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Geo Esp
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Posted - 2014.12.12 10:08:00 -
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don't you wanna try them? Have FUN with them? Setting traps for people who thought just because there suit cost over 100k isk, that they were invincible, and send them raging back to the reality that sometimes brains beats bronze? I mean, you can say "They weren't intended to kill the way they do" but that's really just saying you want to limit creativity and to want to treat a VIDEO GAME as a statistic sheet. I've done way more horrifying things with the Min assaults and scouts with unorthodox fittings that many would consider "not using the suit the way it's intended". To you I say no. I will not play the way YOU want me too, I will not be a mindless drone playing like some chess piece that's only "intended" to be used a certain way just to get pawned by another chess piece. I'm sorry that you see the world around a cage of limits, especially a virtual one. I'm sorry that you thought stacking hp made you the victor. If you want to limit yourself that's fine, get blown up, but nerfs won't be the end of it, me and everyone else with an ounce of creativity will just keep on using suits and equipment "the way there not intended" until this whole game is nerfed six feet under. So in the mean time i'll make Heavies faster than your assualts, I'll stack damage mods on my side arms, I'll use the plasma cannon. By the way, I mostly hear "nerf the c4" from PC players, so why not just remove them from PC and stop using proto suits in pubs if you're not prepared to lose them. Because its ok to use my speed heavy to rush behind the enemy and mow them down single handedly, but god forbid I use c4. And another question, how many times do you even see it used in game? Try not to exagerate, like you do whenever you're trying to get something nerfed. I rarely see it used, and I rarely see it used well. Me personally, I use them a ton but the majority of my kills still come from CQC and yolo'ing around. I think that its just human mentality to get angry when your quickly out stepped and scream unfair, you know c4 is int the game, you know it's mostly used by speed heads, you know you always die when you follow them, So why,why do you keep following them. Here's a good TIP equip a scanner, that way you can see if theres c4 before you follow, hell use a flux to clear them out before you enter a a room, because really it's not like if I run into an enemy all I have to do is pull out c4 and win. No i'll probably die by the time the animation of pulling c4 out stops. Besides, Why do you people LOVE trench warfare, because that's like almost every ambush game. Two teams trying to muscle each other while rarely ever flanking. Hell, if I manage to set c4, and it rarely ever happens, and I manage to get c4 on top of everyone while everyone is shooting at me and passive scan gets me on everybody's' radar, then you deserve to be on the killfeed along with your whole camping team. That's my rant. Use em before you lose em, and for the Dev's; You can do nothing from this point on that involves nerfing and I guarantee you none of your loyal players will go anywhere. It's sad to see you guys fall for a minority of player's bluff. Yeah I'm certain that they are a minority. I'm pretty sure the real majority rarely check the forums. Kinda would explain why the most likes on a dev post barley rach 50+ when you supposedly have 300,000 players. lol. That being said, make a crazy class, just have fun. |
Geo Esp
That F'N sniper...
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Posted - 2014.12.12 10:17:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Geo Esp wrote:don't you wanna try them? Have FUN with them? Setting traps for people who thought just because there suit cost over 100k isk, that they were invincible, and send them raging back to the reality that sometimes brains beats bronze? I mean, you can say "They weren't intended to kill the way they do" but that's really just saying you want to limit creativity and to want to treat a VIDEO GAME as a statistic sheet. I've done way more horrifying things with the Min assaults and scouts with unorthodox fittings that many would consider "not using the suit the way it's intended". To you I say no. I will not play the way YOU want me too, I will not be a mindless drone playing like some chess piece that's only "intended" to be used a certain way just to get pawned by another chess piece. I'm sorry that you see the world around a cage of limits, especially a virtual one. I'm sorry that you thought stacking hp made you the victor. If you want to limit yourself that's fine, get blown up, but nerfs won't be the end of it, me and everyone else with an ounce of creativity will just keep on using suits and equipment "the way there not intended" until this whole game is nerfed six feet under. So in the mean time i'll make Heavies faster than your assualts, I'll stack damage mods on my side arms, I'll use the plasma cannon. By the way, I mostly hear "nerf the c4" from PC players, so why not just remove them from PC and stop using proto suits in pubs if you're not prepared to lose them. Because its ok to use my speed heavy to rush behind the enemy and mow them