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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:03:00 -
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I was wondering if the magsec smg is good? Is anyone using it?
EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
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Bojo The Mighty
Condor Squad
5205
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:13:00 -
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Not that good of a gun:
Divert assets towards SMG
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:14:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Not that good of a gun:
Divert assets towards SMG
Should be good in CQC? It has a lot of kick.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:16:00 -
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I use it on some fits (only have lv1 operation), and I think it's ok, and can get kills with it, but most people seem to hate it.
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Edau Skir2
duna corp
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:16:00 -
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I use the magsec and get a fair few kills with it. It's what saves me a lot of the time whilst I'm sniping. Standard smg has too much kick, and too much dispersion to be of any use. |
Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:17:00 -
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Seems like a good complement to a shotgun assault for example. More range than SMG.
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Edau Skir2
duna corp
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:19:00 -
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Range, accuracy, tighter hip fire spread, I use it almost exclusively. Even on a HMG fit! |
G Felix
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:23:00 -
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In my experience the Breach SMG consistently outperforms the Magsec. I used the adv versions in my test fits.
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brett morris518
is well hung
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:51:00 -
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I have it all the way skilled up.. When u do that it doesn't jump around like a sum b*tch. Just never got used to the SMG I guess. Just to be funny I run around sometimes with it in both slots.. One of the only weapons I bought a BPO of. U don't see the proto variant in the kill feed too much, but when u do, it might just be me hehe |
Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:52:00 -
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Weapon is mediocre. Supposedly long range, but has bad ironsights and tons of kick.
My Caldari purist only fits it on Sentinel fittings, though I may change that soon. It is quite bad in CQC, to the point I prefer the Bolt Pistol. Long range? Please. With the amount of kick and ironsights, I'll take the Bolt Pistol over it, too.
Variants would help, but CCP no likey weapon variations.
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:01:00 -
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I use it on my commando bolt pistol combination while the rail riffle is needed to keep it all caldari. Yet the gun isn't that great and since armor is on top you won't see any buffs anytime soon.
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brett morris518
is well hung
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:11:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Weapon is mediocre. Supposedly long range, but has bad ironsights and tons of kick.
My Caldari purist only fits it on Sentinel fittings, though I may change that soon. It is quite bad in CQC, to the point I prefer the Bolt Pistol. Long range? Please. With the amount of kick and ironsights, I'll take the Bolt Pistol over it, too.
Variants would help, but CCP no likey weapon variations.
True.. But I got drunk, and dumped skills into it.. And come to find out its pretty damn steady.. Or maybe I just love the sound it makes haha |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:18:00 -
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The klaky is pretty awesome ...its a ******* nail driver .
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brett morris518
is well hung
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:35:00 -
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Oh, and I don't know how many damn head shots I have acquired with it because the kick just makes it trail from center mass to the dome about halfway through the clip.. The sound of magsec + the sound of head shot.. Priceless.. Blueprint style.. No shame, ain't no thang to put a magsec shot right through yo brain. |
Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:41:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:Oh, and I don't know how many damn head shots I have acquired with it because the kick just makes it trail from center mass to the dome about halfway through the clip.. The sound of magsec + the sound of head shot.. Priceless.. Blueprint style.. No shame, ain't no thang to put a magsec shot right through yo brain.
This is why it in theory should be better than a regular SMG for CQC engagements. Its why the RR outperformed the CR previously. Dead accurate but high kick.
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brett morris518
is well hung
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:46:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:brett morris518 wrote:Oh, and I don't know how many damn head shots I have acquired with it because the kick just makes it trail from center mass to the dome about halfway through the clip.. The sound of magsec + the sound of head shot.. Priceless.. Blueprint style.. No shame, ain't no thang to put a magsec shot right through yo brain. This is why it in theory should be better than a regular SMG for CQC engagements. Its why the RR outperformed the CR previously. Dead accurate but high kick.
Exactly ... Or are you being a smart ass? I can't tell :/ |
Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:48:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:brett morris518 wrote:Oh, and I don't know how many damn head shots I have acquired with it because the kick just makes it trail from center mass to the dome about halfway through the clip.. The sound of magsec + the sound of head shot.. Priceless.. Blueprint style.. No shame, ain't no thang to put a magsec shot right through yo brain. This is why it in theory should be better than a regular SMG for CQC engagements. Its why the RR outperformed the CR previously. Dead accurate but high kick. Exactly ... Or are you being a smart ass? I can't tell :/
I'm having a serious discussion here.
Yet, no-one seems to use the magsec, why? Is everyone in this game just bandwagoning?
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brett morris518
is well hung
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:56:00 -
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What?! Noooo...can't be people doing that!!! But really, it is a good weapon.. Put it and a burst or tactical assault rifle on a min assault like I've been doing since right after the magsec came out... And don't anyone start with all the races of weapons I mix up.. I do what I want!! Assault rifles for range and shields, magsec for armor.. Or flaylock pistol.. I use that on them too.. Or don't listen to me cuz I just like to have fun so I get a kick out of bodies flying through the air.. I know, I run fun stuff, don't I?! :D |
Maitue Mae
Involuntary Manslaughter
124
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:25:00 -
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Magsec is the Caldari Mercenary's perfect sidearm. I use it like a Gallente Blaster Rifle in CQC, and it compliments the RR perfectly for this Range. Keypoint-Reload while strafing behind cover.
