KEROSIINI-TERO
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Posted - 2014.12.12 22:50:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Does the OP realize that the suggestion is another special AV RE, and the other would be the current one, except with a slightly slower activation timer, because it was designed to be a trap, not a grenade? we have those. they are called proximity mines.
No, they aren't.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:25:00 -
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People know are annoyed with RE grenade use.
All the people do not realise that grenade use is possible because of still too short activation timer.
Increasing the activation timer (the first possible moment of activation after tossing the RE) WILL fix the grenade use and give people fair chance of reacting.
This means of course that some people still get killed by RE tossed into a room - but now there is a at least an opportunity to react.
FACT: Currently, a slightly plated (not by all means stacked) medium suit can NOT run away from RE if it is tossed straight at his feet, not even if he instantly starts running and is already in sprint while the RE hits ground.
That is by definition example of grenade use.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
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Posted - 2014.12.13 03:12:00 -
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Geo Esp wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:People know are annoyed with RE grenade use.
All the people do not realise that grenade use is possible because of still too short activation timer.
Increasing the activation timer (the first possible moment of activation after tossing the RE) WILL fix the grenade use and give people fair chance of reacting.
This means of course that some people still get killed by RE tossed into a room - but now there is a at least an opportunity to react.
FACT: Currently, a slightly plated (not by all means stacked) medium suit can NOT run away from RE if it is tossed straight at his feet, not even if he instantly starts running and is already in sprint while the RE hits ground.
That is by definition example of grenade use. Would you prefer for me to just throw core nades at you while a logi lays down ammo for me, because I could easily do that and have the same end result of you and your team blowing up, hell it'll probably be more effective and save me suits, but I just love the rush of making it to the endzone and slamming an explosive touchdown on your face
Yes I would prefer.
Core nades DO the same grenade thing - they ARE grenades after all.
Also, being designed as grenades they have built in restrictions (need grenade slot, can carry only one stack of max 2, PRO
version is required for full lethal potential, only Core headshots can kill everything, have a unique beep notification)
RE 'nades' come on top of that.
On the whole I'm not that annoyed at RE grenade use, but masses ARE furious about it.
I am afraid of a wrong nerf in attempt to fix it (those would be throw range, damage, range, passive detactability) and promoting the right fix.
On a sidenote I currently use both REs and grenades, emphasis on nades.
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