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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1031
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:40:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Hmm, let's play with some numbers.
Domination are usually the longest games. Let's say you are in game for 15 minutes.
15 x 60 (seconds) x 5 = 4,500 SP. You need 15,500 more SP from WP, which is 7,750 WP.
That isn't easy to do but it is *possible*. Get a friend to put a Heavy suit on with an HMG, get to doing super Logibro, and you might hit it. If the game lasts something like 12 minutes, you need 8.7k WP. Again, possible but not easy. I have hit like 6k WP as a Logi and as a Tanker before. It is possible.
But it isn't really going to happen without boosters. Hitting 1,000 as a Logistics is not that hard. Hitting 2,000 as any good squad player is also not that hard. But the games where Logistics players hit 7k WP are the ones they put on YouTube. Even Shayz game where he pulled 5,625 WP with someone to rep only netted 14,175 SP, pre-boost. I know we all like to say that we are all some kind of gods that go "pfft, 5k WP every game every time no problem" but it simply is not true. Look at the games where it is an absolutely stomp. You see 1.5-2.5k in the tops. The games where we get those huge numbers are the ones where we take pictures of.
I can pull 3k+ as a Logistics player with my dad going Heavy with a defend order. And, yes, that is with cheesing it so he is taking damage from people far away and I am getting +30, +30, +30, +30, +30 while staying completely safe. I can say that 3k on a decent game of domination is not very hard. But there is a far cry from 8k.
Possible? Yes. But I don't think I can believe the number of people that have said they can or have done it without at least a single booster. The calculations (X is how long you expect a match to be in seconds while Y will be the WP you will need):
(X * 5) + (Y * 2) = 21,000. No booster. 8.7k [(X * 5) + (Y * 2) x 1.5] = 21,000. 1 Active. 5.2k WP. [(X * 5) + (Y * 2) x 2.0] = 21,000. 2 Active. 3,450 WP. [(X * 5) + (Y * 2) x 2.5] = 21,000. 3 Active. 2,400 WP.
WP needed assumes X is 12 minutes. So, no boosters is nearly impossible, 1 booster is difficult, 2 boosters is a great game, and 3 boosters is a good game (in my opinion). Math. It's awesome.
You could always go boost in an empty PC match. Granted one would hope that CCP already don't count things that happen in PC matches, but you never know.
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Grand Master Kubo
PIanet Express Smart Deploy
227
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:07:00 -
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After cap earning that many skillpoints in one match is impossible. |
I-Shayz-I
I----------I
5221
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:20:00 -
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I got 20k sp from a single match the other day without a booster.
Granted I did have to flip the objective on domination quite a few times, but I think it is possible without a booster (although rather difficult)
Only got about 4900 wp, which really isn't that hard to get as a logi, but the key here is staying in battle for as long as possible. You could earn 7k wp, but without the time sp you won't reach that goal.
Still, even I wouldn't try and attempt of. You need a perfect balance between both teams which rarely happens on a dom.
Possible? Yes. Probable/realistic? Absolutely not.
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5438
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:50:00 -
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Gentlemercs,
Rattati has spoken...
https://twitter.com/CCP_Rattati/status/542343369645490176
"I am almost 100% sure that mission was supposed to be "per day". Let's see tomorrow after the team reviews the issues."
My advice to you, playa...
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
13650
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Posted - 2014.12.09 18:00:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:OH CHRIST. SOMEONE CAN'T READ.
"Fighter - Earn 20,999 Skill Points in a single DAY"
Discussion over. LOL Yeah, I went in game and had did the biggest facepalm at OP when I saw the description.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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thehellisgoingon
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
35
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Posted - 2014.12.09 18:22:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:OH CHRIST. SOMEONE CAN'T READ.
"Fighter - Earn 20,999 Skill Points in a single DAY"
Discussion over.
That's what u thought. You beat me to it. you deserve a cookie. |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
69
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Posted - 2014.12.10 02:45:00 -
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I like a few to be I don't know, kinda a challenge? |
Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
721
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Posted - 2014.12.10 02:57:00 -
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I had 3 "per match" SP goals. 3,999 -------- 5,999 ------- 7,999. Then some per day ones of like 13,999 and 23,999. I guess the game knows I'm not as skilled as you guys are and toned down my missions. :)
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
183
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Posted - 2014.12.10 07:36:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I got 20k sp from a single match the other day without a booster.
