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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:16:00 -
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If memory serves, the 180mm HP values were just 50% greater than 120mm yeah?
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4029
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:24:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Part of the reason Shield Vehicles are so much better right now is that there isn't an Amarrian AV weapon, and Plasma Cannons are still not that good against vehicles, especially Dropships, but also HAVs, even Gunnlogis and Sicas.
I say we make a Breach Plasma Cannon! Give it the same projectile velocity stats as they used to have, but make it do 2500-3000 direct damage. I honestly just want a Cannon that has the old velocity stats because those were the stats I liked the most, but I think it would be fair to give it a hefty Damage boost in exchange for them.
I have no idea what this has to do with 180mm plates...
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4030
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:45:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Part of the reason Shield Vehicles are so much better right now is that there isn't an Amarrian AV weapon, and Plasma Cannons are still not that good against vehicles, especially Dropships, but also HAVs, even Gunnlogis and Sicas.
I say we make a Breach Plasma Cannon! Give it the same projectile velocity stats as they used to have, but make it do 2500-3000 direct damage. I honestly just want a Cannon that has the old velocity stats because those were the stats I liked the most, but I think it would be fair to give it a hefty Damage boost in exchange for them. I have no idea what this has to do with 180mm plates... Reread the OP and you'll discover that this thread is just as much about Shield Vehicle superiority as it so about 180mm plates. In fact Shield Vehicle superiority is the issue that True is trying to address. Im just proposing another solution.
On the contrary, imbalance issues have nothing to do with AV. If you look at the raw numbers between a shield HAV and an armor HAV, the Shield HAV is superior is several ways. a 180mm plate would push armor to be superior eHP while the shield HAV would maintain its superior regen rate. AV has nothing to do with it, its a direct comparison between Shield vehicles and Armor vehicles.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4030
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Posted - 2014.12.17 22:09:00 -
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Assuming my math is correct (which is dubious depending on the hour) a purely shield tanked Gunnlogi will have 13% less eHP on average than a Madrugar but will recover it 35% faster. If the shield vehicle fits armor plates (which I would like to stop the practice of) its eHP will tend to exceed that of the Madrugar. That aside, I'm fine with the Shield HAV recovering its eHP 35% faster, but if that's the case, the difference in eHP should be closer to 35% as well. Conversely you could reduce the shield's eHP to around a 35% difference or reduce its regen rate to a difference of 13%, but I think that's less preferable.
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