dont believe me then check it for yourself: http://dust514.com/ Do you see those chats that connect a massive amount of people inside the game? Yea..................... Your answer...is.....chat?
Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube
WoD 514
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1330
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Posted - 2014.12.14 10:12:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:turnover rate
Beautiful answer.
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Union118
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
36
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Posted - 2014.12.14 10:33:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Could you please explain me what is so MASSIVE on this game? Im really curious about the explaination for that on the main page. It says: Quote:DUST 514-« GÇô a massively multiplayer shooter . So what exactly is so MASSIVELY about this game? Its 16 vs 16 matches? Battlefield can do that better and MAG outclassed the max playercount from dust by miles. Its very limited connection to eve online? And if you say the skilltree then i will find you, grab your body and throw it off the cliff on manus peak. If you dont believe me then check it for yourself: http://dust514.com/ Its the skilltree. I like how it grows. This year ill have lots of en rypted presents that will be opened all at once.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Union118
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
36
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Posted - 2014.12.14 10:38:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:The game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Technically every single DUST 514 Mercenary and EVE Online Pilot are on the same server. Umm so why did Dust lose so many players? Game has same concept as MAG and plays like CoD. So where everyone go?
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Her Chosen
Grade No.2
132
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Posted - 2014.12.14 13:40:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Why are you female-dogging about this? Not only that, its been brought up about 1k times. You would think someone with 640 likes would have noticed this thread has been done before..
The man you address is actually a mild genius.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2261
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Posted - 2014.12.14 14:16:00 -
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Union118 wrote:Umm so why did Dust lose so many players? Game has same concept as MAG and plays like CoD. So where everyone go? Same concept as MAG and plays like CoD? 
Not even close to either I would say.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
R.I.P MAG.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
649
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Posted - 2014.12.14 15:23:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:The game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Technically every single DUST 514 Mercenary and EVE Online Pilot are on the same server. So what? Only cause they are sharing the same server doesnt mean that it has a actual impact on the game itself. And 32 players are rather average game numbers and in my opinion too little when you look at the size of the maps. When i read MASSIVE then i would expect as a newbie playercounts of like 60 players+ like battlefield 4 does. Map size and playercount should be a matching thing.
At the moment the max you can setup in a PC match is 2 full squads and a broken squad containing 4 players (16 players). Now there are maps ranging from 4 to 5 objectives which needs to be taken/guarded. By that you need to splitt your squads up to be remotely able to defend the objectives. In my opinion 1 squad should equal 1 objective but that is at the moment not possible.
In order to overcome this problem you should increase the playercount for PC/FW/Skirmish to 48. Basically 24vs24 that would mean you could bring in 4 full squads and each squad can defend/guard a objective so most maps would be covered properly. And your MASSIVE tag would actually be justified.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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SoTa PoP
Titans of Phoenix
5341
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Posted - 2014.12.14 17:51:00 -
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Uhm, yea, by this definition Dust is not an MMO because 32 people *only 16 working together* is not massive by any means.
I can link you the definition of online gaming, which is not MMO, which will also say a game that links players online. Don't confuse this with MMO - MMO means exactly that, massive amounts of players capable of interacting at once. Being on the same server but completely separate is a huge stretch to call it an MMO.
The channels give you guys an excuse to make this claim - and nothing else. I'd appreciate it if GM's didn't try to push false information on us.
Thanks.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Mex-0
243
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Posted - 2014.12.14 21:12:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Thread repeats.
Work/Fun ratio.
Amount of unused SP I have.
I wish you could transfer unused SP... but then people would make new alts and send all that SP to their main...
Meh, I give up on FW.
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DAMIOS82
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
147
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Posted - 2014.12.14 21:21:00 -
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Union118 wrote:GM Archduke wrote:The game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Technically every single DUST 514 Mercenary and EVE Online Pilot are on the same server. Umm so why did Dust lose so many players? Game has same concept as MAG and plays like CoD. So where everyone go?
Because the game had potential, but did not deliver on it's promises. But for some like me, it's the lag. I haven't even played in well over 6-9 months because of it. So all some of us can do is wait for Legion with the better connection. |

Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2687
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Posted - 2014.12.14 21:27:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:The game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Technically every single DUST 514 Mercenary and EVE Online Pilot are on the same server.
So Facebook is a MMO?
It has instanced games and everyone gets to chat on the same server network.
Battlefield could just make up a game world and then add all their servers under neath the title and call it a MMO?
PLanetside 2 is a MMO... Everyone is playing on giant maps and planets together...
DUST is a lobby shooter.
Eve is a MMO.
A Chatroom connection does NOT make DUST a MMO.
CCP's original concept of DUST that you sold us in fanfest's was a MMO... This version is a lobby shooter. |
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
814

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Posted - 2014.12.15 09:49:00 -
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OK, I get it that you are not satisfied with DUST. By definition it's still an MMO, you're thinking 16/32 players can't be considered massive, which is true. But that's not the game, that's a match. Again, the game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Also, you guys are lame 
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1858
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Posted - 2014.12.15 09:56:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:MASSIVELY about this game? / The ISK debt i have.Anyone with sum free iskies? I will loan you some. Really the only thing massive is my wallet and my ****. My four stars, what the hell were you thinking?!?!
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of cat merc/Feathered overlord of all.
My loyalty to the State is undying.
215 boxes...0 keys
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
1861
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Posted - 2014.12.15 09:58:00 -
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G Felix wrote:Hey OP, I think Archduke just found you, grabbed your body, and threw you off the cliff on Manus Peak... More like the bridge on Boulder Ridge.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of cat merc/Feathered overlord of all.
My loyalty to the State is undying.
215 boxes...0 keys
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G Felix
Titans of Phoenix
376
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Posted - 2014.12.15 11:14:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:OK, I get it that you are not satisfied with DUST. By definition it's still an MMO, you're thinking 16/32 players can't be considered massive, which is true. But that's not the game, that's a match. Again, the game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Also, you guys are lame 
Go ahead guys, keep taking shots at Archduke and then see how fast our help tickets start getting answered! It's not his fault the promises from early uprising weren't kept, he's just the guy tasked with solving all of our obnoxious day to day issues. And he's really good at his job.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
656
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Posted - 2014.12.15 12:03:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:OK, I get it that you are not satisfied with DUST. By definition it's still an MMO, you're thinking 16/32 players can't be considered massive, which is true. But that's not the game, that's a match. Again, the game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Also, you guys are lame  Lame? i accepted the challenge and beat you to it. Just give up allready you cant win against me and before Dust turns into a proper MMO pigs will start to fly. Period.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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DootDoot
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
353
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Posted - 2014.12.16 00:05:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:OK, I get it that you are not satisfied with DUST. By definition it's still an MMO, you're thinking 16/32 players can't be considered massive, which is true. But that's not the game, that's a match. Again, the game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. Also, you guys are lame 
Like common... Look at the massive amounts of players playing Battlefield.;.. You could call that number massive even though some think poorly upon the game.
They have dedicated servers running the matches...
They could move all their dedicated servers to one area and name them as a server cluster and start to call Battlefield a MMO?
It makes no sense...
There are games where you can directly connect your smart phone and contribute to that game world... Does that make it a MMO?
Using very very small technicalities that take several attempts at explanation and still doesn't go over... to Put the game in a bracket that it doesn't belong in?
Is just lame.
Do We wish DUST 514 was a MMO? HELL YES.
IS it? Hell NO.
Does it make us as sad as you? HELL YES.
EVE was touted by players and industry professionals alike as a "Real" MMO.
Please don't degrade all the work EVE has done to establish the MMO gaming category as a truly massively epic gaming experience.
Dust is a lobby shooter.
This was how to make a Planet a MMO environment for DUST's IP and CCP was showing us this nearly 8-9 years ago.
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
817

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Posted - 2014.12.17 08:04:00 -
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It's basically your opinion against a clear as day, black and white definition. I understand your points, and yeah, it would be cool if we'd have more player to player interaction and whatnot. Still, no amount of broken logic and piles of valid opinions can change facts. Sorry. And I'm off to work, someone has to reply to all your tickets and stuff.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Zylinfantry
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:25:00 -
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Massive number of Strongboxes xD |
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