Granted I did have to flip the objective on domination quite a few times, but I think it is possible without a booster (although rather difficult)
Only got about 4900 wp, which really isn't that hard to get as a logi, but the key here is staying in battle for as long as possible. You could earn 7k wp, but without the time sp you won't reach that goal.
Still, even I wouldn't try and attempt of. You need a perfect balance between both teams which rarely happens on a dom.
Possible? Yes. Probable/realistic? Absolutely not. i got 20,135 in a dom today going rambo apeshit in my heavy. but the stupid freaking challenge goal was 20,999.
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
690
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Posted - 2014.12.10 08:15:00 -
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I got this mission too. Tried so hard to do it. Highest I got was 19k. Gave up. Only mission unchecked -_-
LogicGäó
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Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
42
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Posted - 2014.12.10 09:01:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Hmm, let's play with some numbers.
Domination are usually the longest games. Let's say you are in game for 15 minutes.
15 x 60 (seconds) x 5 = 4,500 SP. You need 15,500 more SP from WP, which is 7,750 WP.
That isn't easy to do but it is *possible*. Get a friend to put a Heavy suit on with an HMG, get to doing super Logibro, and you might hit it. If the game lasts something like 12 minutes, you need 8.7k WP. Again, possible but not easy. I have hit like 6k WP as a Logi and as a Tanker before. It is possible.
But it isn't really going to happen without boosters. Hitting 1,000 as a Logistics is not that hard. Hitting 2,000 as any good squad player is also not that hard. But the games where Logistics players hit 7k WP are the ones they put on YouTube. Even Shayz game where he pulled 5,625 WP with someone to rep only netted 14,175 SP, pre-boost. I know we all like to say that we are all some kind of gods that go "pfft, 5k WP every game every time no problem" but it simply is not true. Look at the games where it is an absolutely stomp. You see 1.5-2.5k in the tops. The games where we get those huge numbers are the ones where we take pictures of.
I can pull 3k+ as a Logistics player with my dad going Heavy with a defend order. And, yes, that is with cheesing it so he is taking damage from people far away and I am getting +30, +30, +30, +30, +30 while staying completely safe. I can say that 3k on a decent game of domination is not very hard. But there is a far cry from 8k.
Possible? Yes. But I don't think I can believe the number of people that have said they can or have done it without at least a single booster. The calculations (X is how long you expect a match to be in seconds while Y will be the WP you will need):
(X * 5) + (Y * 2) = 21,000. No booster. 8.7k [(X * 5) + (Y * 2) x 1.5] = 21,000. 1 Active. 5.2k WP. [(X * 5) + (Y * 2) x 2.0] = 21,000. 2 Active. 3,450 WP. [(X * 5) + (Y * 2) x 2.5] = 21,000. 3 Active. 2,400 WP.
WP needed assumes X is 12 minutes. So, no boosters is nearly impossible, 1 booster is difficult, 2 boosters is a great game, and 3 boosters is a good game (in my opinion). Math. It's awesome.
math maybe awesome but very few players can hope to do this in 1 battle with out buffs and lets think new players not 50 mill+ sp op players who don't have all day to play |
Edau Skir2
duna corp
39
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Posted - 2014.12.10 11:56:00 -
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Well one of today's Daily Missions has angered me. "Activate Instant Booster once" for 5 strongboxes. Not a problem, just a little bit of aur. Unless you don't have any. In which case now I have buy some. My answer is two words.
The second word is off. |
Aderek
Made in Poland... E-R-A
102
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Posted - 2014.12.10 12:24:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Allright im online, got to the game and checked my dayly missions and guess what silly mission ive got? GET 20.999SP IN A SINGLE MATCH! How the hell are im supposed to get that much SP without a booster running? Do you really want people boosting for this? Tone it down to something like 12k SP in a single match which is reasonable for people that are playing this game without throwing tons of AUR at it.
Sorry MAN ;) Domination: Start battle: drop wizam uplink x2 (-21% to spam time) Switch to: Templar logi fit (militia mass driver, militia rep tool) and... 8590 SP without boosters.
When i play with proto i have min 18k SP per battle...
Good day!
dust514.pl
MM proto logi
50 kk SP and growing
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