down single handedly, but god forbid I use c4. And another question, how many times do you even see it used in game? Try not to exagerate, like you do whenever you're trying to get something nerfed. I rarely see it used, and I rarely see it used well. Me personally, I use them a ton but the majority of my kills still come from CQC and yolo'ing around. I think that its just human mentality to get angry when your quickly out stepped and scream unfair, you know c4 is int the game, you know it's mostly used by speed heads, you know you always die when you follow them, So why,why do you keep following them. Here's a good TIP equip a scanner, that way you can see if theres c4 before you follow, hell use a flux to clear them out before you enter a a room, because really it's not like if I run into an enemy all I have to do is pull out c4 and win. No i'll probably die by the time the animation of pulling c4 out stops. Besides, Why do you people LOVE trench warfare, because that's like almost every ambush game. Two teams trying to muscle each other while rarely ever flanking. Hell, if I manage to set c4, and it rarely ever happens, and I manage to get c4 on top of everyone while everyone is shooting at me and passive scan gets me on everybody's' radar, then you deserve to be on the killfeed along with your whole camping team. That's my rant. Use em before you lose em, and for the Dev's; You can do nothing from this point on that involves nerfing and I guarantee you none of your loyal players will go anywhere. It's sad to see you guys fall for a minority of player's bluff. Yeah I'm certain that they are a minority. I'm pretty sure the real majority rarely check the forums. Kinda would explain why the most likes on a dev post barley rach 50+ when you supposedly have 300,000 players. lol. That being said, make a crazy class, just have fun. I wonder what's behind this wall of text. Also - it's a remote explosive. You place it where you think people will be then detonate it - that isn't changing, at all. Stop the tears, they make no sense what so ever. you shouldn't be using RE's like nades to begin with - you have actual ******* nades for that.
Well to summarize, I basically mean I could pull out a nano hive and spam core nades into a room and nobody bats an eye, if I use c4 everybody loses there mind
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Geo Esp
That F'N sniper...
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Posted - 2014.12.12 10:21:00 -
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Vesperz wrote:... Sooo my tactics of setting traps to retards who don't look, have no awareness, make the dumb mistake of chasing after me hungry for the kill, only to get blown up for not thinking... are getting nerfed to AV status? I have those already, they're called proximity mines.
CCP thinks that these guys who play the game all day and take breaks on the forums make up the majority, it's sad that they have given them this much attention to alter play styles of everybody else just so next week they can scream " NERF THIS NOW, IT "STILL" KILLED MY PROTOSUIT" |
Geo Esp
That F'N sniper...
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Posted - 2014.12.12 10:25:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Geo Esp wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Geo Esp wrote:don't you wanna try them? Have FUN with them? Setting traps for people who thought just because there suit cost over 100k isk, that they were invincible, and send them raging back to the reality that sometimes brains beats bronze? I mean, you can say "They weren't intended to kill the way they do" but that's really just saying you want to limit creativity and to want to treat a VIDEO GAME as a statistic sheet. I've done way more horrifying things with the Min assaults and scouts with unorthodox fittings that many would consider "not using the suit the way it's intended". To you I say no. I will not play the way YOU want me too, I will not be a mindless drone playing like some chess piece that's only "intended" to be used a certain way just to get pawned by another chess piece. I'm sorry that you see the world around a cage of limits, especially a virtual one. I'm sorry that you thought stacking hp made you the victor. If you want to limit yourself that's fine, get blown up, but nerfs won't be the end of it, me and everyone else with an ounce of creativity will just keep on using suits and equipment "the way there not intended" until this whole game is nerfed six feet under. So in the mean time i'll make Heavies faster than your assualts, I'll stack damage mods on my side arms, I'll use the plasma cannon. By the way, I mostly hear "nerf the c4" from PC players, so why not just remove them from PC and stop using proto suits in pubs if you're not prepared to lose them. Because its ok to use my speed heavy to rush behind the enemy and mow them down single handedly, but god forbid I use c4. And another question, how many times do you even see it used in game? Try not to exagerate, like you do whenever you're trying to get something nerfed. I rarely see it used, and I rarely see it used well. Me personally, I use them a ton but the majority of my kills still come from CQC and yolo'ing around. I think that its just human mentality to get angry when your quickly out stepped and