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KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6173	Posted - 2014.12.09 00:08:00 - [1] - Quote So. Thats pretty much it. Logis are WAY too slow (except the Minnie) and have LESS EHP than assaults. I do understand the fact they have the Bandwith advantage and Equipment slots , but you even have EHP or have Speed or Damp (low scan profile), and logis have none. In order to be a good support unit, you need to stick BY your squad. So i propose that Logis just have -0.05 speed PER EQUIPMENT SLOT compared to their Assault Counter parts. So Amarr And CAl would ahve -0.15 speed compared to their ASsault counter parts. The Min And Gal -0.20. Discuss. Amarr FW blue dots suck. If you suck :please go and bother Minmatar or Gallente. You'll even win some matches there.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6173	Posted - 2014.12.09 00:14:00 - [2] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: If buff to speed, buff for everyone. No exceptions ;l The thing is, no other class needs a speed buff as much as Logis. Scouts are speedy as it is Assaults are Very fast considering the amount of EHP they can pack (Specially the Minmatar who outruns the AMarr Scout) Sentinels...well ...i dont need to explain why they DONT need to be speedier... Amarr FW blue dots suck. If you suck :please go and bother Minmatar or Gallente. You'll even win some matches there.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6172	Posted - 2014.12.09 00:27:00 - [3] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: If buff to speed, buff for everyone. No exceptions ;l The thing is, no other class needs a speed buff as much as Logis. Scouts are speedy as it is Assaults are Very fast considering the amount of EHP they can pack (Specially the Minmatar who outruns the AMarr Scout) Sentinels...well ...i dont need to explain why they DONT need to be speedier... Fit a Kin Cat. Kin cat wont fix my movement nor strafing speed. T.Adamance/ Invalidated. Amarr FW blue dots suck. If you suck :please go and bother Minmatar or Gallente. You'll even win some matches there.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6175	Posted - 2014.12.09 00:31:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Just run every where then. All this strafing business is indicative of how bad at FPS people are....... Logis have the LEAST Stamina and stamina regen. Sprint Speed is not necessarily the ONLY speed they need. Move and Strafe to avoid SOME bullets while repping, reviving,etc... Invalidated again my friend. Amarr FW blue dots suck. If you suck :please go and bother Minmatar or Gallente. You'll even win some matches there.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6189	Posted - 2014.12.09 00:49:00 - [5] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: No They are good at their role and can kill if needed no changes needed Ok. so you are obviously not a logi... Thanks for participating . Amarr FW blue dots suck. If you suck :please go and bother Minmatar or Gallente. You'll even win some matches there.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6193	Posted - 2014.12.09 01:09:00 - [6] - Quote 1913 DfLo wrote: Yep Logis need a boost. Logis have work to do. Thanks. Funny fact. Most people against Logis having a speed buff do this while in a game....: ''Where the * is my repairs?'' '' Why nobody has scans!!!!!!! im getting F* by scouts!'' ''There are no freakn uplinks in this maps'' or '' all uplinks are piled up together'' ''My Fat a* is out of ammo. AMMO AMMO!!!!!...''' ''Anyone with a needle? Where are the logis!!???!!'' Heh.... Amarr FW blue dots suck.** If you suck :please go and bother Minmatar or Gallente. You'll even win some matches there.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6193	Posted - 2014.12.09 01:21:00 - [7] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Logis should be the second fastest suit in the game, also with the second best EWAR capabilities. They should rank fourth in the list of suits for EHP with scouts coming last on that front. Yeah? Smart Amarr FW blue dots suck. If you suck :please go and bother Minmatar or Gallente. You'll even win some matches there.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6214	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:47:00 - [8] - Quote People saying that Logis shouldnt be buffed because logis shouldnt be able to kill, are not considering the fact that Suppressive Fire is ALSO support. As it is, a Logi rounds around 400-600 EHP , while being slow as a commando. The only true bet is to hide behind sentinels. Speed is needed for us to revive you, decent survivability is needed in order to fulfill our duty. Pretty common example: Say Im a logi. Im repping a Sentinel. 2 of us. Then , we face 2 Enemy sentinels with a Logi. My heavy takes out 1 enemy sentinel and hurts the second one and the logi, but this second sentinel kills by heavy. So now, my mission changes. I need to REVIVE my heavy and Rep him to full health, the issue is, i still have a Damaged enemy Sentinel that is Quickly being repaired and a Damaged enemy Logi. So i change to my Light weapon (process that if it takes 2 seconds, thats 2 seconds of enemy HMG on my face) At its current state, i dont have the Firepower nor EHP to take down the heavy on my own. I can attempt to down the Logi (and stop the reps) but due to lack of firepower AND EHP chances are that i will be killed by either one, or the other. WIth some speed, the logi should be able to kill BOTH a damged sent and the Logi. As Logis aer now, they are slow AND squishy while having same scan profile as Assaults. So as you see the only thing we really have going for us is Equipment, but equipment alone doesnt cut it. Logis should be the 2nd fastest suits , not assaults. But since i dont want to pss off the whole community, im just requesting a -0.15 / -0.20 speed differences with assaults. Amarr FW blue dots suck.* If you suck :please go and bother Minmatar or Gallente. You'll even win some matches there.