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sabre prime wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

SOCOM Tier-1 wrote:

Give me a REAL reason that the Amarr surpass our Federation in any way, shape, or form. I await your response.

I have given you all of these things.

The Amarr Empire comprises the greater part of High Security Space, controlling almost 700 sovereign Systems, all united under the one true God and rule benevolently by the Heir Families and the Empress. it is currently the most stable space in New Eden, which given its sheer size is a feat unto itself, and its people have very soldier qualities of life.

It is the second most ethnically diverse entity in the cluster, even discounting its slave populations, many of which in recent years have been emancipated at the decree of the Empress, sparking a new social wave of emancipations amongst Holders throughout the Empire, even those stubborn enough to be called conservatives.

The Empire has the greatest mineral wealth in the cluster as well exporting massive quantities of raw materials to the Caldari state, and maintains a relatively close economy which ensures the economy remains relatively stable. This is evident in that the Empire has financially bailed out the State through economic stimulus packages.

While the Amarr has slipped back several years in terms of technologies that affect the daily lives of its citizenry, due to this closed economy, it has been at the fore front of military research and development for several years now, producing the first iterations of the cloned immortal soldiers and of course the TIII Tactical Destroyer.

The Empire has also in the last century had a strong impact on the Cluster as a whole working with the Gallente to establish relative Galactic peace under the leadership of former Emperor Heideran V, awarded the Gallentean Aldonis award for his efforts towards peace.

Recent census reports suggest that roughly 97% of the Empire is unified by the Faith and actively practice while the remaining 3% are composed of Wayists and practitioners of Arakul which is an accepted philosophical variation within the Empire.

In summary the Amarr are a people unified by a strong central system of governance that heavily ties into the dominant religion, its people respect age, authority, and the rule of law, as a well as have millennia of established social castes and practices on which to draw upon.

A rich shared cultural history, massive technological advances, and defined goals.

We are the necessary future for New Eden. Unification of Mankind as one people with no borders, no limitations, and truly deserving of all God has bestowed upon us.

Bollocks.

*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.


