OP. If you are not a logi you shouldn't have a ton of equipment. BW enforces this. What you are saying literally translates to "I can't get around the rules anymore. Using suit swapping/respawning I was able to run a slayer suit while still logi supporting. Now if I want to logi support for my team I have to actually BE a logi."

You will get no sympathy here.

That's just it - that's the only argument you have in the defense of this. "I can't blow up tanks." You can still do literally everything else - but you can't set up traps in the middle of the road for easy WP and kills.

Yea, defiantly no sympathy here. Go earn your SP and kills.

But you can support them - you have a choice of 4 logi's.

Why do scouts get to be demolition experts? It makes way more sense that a player in a suit built for equipment would use it - while the scout built for speed and assassination wouldn't rely on high explosives.

And after you place all your RE's - in that logi suit switch to a slayer version of it - wa-la - you have remotes and a slayer-like suit.

Having both is a bit much considering costs of risk vs reward

So, you find it acceptable you can place RE's enough to down a tank if it's casually driving... A tank worth way more then your proto suit...

But it's not acceptable that you have to use proto to do it?

This is what I mean by your ignoring risk vs reward, the fundamental this game is built upon.

I stopped reading after the first line.

ISK is a factor. Ignoring it is you ignoring parts of this game to suit yourself. Balance in this game is made up of Risk vs Reward - so ISK will always play a factor.

If your willing to throw away that aspect of this game then your opinion isn't worth further argument. When you can come up with a better reasoning then blindly ignoring how this game operates then we can continue to discuss why it's inappropriate for RE's to be placed casually with intention of destroying 500k tanks with no risk to themselves as they jump into a slayer suit and go do something else.

No offense.

Now your pointing out that there's more to balance then just Risk vs Reward - but ignoring it completely is just faulty.

and that 70k tank - you could of just ignored it - it's going to die to MLT swarms as soon as someone is pissed enough to hop into the AV free suit.

Why do you need RE's to take it down? Why is it that it takes pretty much the same to also down a 500k tank?

The balance is hard to strike - which is why ignoring aspects of this game is a no-no. Bandwidth has problems - one of them isn't RE's wanting free and easy kills as they go do something else.

That tank could cost 10k - you're still losing nothing and taking from another. But reality is that a tank worth nearly a mill is at the same jeopardy as that cheap tank. Ignoring that is wrong

O, and scanners is a proper solution - but it's also just a hard counter that your basically requiring tankers to adjusts there fits to have survivability against your no-loss strategy. That isn't justified. Tanks should choose between fighting other vehicles or infantry then have to worry bout infantry AV or other tanks - RE's being used as more then support AV is wrong.

Though, I admit if a tanker lets you place 3 'ON' him it should just auto kill that bad tanker, lol.

i dunno man, i'm a logi and am still doing my thing

oh, so now we're comparing a stacked tank vs MLT AV?

Yeah.... how about proto swarms vs stacked tank, you can even let em have a third repair mod. Swarms would get a damage bonus - and throw in a Min commando those swarms will for sure get the job done. ;)

But, seriously, down to it all - your asking for free kills then the ability go to do something else. It's like you want to fish without actually standing there so that you can play football at the same time.

Yeah, would be cool, but it's not a good balance.

Wait? What?

It's not built in.

And you can place those RE's anywhere - the tanker doesn't have to rush anything, he can just simply try to leave his own red-line.

If you want to spam RE's then you'll need to dedicate your suit to it - right? Just like everyone else trying to do there role? But you want to be able to do that AND another role.

How can you not see this as wrong?