scream unfair, you know c4 is int the game, you know it's mostly used by speed heads, you know you always die when you follow them, So why,why do you keep following them. Here's a good TIP equip a scanner, that way you can see if theres c4 before you follow, hell use a flux to clear them out before you enter a a room, because really it's not like if I run into an enemy all I have to do is pull out c4 and win. No i'll probably die by the time the animation of pulling c4 out stops. Besides, Why do you people LOVE trench warfare, because that's like almost every ambush game. Two teams trying to muscle each other while rarely ever flanking. Hell, if I manage to set c4, and it rarely ever happens, and I manage to get c4 on top of everyone while everyone is shooting at me and passive scan gets me on everybody's' radar, then you deserve to be on the killfeed along with your whole camping team. That's my rant. Use em before you lose em, and for the Dev's; You can do nothing from this point on that involves nerfing and I guarantee you none of your loyal players will go anywhere. It's sad to see you guys fall for a minority of player's bluff. Yeah I'm certain that they are a minority. I'm pretty sure the real majority rarely check the forums. Kinda would explain why the most likes on a dev post barley rach 50+ when you supposedly have 300,000 players. lol. That being said, make a crazy class, just have fun. I wonder what's behind this wall of text. Also - it's a remote explosive. You place it where you think people will be then detonate it - that isn't changing, at all. Stop the tears, they make no sense what so ever. you shouldn't be using RE's like nades to begin with - you have actual ******* nades for that. Well to summarize, I basically mean I could pull out a nano hive and spam core nades into a room and nobody bats an eye, if I use c4 everybody loses there mind uhm, yea, That's sort of the purpose of the grenade. You trying to use RE's like a grenade shows a problem with the RE's design. How is that not the simplest thing in the world to see? Something that explodes isn't supposed to kill you...read my post just a little and i sorta explain what I'm trying to say. Don't take everything you hear as law, 2+2 doesn't equal 5 if someone told you it did, open your mind the to the possibilities rather than baring in them with limits |
Geo Esp
That F'N sniper...
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:23:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Okay, there's this awesome key above the shift key on the right hand side of the keyboard called the "enter" key. When you use it, you split up your text into seperate lines! See? Just like that! Cool huh? A line break is a universal signal to the reader's brain that it's okay to breathe now and process the section that was just read. It's also a very useful way to keep track of where you are in a wall of text! It is EXTREMELY important that you use this key a couple of times if your post is more than five sentences long, otherwise it will be extremely annoying and difficult to read. Lets see what happens to your post with liberal application of the Enter key: Geo Esp wrote:don't you wanna try them? Have FUN with them? Setting traps for people who thought just because there suit cost over 100k isk, that they were invincible, and send them raging back to the reality that sometimes brains beats bronze?
I mean, you can say "They weren't intended to kill the way they do" but that's really just saying you want to limit creativity and to want to treat a VIDEO GAME as a statistic sheet. I've done way more horrifying things with the Min assaults and scouts with unorthodox fittings that many would consider "not using the suit the way it's intended". To you I say no. I will not play the way YOU want me too, I will not be a mindless drone playing like some chess piece that's only "intended" to be used a certain way just to get pawned by another chess piece.
I'm sorry that you see the world around a cage of limits, especially a virtual one. I'm sorry that you thought stacking hp made you the victor. If you want to limit yourself that's fine, get blown up, but nerfs won't be the end of it, me and everyone else with an ounce of creativity will just keep on using suits and equipment "the way there not intended" until this whole game is nerfed six feet under. So in the mean time i'll make Heavies faster than your assualts, I'll stack damage mods on my side arms, I'll use the plasma cannon.
By the way, I mostly hear "nerf the c4" from PC players, so why not just remove them from PC and stop using proto suits in pubs if you're not prepared to lose them. Because its ok to use my speed heavy to rush behind the enemy and mow them down single handedly, but god forbid I use c4.
And another question, how many times do you even see it used in game? Try not to exagerate, like you do whenever you're trying to get something nerfed. I rarely see it used, and I rarely see it used well. Me personally, I use them a ton but the majority of my kills still come from CQC and yolo'ing around. I think that its just human mentality to get angry when your quickly out stepped and scream unfair, you know c4 is int the game, you know it's mostly used by speed heads, you know you always die when you follow them, So why,why do you keep following them.