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6217	Posted - 2014.12.09 16:29:00 - [9] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: just stop armour tanking Ahem.. My Amarr logi only have 4 lows, the lowest speed, and only have somthing like 375 eHP with maxed skills of course. I think I only use ferros and 1 rep in order to keep some speed and with this I can have 787 eHP. I couldn't exchange a ferro for a kin cat cause the loss of HP would make my suit useless. The logi must stay alive if he wants to support his teamates. With such a low eHP/ low regen / low speed he has too many disadvantage IMO. The proposed speed buff seems fair to me ^^ It would be a beggining to make Logis a bit better. Indeed. AMarr Logi not only has less slots than an assault, its slow as any other commando, and it has almost scout level EHP, but if you want to equip Proto equipment you cant even shield tank it properly..(not that it would help at all considering the 15 shield regen per sec...) Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6220	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:07:00 - [10] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Exactly man, it really needs a big buff. And its bonus over uplinks also disapear when you die! It deeply needs a 5th slot, a speed buff and I'd like to exchange that Sidearm slot for a 4th EQ one ^^ I ... like the Side arm...makes me feel unique u.u Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7

KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6223	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:44:00 - [11] - Quote 1913 DfLo wrote: Any Dev reading this? Any love for the Logis? SERIOUSLY. Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6245	Posted - 2014.12.10 14:34:00 - [12] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: After doing some looking into this I skilled the cal logi.. Only 1, it's not bad as long as you fit it for shields and not duel tank it thinking you're cool. Cal logi is fine idk bout min but the gal and Amarr I could get behind a slight speed buff cuz they armor tank anyways soo why not? But to be FAIR, all logis should have the same buff. I think. XD Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6300	Posted - 2014.12.12 14:23:00 - [13] - Quote 1913 DfLo wrote: Logi Speed Buff Bump ^^^^^^^^ CCP, say something! Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6301	Posted - 2014.12.12 14:40:00 - [14] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: If you want a faster logi stop armor tanking the darn thing. It's slow because you made it that way. You want heavy armor you're gunna be slow, you want to be fast you're gunna have low hp. What's the problem here? That assaults HAve High HP , High regen and High speed while logis have none. They have equipments but not enough Of the attributes i mentioned in order to effectively survive. My logi runs at 110ish shields and 500Armor...at proto level. Runs at 6.5 sprt speed. Even if i DO use kin cats on it and sacrifice the little HP i have, Whiel walking (repairing) a sentinel im still slow as f*. Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress** o7
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6301	Posted - 2014.12.12 14:44:00 - [15] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: Want to rep use a min logi. I do and can keep up with any heavy. Again, what's the problem? The problem? Its minmatar All logis should be able to fulfill their duty as support, not just the minmatar. Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6303	Posted - 2014.12.12 15:17:00 - [16] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: my logi has approx 600 ehp with 7.9 sprint. fast enough for the task of uplink dropper, getting ammo to players that need it then getting the hell out of there, getting to a friendly trapped with no ehp and repairing him before bugging out, stabbing the cold dead corpse of some unlucky player then running for my life. alternatively i have a 900 ehp 6 sprint logi who is designed to sit in a building and repair/supply players in situ. apex suits have shown me that to make the most out of the logi you need to be either fast or tanked. you cant have both and either 1 has its own unique areas of expertise i would say though they could do with much higher stamina stat 1-To tank a logi like hat menans you dont use proto equipment 2-High sprint speed is not necessarily what i mean. I mean a speed buff ALL around. Anyone against this idea is OBVIOUSLY not a full time Logi. HAVING a logi =/= Full time logi (im NOT a full time logi either, but im not against the idea of buffing them....AND the commandos XD) Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6305	Posted - 2014.12.12 18:43:00 - [17] - Quote Quote: ADAM-OF-EVE: 1-To tank a logi like hat menans you dont use proto equipment 2-High sprint speed is not necessarily what i mean. I mean a speed buff ALL around. Anyone against this idea is OBVIOUSLY not a full time Logi. HAVING a logi =/= Full time logi (im NOT a full time logi either, but im not against the idea of buffing them....AND the commandos XD) I do not use a proto weapon or grenade ever. that's not my job as for the rest I do. I try not to do every role in one class. If I'm a logi I try to avoid killing leaving that as a last resort. I'm not against a speed buff. I'm just worried that it might come at a cost I said proto Equipment. Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6312	Posted - 2014.12.12 20:57:00 - [18] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Quote: ADAM-OF-EVE: I do not use a proto weapon or grenade ever. that's not my job as for the rest I do. I try not to do every role in one class. If I'm a logi I try to avoid killing leaving that as a last resort. I'm not against a speed buff. I'm just worried that it might come at a cost I said proto Equipment. Yes I know what you meant but what I meant is by fitting a standard weapon and grenade or no grenade I can. Like I said when I'm a logi I'm not there to kill so the weapon and grenade is irrelevant and affords me room in my fitting for more proto equipment. You might not be here to KILL, you do not SEARCH for battle. But what do you do if you are caught alone? Just die? You still need the means to defend yourself and win. All classes do. Amarr Logi, Scout, Assault , Sentinel and soon Commando. Check MY loyalty Empress o7

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