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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15704	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:02:00 - [1] - Quote Oh god lets not start this again. Bound to be another tit for tat, back and forth, push and pull argument between the Caldari and Gallente about trying to secure the moral high ground when neither of them have a foot hold. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15718	Posted - 2014.12.11 03:43:00 - [2] - Quote Her Chosen wrote: cough broken match queing cough Sad thing is, when we fought for AFW for 7 days, we crippled the Minmatar so bad, that they were down to 6 districts. IN 7 DAYS! #GetGood #FoTM #CCPhandouts Thats EVE side systems that pilots were conquering! WE, the Militia as a whole, dropped them down to six systems! *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15738	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:46:00 - [3] - Quote SOCOM Tier-1 wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: lolKirk. Can't even make a legit argument. How do the Amarr match up to the Federation? And how much to do they surpass or fall behind? Spiritually, Militaristically, and in terms of cultural unity we surpass you in every way. Sorry mate but Confessor say we are better than you! *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15741	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:46:00 - [4] - Quote Foehammerr wrote: True Adamance wrote: Spiritually, Militaristically, and in terms of cultural unity we surpass you in every way. Sorry mate but Confessor say we are better -militarily Lolno. If your armed forces were as good as you say they are, we'd be all enslaved now right? Oh wait I forgot you got beat by literally every major faction in new eden -cultural/spirtual unity Well when you enslave anyone who isn't True Amarr or following your religion, it's hard to not be unified. Here in the Federation, we allow our citizens freedom of religion and expression. We don't force anything on our people with threat of their life or stripping of natural born rights. They follow whatever God they want (even yours sometimes) of their own free will. -confessor Just wait till our Tech 3 destroyers come out, we'll blow yours out of the proverbial water! I don't understand your argument for the military comment. The Amarr have not engaged the Caldari in open warfare ever, though if you refer the to joint Matari, Gallentean, and Caldari fleets that attacked the Amarr fleet in orbit over Ammamake I then perhaps its a better example of the power of the Amarrian Navy that it requires the joint forces of three nations to repulse a single arm of our Navy, and one that inflicted heavy losses against its foes. If you refer to the Jove then that is a debatable military loss. The Amarr Navy commited 200 Ships to the battle, less than a 5th of what it could theoretically field at the time and without the support of its dreadnought class vessels, of which the Amarr were first to develop (and if I am not mistaken Cynosensural Field Theory) at a time where the Amarr Navy committed less forces than it should have assuming the Jovians were nothing but savages, and also enforcing a military doctrine that disallowed retreat. The Amarr Navy inflected kills or crippling injuries on between 1/3 and 1/2 of the Jovian ships there which were hundreds of years technologically superior. If you refer the the Elder Invasion again that is an example of Amarrian supremacy and Minmatar cowardice. They unlawfully transgressed into Amarr space attacking CONCORD, and breaching Cluster wide laws to deploy forces in Amarr space before peace keepers could arrive to stop them and before Amarrian fleets could form up. However despite all of this an entire capital fleet arm of the Elder Fleet was destroyed by 10 Apocalypses and one Abbadon commanded by the Empress herself while the remaining two Fleets fled in absolute terror back to the safety of their Republic. Culturally the Empire is somewhat more unified than the Federation. Our people unanimously accept God's existence and the willingly abide by the tenets of the scriptures and social values of our ancestry. Why? Because it works, not because anyone is forcing us to. Moreover a member of the slave caste that earns their freedom is given all the rights and responsibilities of a born Amarrian citizen and is protected under what could be discerned as a very liberal imperial law from being enslaved for any reason other than transgression of the law. You assertions that the Empire is haunted by shadowy bogey men that radically enforce the rule of law is more of less a fallacy drawn of comparisons to your own society. Unlike the Gallente the Amarr naturally have a healthy respect for authority and the rule of law......there is no need to force the willing. Finally on to the T3 Tactical Destroyer...... you're just sore you were overtaken by the other 3 Empires....hell you were nearly over taken in R&D materials by a 3rd party capsuleer organisation. Regardless I have said my piece. I have little need to justify the noble goals of the Amarr to you other than to explain your cultural and historical misconceptions. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15752	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:57:00 - [5] - Quote SOCOM Tier-1 wrote: Give me a REAL reason that the Amarr surpass our Federation in any way, shape, or form. I await your response. I have given you all of these things. The Amarr Empire comprises the greater part of High Security Space, controlling almost 700 sovereign Systems, all united under the one true God and rule benevolently by the Heir Families and the Empress. it is currently the most stable space in New Eden, which given its sheer size is a feat unto itself, and its people have very soldier qualities of life. It is the second most ethnically diverse entity in the cluster, even discounting its slave populations, many of which in recent years have been emancipated at the decree of the Empress, sparking a new social wave of emancipations amongst Holders throughout the Empire, even those stubborn enough to be called conservatives. The Empire has the greatest mineral wealth in the cluster as well exporting massive quantities of raw materials to the Caldari state, and maintains a relatively close economy which ensures the economy remains relatively stable. This is evident in that the Empire has financially bailed out the State through economic stimulus packages. While the Amarr has slipped back several years in terms of technologies that affect the daily lives of its citizenry, due to this closed economy, it has been at the fore front of military research and development for several years now, producing the first iterations of the cloned immortal soldiers and of course the TIII Tactical Destroyer. The Empire has also in the last century had a strong impact on the Cluster as a whole working with the Gallente to establish relative Galactic peace under the leadership of former Emperor Heideran V, awarded the Gallentean Aldonis award for his efforts towards peace. Recent census reports suggest that roughly 97% of the Empire is unified by the Faith and actively practice while the remaining 3% are composed of Wayists and practitioners of Arakul which is an accepted philosophical variation within the Empire. In summary the Amarr are a people unified by a strong central system of governance that heavily ties into the dominant religion, its people respect age, authority, and the rule of law, as a well as have millennia of established social castes and practices on which to draw upon. A rich shared cultural history, massive technological advances, and defined goals. We are the necessary future for New Eden. Unification of Mankind as one people with no borders, no limitations, and truly deserving of all God has bestowed upon us. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15758	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:15:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: This thread just makes me cringe. It does and I fell into the trap I warned other people about...... Ignorance just hurts my brain though...... *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15759	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:38:00 - [7] - Quote sabre prime wrote: True Adamance wrote: SOCOM Tier-1 wrote: Give me a REAL reason that the Amarr surpass our Federation in any way, shape, or form. I await your response. I have given you all of these things. The Amarr Empire comprises the greater part of High Security Space, controlling almost 700 sovereign Systems, all united under the one true God and rule benevolently by the Heir Families and the Empress. it is currently the most stable space in New Eden, which given its sheer size is a feat unto itself, and its people have very soldier qualities of life. It is the second most ethnically diverse entity in the cluster, even discounting its slave populations, many of which in recent years have been emancipated at the decree of the Empress, sparking a new social wave of emancipations amongst Holders throughout the Empire, even those stubborn enough to be called conservatives. The Empire has the greatest mineral wealth in the cluster as well exporting massive quantities of raw materials to the Caldari state, and maintains a relatively close economy which ensures the economy remains relatively stable. This is evident in that the Empire has financially bailed out the State through economic stimulus packages. While the Amarr has slipped back several years in terms of technologies that affect the daily lives of its citizenry, due to this closed economy, it has been at the fore front of military research and development for several years now, producing the first iterations of the cloned immortal soldiers and of course the TIII Tactical Destroyer. The Empire has also in the last century had a strong impact on the Cluster as a whole working with the Gallente to establish relative Galactic peace under the leadership of former Emperor Heideran V, awarded the Gallentean Aldonis award for his efforts towards peace. Recent census reports suggest that roughly 97% of the Empire is unified by the Faith and actively practice while the remaining 3% are composed of Wayists and practitioners of Arakul which is an accepted philosophical variation within the Empire. In summary the Amarr are a people unified by a strong central system of governance that heavily ties into the dominant religion, its people respect age, authority, and the rule of law, as a well as have millennia of established social castes and practices on which to draw upon. A rich shared cultural history, massive technological advances, and defined goals. We are the necessary future for New Eden. Unification of Mankind as one people with no borders, no limitations, and truly deserving of all God has bestowed upon us. Bollocks. Cuz dat's just how we roll! *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.