Here's a good TIP equip a scanner, that way you can see if theres c4 before you follow, hell use a flux to clear them out before you enter a a room, because really it's not like if I run into an enemy all I have to do is pull out c4 and win. No i'll probably die by the time the animation of pulling c4 out stops.
Besides, Why do you people LOVE trench warfare, because that's like almost every ambush game. Two teams trying to muscle each other while rarely ever flanking. Hell, if I manage to set c4, and it rarely ever happens, and I manage to get c4 on top of everyone while everyone is shooting at me and passive scan gets me on everybody's' radar, then you deserve to be on the killfeed along with your whole camping team.
That's my rant. Use em before you lose em, and for the Dev's; You can do nothing from this point on that involves nerfing and I guarantee you none of your loyal players will go anywhere. It's sad to see you guys fall for a minority of player's bluff. Yeah I'm certain that they are a minority. I'm pretty sure the real majority rarely check the forums. Kinda would explain why the most likes on a dev post barley rach 50+ when you supposedly have 300,000 players. lol. That being said, make a crazy class, just have fun. lol alrighty fixed it got it thanks for shedding light on my ignorance, I'd prefer more people like you rather than the ones just waiting to insult to make themselves feel better
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Geo Esp
That F'N sniper...
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:26:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Does the OP realize that the suggestion is another special AV RE, and the other would be the current one, except with a slightly slower activation timer, because it was designed to be a trap, not a grenade?
yeah I understood that, i'm just pointing out why people shouldn't ask for it to be nerfed, like it's currently being yelled to, and see how fun they are before they eventually do get nerfed
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Geo Esp
That F'N sniper...
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:29:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Does the OP realize that the suggestion is another special AV RE, and the other would be the current one, except with a slightly slower activation timer, because it was designed to be a trap, not a grenade?
lol c'mon man, I'm currently being enlisted into the army, and if I ever want to use c4 as a gernade to save my ass, if it's even possible to use c4 as a grenade, i'm throwing that frisbee |
Geo Esp
That F'N sniper...
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:34:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Geo Esp wrote:Vesperz wrote:... Sooo my tactics of setting traps to retards who don't look, have no awareness, make the dumb mistake of chasing after me hungry for the kill, only to get blown up for not thinking... are getting nerfed to AV status? I have those already, they're called proximity mines. CCP thinks that these guys who play the game all day and take breaks on the forums make up the majority, it's sad that they have given them this much attention to alter play styles of everybody else just so next week they can scream " NERF THIS NOW, IT "STILL" KILLED MY PROTOSUIT" Well, to be fair, we don't sound like we couldn't pass grade school when we type - so we're bound to be heard more then you. And the only nerf most of us are asking for is RE's because of how insane they are in PC matches - they dominate outside there actual intended use as planted charges. That's a problem plain and simple. Get over it scrub.
I wasn't describing you with my reply to him, but hey if the shoe fits wear it. I assume you no life this game then? Should I crack open a medical book and make fun of your shape and health or can I just hear your side of the story to why remote explosives should be nerfed? |
Geo Esp
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:38:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:People know are annoyed with RE grenade use.
All the people do not realise that grenade use is possible because of still too short activation timer.
Increasing the activation timer (the first possible moment of activation after tossing the RE) WILL fix the grenade use and give people fair chance of reacting. This means of course that some people still get killed by RE tossed into a room - but now there is a at least an opportunity to react.
FACT: Currently, a slightly plated (not by all means stacked) medium suit can NOT run away from RE if it is tossed straight at his feet, not even if he instantly starts running and is already in sprint while the RE hits ground. That is by definition example of grenade use. Would you prefer for me to just throw core nades at you while a logi lays down ammo for me, because I could easily do that and have the same end result of you and your team blowing up, hell it'll probably be more effective and save me suits, but I just love the rush of making it to the endzone and slamming an explosive touchdown on your face |
Geo Esp
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:42:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:It's funny when people say veteran players want nerfs to make sure they don't get killed. Those same people complain about stomps, LOL.
To the vets I say one thing: Chromosome
Also OP rides the shortbus to school when he compares RE's to core grenades. Lol i kinda enjoy stomps, I'm a beta player as well but I probably don't play as much as the other beta players do, because I love popping there heads off with my sniper in ambush (no redline to cry about) hence my corp name |
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Geo Esp
That F'N sniper...
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:46:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I thought there were just going to be new AV focused REs?
