DUST Search - Minja and dampening

thehellisgoingon wrote:

Bright Steel wrote:

Would a dampening bonus to the min scout make it too powerful?

Or more viable???

A Scanned scout is a dead scout from my experience. The minja is so squishy and speed doesn't help when you get a HMG in your face as you round a corner, cause he saw you coming from his shared scans from the gal scout that was with him.

The same gal scout that you couldn't scan cause he has the bonus for dampening but wait, also precision???
He hides and scans??? And has more health then my minja???

My minja is awesome when im not hunted by other scouts. My speed does make up the difference of my low health, but I just can't seem to compete with the other scouts without gimping my fit with all damps in the lows. I could damp better and be as fast with a gal scout.

My bonuses seem useless when I'm getting scanned.... Am I doing it wrong???

Min scouts have speed. Not to mention bonus to hacking and nk. You can be that 1 minja holding down a letter solo.


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KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6131	Posted - 2014.12.08 15:56:00 - [1] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: Am I doing it wrong??? yes You are not using dampeners. NEXT Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6134	Posted - 2014.12.08 16:17:00 - [2] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Bright Steel wrote: Am I doing it wrong??? yes You are not using dampeners. NEXT But damps gimp the suit... The gal scout can damp and run hack mods to compete better in hacking. The knife bonus is great but again I feel like my suit is gimped with all damps in lows and I have to run Atleast an advanced suit to get the two lows to damp to except able levels but for real competitive dempening I have to run a proto suit that is slow, dies to 5 shoots by a BrAR and can still be scanned... Just seems wrong ''But damps gimp the suit... ''They do not GIMP you suit. They Dampen it in exchange for something else, HP, Speed, Hacking speed...etc... ''The gal scout can damp and run hack mods to compete better in hacking. '' Then use a Gal scout. But then you wont have the innate HACKING bonus of the Minmatar or the Incredible Nova Knife damage (the Gal scout cannot achieve) of the minmatar scout. ''The knife bonus is great but again I feel like my suit is gimped with all damps in lows and I have to run Atleast an advanced suit to get the two lows to damp to except able levels but for real competitive dempening I have to run a proto suit that is slow, dies to 5 shoots by a BrAR and can still be scanned...'' If you wanted a DAMPENED scout, you chose the wrong race my sneaky friend. CAl and Gal play the damp game a lot better than your min scout or my amarr scout. The min scout is a Speed HAcker + ASsasin. Not a spy / infiltrator. Scouts ...are just not all the same. In my opinion: Min: Speed hacker + Assasin Gallente: True Scout (locates and informs while being hard to locate) Caldari: Infiltrator + Battle Scout Amarr: Flank specialist + Scout Hunter AND, you cannot have it all: Min: Best HAcking speed and NK damage. Also , the speediest. Gal: Bes DAmpen in the whole game. Good armor rep Cal: Best Radar range without having to sacrifice too much EHP plus best innate Shield regen. Amarr: Monster Scan Precision and Stamina. Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6139	Posted - 2014.12.08 17:24:00 - [3] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: I guess my problem is with feeling that EWAR>ALL. I know some guys do great without it but I just seem to always get shot by some random red I didn't see or pick up on tacnet when I go of the knife... Then a couple shoots and I'm dead with no reaction Time due to lag... Any tips with regards to this? ''I guess my problem is with feeling that EWAR>ALL. '' Bright Steel. I've fought you before. You are pretty good. But you are DUMB XD You chose the ONLY SCOUT SUIT, that doesn't do anything E-war wise HAHAH Ahh. man. sorry. I didnt mean to insult .its just a little funny. The problem you are having is called lack of awareness. You can try putting 2 cx Range amplifiers and get a super awesome scan range that will let you see every med and heavy frame in 50mts+ range...but i would highly recommend just changing your tactics. Same as while crossing he street, look everywhere before making a move. Stay close to cover at ALL times. Dont engage large groups of enemies (3+) If you see a shade (another scout) try and stay still. wait for him to start looking for you. Et... Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6140	Posted - 2014.12.08 17:33:00 - [4] - Quote SHANKS: Scout m/1 series Complex shield Enhanced shield x2 Complex reactive Complex ferroscale BrAr Ishukone NKs Flux Grenade Equipment - whatever you can fit My 2 (At proto level): City Ghost 1 cx Sidearm damage mod 2 shield extenders (the best you can fit) 2 cx Profile dampeners 1 cx Kin KAt Good cloak Nova Knives and Sidearm of preference [/b](i use Either SCR PISTOL or Breach SMG) {This way both weapons get the +8% damage bonus Speed hacker (not designed for fights X) 2cx Code breakers 1cx Kin CAt 2 Shield exts (the best you an equip) 1 cx precision enhancer ( to see everything at 32mts that is either a med frame, heavy or undamped scouts) Nova Knives and Light weapon of preference (in my case Breach Ar or SCR rifle) Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6142	Posted - 2014.12.08 17:45:00 - [5] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: I've yet to study under a true master And I admit I get tunnel vision on my target. Wish people would let me be so I can kill that guy, gosh. LOL I chose minja for speed and I'm addicted to the speed now. I retreat now to meditate and master this "situational awareness" you speak of... Well, im no Min Scout master...i just have played with all that dust has to offer and choose to share what i've learned. You chose minja for speed ,but remember speed in this game is NOT a suit, its a Mod. Kinetic Catalizer. And the amount of slots you are willing to sacrifice for them. An assault can run WAY faster than a scout with the correct fit (check my Min assault Fits that runs at 10.4sprt speed with 700 EHP XD) Yes. Situational awareness is something i can preach about,since i dont have it either. .... Reason why i use Amarr scouts with 2 complex precision enhancers and 1 cx range amp , or Logis With Poto scans XD Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6146	Posted - 2014.12.08 18:10:00 - [6] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: You have my interest with this fable MinASS fit... Please do tell... Ok Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6146	Posted - 2014.12.08 18:16:00 - [7] - Quote thehellisgoingon wrote: Bright Steel wrote: Would a dampening bonus to the min scout make it too powerful? Or more viable??? A Scanned scout is a dead scout from my experience. The minja is so squishy and speed doesn't help when you get a HMG in your face as you round a corner, cause he saw you coming from his shared scans from the gal scout that was with him. The same gal scout that you couldn't scan cause he has the bonus for dampening but wait, also precision??? He hides and scans??? And has more health then my minja??? My minja is awesome when im not hunted by other scouts. My speed does make up the difference of my low health, but I just can't seem to compete with the other scouts without gimping my fit with all damps in the lows. I could damp better and be as fast with a gal scout. My bonuses seem useless when I'm getting scanned.... Am I doing it wrong??? Min scouts have speed. Not to mention bonus to hacking and nk. You can be that 1 minja holding down a letter solo. My Amarr assault eats Min scouts for breakfast >..> Proto Scan + 2 cx dam mod + Prof 5 VIZIAM Scrambler rifle. I can pretty much 1 shot those dudes XD No min scout is holding a letter alone. At least not if they are not DAmpened.... Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6147	Posted - 2014.12.08 18:19:00 - [8] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Bright Steel wrote: You have my interest with this fable MinASS fit... Please do tell... Ok I think I'm in love.... Except for I wills use flaylock as sidearm (going through a phase) Got some SP saved that might go to maxing out MinASS You can always just use ONE LESS KIN CAT and equip a ferroscale. This should give you about 800 EHP and still over 9.3 sprt speed and good movement.,.... They will be scanning you all the time but HEY! You can move very quickly and your shields will hold up and regen pretty quickly. Plus if you change a Kin Cat and downgrade the nanohices youhcan have even more shields (remember my fit uses Enhanced Shield Ext...) To be honest, the Minmatar assault is the Most versatile suit there is... (and remember that Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle has 85 bullets , ty to the Minmatar assault bonus XD MINI HMG!) Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6148	Posted - 2014.12.08 18:33:00 - [9] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: The Min Scout really needs to swap the Knife bonus for dampening. THEN the Min Scout would be as viable as the other Scouts. Not needed. We already have 2 scouts that have dampening. Amarrian Born. State Patriot.