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Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
520
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Posted - 2014.12.10 19:46:00 -
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Seriously whoever in CCP decided to rip off WOW with The Encrypted StongBoxes did a horrible job of it.
So, you have to pay .50 Cents each to unlock each box which contain mostly useless Carp with like a 1 in 10-15 chance of actually getting something decent, NOT GOOD mind you but decent.
With people mostly getting junk like 20 Basic Code breakers, or enhanced armor plates in them. Or Random class Dropsuits
The Rare drops are less than spectacular
1 Officer weapon
1 Officer Dropsuit RUMORED (seriously who is going to take the work to make a fitting with 1 dropsuit)
1 Day Omega Booster.
Even if every box contained 1 Officer weapon or dropsuit they'd be barely worth .50 cents.
Molon Labe: Slow & Steady...
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5488
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Posted - 2014.12.10 19:49:00 -
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Have you ever heard of operant conditioning? This guy, B.F. Skinner, determined that by randomly rewarding animals with food for certain tasks you can get them to perform the task endlessly.
Randomized strongbox-like loot utilizes this mechanic to get you to buy AUR. Welcome to the F2P business model. Enjoy your stay.
My advice to you, playa...
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
5385
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Posted - 2014.12.10 20:02:00 -
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I might have issue with it if there werenGÇÖt ways to get keys other than buying them with AUR.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
520
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Posted - 2014.12.10 20:17:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I might have issue with it if there weren't ways to get keys other than buying them with AUR.
The odds of finding a key are rarer than the chance of getting a rare box. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5490
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Posted - 2014.12.10 20:26:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:The odds of finding a key are rarer than the chance of getting a rare box. You may also get them from certain missions, I hear.
My advice to you, playa...
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
2286
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Posted - 2014.12.10 20:29:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Have you ever heard of operant conditioning? This guy, B.F. Skinner, determined that by randomly rewarding animals with food for certain tasks you can get them to perform the task endlessly.
Randomized strongbox-like loot utilizes this mechanic to get you to buy AUR. Welcome to the F2P business model. Enjoy your stay.
Spot on, Spot on. Watch this Episode of South Park to understand.
http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s18e06-freemium-isnt-free#source=57baee9c-b611-4260-958b-05315479a7fc:c6cbd5e3-7eae-4cc3-94b7-119c8d412f99&position=6&sort=!airdate
Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6528
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Posted - 2014.12.10 20:32:00 -
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Wait.
Is your title a play on the Weeds theme song?
If so, well played.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10445
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Posted - 2014.12.10 20:36:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:I might have issue with it if there weren't ways to get keys other than buying them with AUR. The odds of finding a key are rarer than the chance of getting a rare box.
Actually, right now, my alt character has a daily mission where I can earn a key as a reward. All I have to do to get it is hack 17 primary objectives within the same day. Easy for the likes of me.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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TRULY ELITE
Titans of Phoenix
223
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Posted - 2014.12.10 20:47:00 -
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I had to get 23k SP in a match to get my key, was quite chalenging but that 50% booster helped, 4400 warpoints and 912k ISK at the end. I opened the box and got 3 Thales. :(
Born Amarr, Pure Minmatar.
Commando, Logistics, Sentinel, Scout mk.o
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501st Headstrong
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
764
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Posted - 2014.12.10 20:51:00 -
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I got an Alex HMG and 4 Balac's Ars. It varies buddy
Ace Boone's Son/ Danizzle's Friend/ OG GAM4LIfe
"Are you a boy or girl?" -Most asked question in Dust
Waiting for SWBF
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10447
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Posted - 2014.12.10 20:59:00 -
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TRULY ELITE wrote:I had to get 23k SP in a match to get my key, was quite chalenging but that 50% booster helped, 4400 warpoints and 912k ISK at the end. I opened the box and got 3 Thales. :(
I actually earned a 1-Day Active Omega Booster as a reward for completing all 10 Daily Missions and I didn't have to put much effort into those missions. Today's Daily Mission now has me grinding a lot of SP for a single match. Time to put that Omega Booster to good use.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
521
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Posted - 2014.12.10 21:37:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:I got an Alex HMG and 4 Balac's Ars. It varies buddy
Yeah but how many box with crap did you get? |
501st Headstrong
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
767
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Posted - 2014.12.10 21:38:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:I got an Alex HMG and 4 Balac's Ars. It varies buddy Yeah but how many box with crap did you get?
1.
Ace Boone's Son/ Danizzle's Friend/ OG GAM4LIfe
"Are you a boy or girl?" -Most asked question in Dust
Waiting for SWBF
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
522
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Posted - 2014.12.10 21:39:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Wait.
Is your title a play on the Weeds theme song?
If so, well played.
yep thanks. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
522
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Posted - 2014.12.10 21:42:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Hawkin P wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:I got an Alex HMG and 4 Balac's Ars. It varies buddy Yeah but how many box with crap did you get? 1.
You are very lucky.
I sat there while a friend in corp opened 9 and they were all garbage the 1 decent thing he got was a 1-day Omega.
Very few good drops have been gotten from boxes in my corp.
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Vesta Opalus
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
234
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Posted - 2014.12.10 22:12:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:Seriously whoever in CCP decided to rip off WOW with The Encrypted StongBoxes did a horrible job of it.
So, you have to pay .50 Cents each to unlock each box which contain mostly useless Carp with like a 1 in 10-15 chance of actually getting something decent, NOT GOOD mind you but decent.