Has it been updated?
Hmm I'll go check
nah I just thought this be the best way to have my voice heard about the c4, some people just won't give you the time or day if you're not in the thousands with likes, besides you get a little insight on how fun they can be as traps. Personally the grenade thing is just as often as a STD sniper ohk you with a head shot, in other words, not that often but the one time it does happen people rage |
Geo Esp
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:03:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Mister Goo wrote:RE's are supposed to be used as traps as you stated. They are a special form of equipment used by being placed and triggered when the user wants it to explode.
A grenade is a form of ammunition and should be restocked in a nano hive. Thats the reason they don't do as much damage as an RE.
RE's are Equipment and as equipment should be treated like Drop Links and Nano Hives and only restocked at the supply depot.
The comparison of throwing a Core Locus all day and no complaints vs an RE is invalid on 3 fronts
Core Locus vs RE 1. Cost: 14160 vs 1500 2. Damage: 600 vs 1250 3: Skil: lvl 5 vs lvl 1
If you want to murder a proto suit solo with an RE then setting a trap and luring them is perfectly fine. But being able to throw RE's, triggering them, replenishing with a nano hive, rinse and repeat, needs to stop. Mindlessly spamming RE's is the problem NOT using them to kill proto suits as you say.
Good for you if you lure a proto suit around a corner and blow it up working as intended, throwing RE's grenade style not as intended.
Strongly agree. So in each instant the Proto still dies and still rages, anyways i see what ya mean. How 'bout this? Infantry remotes that are tossed like proxies (not very far) and only do damage to infantry, and an av one that can be tossed but do no damage to infantry or at the max of 300hp so that if you do manage to toss them around a whole team then every body not wearing there precious proto suits die. Anyway, if a scout snuck up on a solo proto and tosses c4, then that means they just decide to kill them with a c4, they could of done it with knife lol "c4 doesn't kill people, people kill people" just some pro-c4 humor. But honestly I think they are fine the way they are, If you run proto in a pub you have to know that you are still capable of dying, they shouldn't have to make exceptions every time you die. Same way you can still be run over by an LAV no matter what suit you're in. It's a matter of awareness. |
Geo Esp
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:07:00 -
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Geo Esp
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:17:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Geo Esp wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Geo Esp wrote:Vesperz wrote:... Sooo my tactics of setting traps to retards who don't look, have no awareness, make the dumb mistake of chasing after me hungry for the kill, only to get blown up for not thinking... are getting nerfed to AV status? I have those already, they're called proximity mines. CCP thinks that these guys who play the game all day and take breaks on the forums make up the majority, it's sad that they have given them this much attention to alter play styles of everybody else just so next week they can scream " NERF THIS NOW, IT "STILL" KILLED MY PROTOSUIT" Well, to be fair, we don't sound like we couldn't pass grade school when we type - so we're bound to be heard more then you. And the only nerf most of us are asking for is RE's because of how insane they are in PC matches - they dominate outside there actual intended use as planted charges. That's a problem plain and simple. Get over it scrub. I wasn't describing you with my reply to him, but hey if the shoe fits wear it. I assume you no life this game then? Should I crack open a medical book and make fun of your shape and health or can I just hear your side of the story to why remote explosives should be nerfed? I've no idea why you even bothered posting this. I don't want to read more examples of insecure kids on the forums. Please keep that to yourself. kk but hey man, you're the one who felt that you had to try to insult me with a post that wasn't even for you, but I guess i'm the insecure one lol |
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Posted - 2014.12.13 01:36:00 -
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Koch Rosenzweig wrote:"Before Remote Explosives get Nerfed into pure AV..."
Can someone explain that? will be a new updated or some like that? With all the nerf screaming, you can expect that it will eventually be hit by a nerf hammer, and everybody knows that CCP likes to hit things a little too hard. There is currently no word on it ( its ok for now) but just expect people to cry about it some more. This post was meant to bring awareness, that lack of awareness gets you blown up... |
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Posted - 2014.12.13 04:34:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:For the record about proto suits you claim to kill with RE's and them raging. Most people that use those suits can spam the full fit longer than you can spam your RE so i doubt they'll be raging.
Doesn't take away the fact the nerf is coming and is justified I can still hear them scream on the mics sometimes and still get hatemail. They rage because they die not because they lose isk |
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