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:28:00 -
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Honestly, a shotgun assault (gallente assault for example) with magsec sidearm, 1-2 sidearm damage mods, could be great.
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brett morris518
is well hung
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:30:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Honestly, a shotgun assault (gallente assault for example) with magsec sidearm, 1-2 sidearm damage mods, could be great.
Actually it is great!! I run a speed tanked min assault like this too... Shhh, don't tell anyone haha |
Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:35:00 -
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lvl3 prof... never use it :)
I think I must dust it and start running with it.
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Mobius Wyvern
Sky-FIRE
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Posted - 2014.12.11 12:33:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:I was wondering if the magsec smg is good? Is anyone using it?
I have the Kaalakiota Magsec. I like it just fine.
I actually use it as a sidearm on my Viziam Laser Rifle fits. Burn their shield off and then drop their armor even out at medium range.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1395
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Posted - 2014.12.11 12:43:00 -
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Nope not when good old SMG's around
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
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Posted - 2014.12.11 12:54:00 -
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Between the charge time and the recoil the Magsec is unimpressive. On the other hand the Bolt Pistol is a great side arm! Good damage, range, accuracy, hell you can even kill a few Minmatar heavies with the thing so long as you are at a good range.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:11:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:I was wondering if the magsec smg is good? Is anyone using it?
It's my only sidearm and it's a good gun .
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Meeko Fent
True Illuminate
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:34:00 -
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MagSec is ok when you look at it like a baby AR
Long range it is not, but it does have reasonable range to engage guys at, and can deal good damage.
The charge time is something to be mindful of.
I would say the MS is a good sidearm for when you need to shoot farther then the SMG.
Its extremely meh in CQC, but at range or if you get practice down, it's fine. Not a very good main sidearm for a frontline fit, anything else would be better suited there, but good for skirmish fits where you need a ok gun for CQC that can also sub out your primary if you run out of bullets w/no hives.
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Ku Shala
The Generals
1050
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:03:00 -
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magsec is better if you re not uber strafing its deadly accurate you just have to find the range sweetspot which is 10-20 m more than the smg
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5030
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:29:00 -
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I've been using the Ion Pistol as my main sidearm most of the time once it released. |
Valor Goat
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:14:00 -
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Compare the Magsec SMG to the Breach SMG and you get it's not fine.
I would love to have it get a CQC overall buff so that it can be an actual thing on my Cal Assault (ARR + Magsec is a crappy combo since they are both anti-armor and are both better in range fights)
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:20:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:I use the magsec and get a fair few kills with it. It's what saves me a lot of the time whilst I'm sniping. Standard smg has too much kick, and too much dispersion to be of any use.
I actually have to agree with this as a combat sniper. I don't do it a lot, but the Magsec's range is quite handy. Picks people off before they get to you.
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Vesta Opalus
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
234
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:27:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:brett morris518 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:brett morris518 wrote:Oh, and I don't know how many damn head shots I have acquired with it because the kick just makes it trail from center mass to the dome about halfway through the clip.. The sound of magsec + the sound of head shot.. Priceless.. Blueprint style.. No shame, ain't no thang to put a magsec shot right through yo brain. This is why it in theory should be better than a regular SMG for CQC engagements. Its why the RR outperformed the CR previously. Dead accurate but high kick. Exactly ... Or are you being a smart ass? I can't tell :/ I'm having a serious discussion here. Yet, no-one seems to use the magsec, why? - Is everyone in this game just bandwagoning? - Aim assist not working good with the magsec? 99% of the players use it.
I dont use it because it makes a poor sidearm.
Compared to the SMG or flaylock it takes a longer time to pull out and begin firing due to the charge up.
When you do begin to fire the gun hops all over the place and begins to lose accuracy very quick. In comparison the SMG can fire half its clip before it starts to lose it, and you can just stop firing and begin firing very quickly to regain accuracy (again a big difference because of the charge mechanic on the magsec).
In addition if you are playing peekaboo with someone around cover at close ranges the magsec is a big liability compared to running an SMG/Flaylock/Scrambler pistol/etc.
tldr; its got the worst traits of the rail rifle and assault rail rifle without a range advantage to balance it out. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5420
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:38:00 -
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I can't recall being killed by a Mag Sec in months
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Edau Skir2
duna corp
62
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Posted - 2014.12.11 17:03:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I can't recall being killed by a Mag Sec in months
Without meaning to sound arrogant or the like, you probably haven't run upto me whilst I've been holding a Sniper. I'd magsec you to hell or at least try to! |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.11 17:13:00 -
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The Magsec on my Caldari alt is actually pretty good without skills it's **** but that's about any weapon.
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
433
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Posted - 2014.12.11 18:35:00 -
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I really tried to love this gun, but it underperforms compared to the smg. It is not a precise weapon, even with skills invested. You can do good work with it, but not as consistant as the smg (personally, i prefer the breach smg).
I think either a reduction to kick or reduction to spool time in the form of variant models would be great.
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