With people mostly getting junk like 20 Basic Code breakers, or enhanced armor plates in them. Or Random class Dropsuits
The Rare drops are less than spectacular (You only get 1 of the items listed below)
1 New Officer weapon
1 Officer Dropsuit RUMORED (seriously who is going to take the work to make a fitting with 1 dropsuit)
1 Day Omega Booster.
Even if every box contained 1 Officer weapon or dropsuit they'd be barely worth .50 cents.
They ripped off Valve ;d |
Darrius Smithmage
83
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Posted - 2014.12.10 22:42:00 -
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One of my corp mates how a covenant boo from one of his boss. And another corp mate a got free armor repair skill book XD
I am a calmando.I will fight for Caldari faction warfare even if 15 members are redline snipers I'll be fighting.
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
522
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:28:00 -
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I got the option to earn a Key today all I have to do is use the Instant SP boost button twice today which costs 800 AURUM, the same price as a key. lol
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1406
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:49:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Hawkin P wrote:The odds of finding a key are rarer than the chance of getting a rare box. You may also get them from certain missions, I hear.
i had this mission it appeared to say a stack of 3 lockboxes.. i have no desire tho to spend money on opening them, i'm not bothered by it, if i was i would spend the money to open them. if the game is making more money off people who have it to spend so what. if a game doesn't make money the plug gets pulled, this is capitalism not some hippy commune to make everyone feel good for free.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
1016
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Posted - 2014.12.11 21:17:00 -
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A big problem I have with this system is that I am collecting lock boxes at a ridiculous rate.
Get 15 Kill Assists: 4 Boxes
Get 14 Vehicle Assists: 4 Boxes
Earn 24,999 SP in One Day: 1 Box
Kill 8 Enemies: 1 Box
So for just today I can earn 10 Boxes, not to mention the 2 I received as normal salvage a bit ago.
Meanwhile I have yet to get even a single key.
Oh boy, I have all these boxes, but I can't open even one of them.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
213
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Posted - 2014.12.11 21:23:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Wait.
Is your title a play on the Weeds theme song?
If so, well played.
Thats exactly why I clicked on the thread.
I do hear ya on boxes though. Ratio to keys needs to be better or at least boxes give up something of value you can use every time. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
525
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Posted - 2014.12.11 21:41:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:A big problem I have with this system is that I am collecting lock boxes at a ridiculous rate.
Get 15 Kill Assists: 4 Boxes
Get 14 Vehicle Assists: 4 Boxes
Earn 24,999 SP in One Day: 1 Box
Kill 8 Enemies: 1 Box
So for just today I can earn 10 Boxes, not to mention the 2 I received as normal salvage a bit ago.
Meanwhile I have yet to get even a single key.
Oh boy, I have all these boxes, but I can't open even one of them.
Yeah all day today I have been getting boxes in salvage. I have 36 now. |
SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
213
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Posted - 2014.12.11 21:54:00 -
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Ha, just logged on for today. This beats the boxes, activate 3 boosters get one day passive booster. Another activate 4 boosters, get one day passive booster. Can you even have 7 boosters going at once? |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5435
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:21:00 -
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SILENT GIANT wrote:Ha, just logged on for today. This beats the boxes, activate 3 boosters get one day passive booster. Another activate 4 boosters, get one day passive booster. Can you even have 7 boosters going at once?
Don't activate them or you'll end up with negative SP like me.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
213
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Posted - 2014.12.12 01:10:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:SILENT GIANT wrote:Ha, just logged on for today. This beats the boxes, activate 3 boosters get one day passive booster. Another activate 4 boosters, get one day passive booster. Can you even have 7 boosters going at once? Don't activate them or you'll end up with negative SP like me.
I guess I need to go read that negative sp thread floating around. How in the hell does that even happen?
How far negative and does it at least go up after battle? Talk about diggin yourself out of the hole |
thehellisgoingon
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
46
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Posted - 2014.12.12 02:56:00 -
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This
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
532
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Posted - 2014.12.14 01:51:00 -
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Got a free key today, opened a box, and got 9 Basic Aurum heavy suits.
When is CCP going to learn that everything they sell for Aurum is carp, beside Boosters, Respects, BPOs, and maybe that Jara Kumora thing. The whole idea of selling Aumur gear that is just like the ISK gear is useless. People would have to spend ridiculous amounts of money to play seriously with them. They might as well just sell ISK. It would be more profitable for them.
Molon Labe CEO
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3531
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Posted - 2014.12.14 03:03:00 -
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Today I will get a key from completing 8/10 of the daily missions one of which is use the sp boost feature 4 times another is to use it 5 times. The others are mostly easy just have to finish getting 75k sp today and a few more wins. I have exactly 80 boxes not including the reward of an additional 3 when I finish grinding the 40k more sp I need for the one uncompleted challenge and any more I salvage in the 6-8 games it takes to grind that out.
Fatal Absolution Director
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1731
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Posted - 2014.12.14 04:38:00 -
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missions are optional, opening strongboxes is optional, don't want to buy keys then don't. wait for a free one
also these are not replacing loot drops. they are extra loot. i receive just as much normal loot as i used to.
also wow doesn't and has never had anything like strongboxes and is funded through subscriptions where dust is not. i don't understand how people can expect to play a game for free and then ***** about ccp trying to make some money. you dont know how lucky you are getting a game for free where you can get virtually everything someone who pays for the game can get
All Hail Legion
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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
172
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Posted - 2014.12.14 04:47:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Have you ever heard of operant conditioning? This guy, B.F. Skinner, determined that by randomly rewarding animals with food for certain tasks you can get them to perform the task endlessly.
Randomized strongbox-like loot utilizes this mechanic to get you to buy AUR. Welcome to the F2P business model. Enjoy your stay.
Sounds like that guy that invented video games.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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