True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.08 01:03:00 -
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Ummmmmm
Where did you get the notion the Amarr use people as biomass? Or that the Minmatar are masters of torture, or the Gallente use mind control, or that the Caldari are inherently deceitful?
All of those synopses are lacking for a better word. None capture the actually aspects of any of their cultures.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.08 01:30:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ummmmmm
Where did you get the notion the Amarr use people as biomass? Or that the Minmatar are masters of torture, or the Gallente use mind control, or that the Caldari are inherently deceitful?
All of those synopses are lacking for a better word. None capture the actually aspects of any of their cultures. Yeah. If anything, I'd say the Gallente have the best torture tactics. The Gallente will make sure you stay alive and awake, no matter what. And oftentimes they'll do the torture for no reason at all... And where did you ever read or hear the Amarr use living people as biomass? I'd like a link. The Gallente are also absolutely horrid to their POWs, what with all the **** and purely sadistic torture they perform on them. They also have slaves you've never even heard of, and they treat theirs much worse the the Amarr treat theirs. They cut their faces off and transplant it onto themselves, in pursuit of "beauty", even though they have the technology to make completely custom faces. Its all about the "thrill" of stealing someone's face from them, and just being sadistic freaks in general. So yeah, I don't buy into the "Freedom" crap. They do things that make the Amarr look like actual angels. They are the only race that really doesn't have ANY real redeeming features IMO. It would be best to simply wipe them from the cluster. They aren't even salvageable via enslavement. If you speak the truth (Please confirm it true) I will pay you 20 million isk on thursday. What about the Caldari?
Fizzer is referencing the EVE chronicles A Beautiful Face......and every race does this. Every group according to these chronicles has a shady under belly where privately owned slaves, apparently, have their faces harvested for transplants..... this is not just a Gallentean thing.
"Like ghosts, the masked people move among them. In the Amarr colonies they wear chrome: expressionless ovals with a darkly golden sheen from the electric lamplights, with horizontal slits for eyes, nose and mouth. In Gallente space their masks are made of plaster, blackened with soot, sweat and blood. The Minmatars' are more functional: metal contraptions with hinges at the jaws, and lids that can be slid over the eyes.
Oddly enough, it is the Caldari who have lent theirs the most personality. Like the Amarr they have oval masks, but these are bone white and have been fashioned into the shape of a face. The face is the same on all masks: the same high cheekbones, the same curve in the eyebrows, the same thin lips. These masks are the only ones with no holes for the mouths, and their bearers must lift them slightly from their faces to eat."
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"Definitely. Most of them in marketing," Vertan said with a grin. "The procedure is actually quite simple these days. The biggest hurdle is still in people's minds. They've got these ideas of us tearing the faces off people and pasting them on others, like butcher surgeons. It's been a lot of work to combat misconceptions like those."
The Gallente do very horrid things to their POW's not only physical and mental abuse but inferred sexual abuse as well. The Caldari are know to send their criminals to the worst kinds of labour camps known to New Eden, the Amarr simply enslave their captives, and the Minmatar...... they do some nasty things.
In the Chronicle King Slaver they send Amarrian captives to prisons where they basically sadistically play mind games with their captives, beat them, and force them to do certain things if they lose "the game".
"The guards played games. One day per week was a holiday, during which inmates were free to rest, roam about or even leave the area altogether. No one wandered; the sun-drenched desert and the swampy woods beyond were formidable repellants. Instead, the guards would hide things - anything from colored pebbles to little skeins or wooden plaques with pictures of Amarrian idols - in the possessions of some random, unknown prisoner, then call out a hunt. If the items were found before sundown, and the right person given up, that individual would usually have their rations withdrawn for the next two days. If the items were not found, everyone lost their rations. That was the basic version of the game, but some guards were more inventive than others, and occasionally offered an alternative to the rations - especially if the target looked like they wouldn't last two days without food.
One liked people to eat sand, or wads of someone else's hair. The prisoner saw a friend ingest so much dirt that his exhalations left little muddy spatters on the ground; and later, overnight, he sat up with the man and held him still as his agonized, bleeding body rid itself of what it had been forced to ingest.
One liked public sex, choosing at random another inmate to accompany the victim. The rest of them had to stand around in a wide circle and maintain absolute silence, hearing only the hoarse, bleating grunts from the center.
One was partial to violence, and breakage."
Never heard the biomass one though.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.08 02:09:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote::/
I really need to get around to reading the books...
You won't find most of the stuff actually worth knowing in the books.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.08 08:02:00 -
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Finn Colman wrote:I've recently started studying the lore of New Eden. So far I've only just started on the Amarr, and it would seem like they aren't quite as bad as I previously thought them to be.
I will remain neutral until I have read most of the Chronicles, and/or most of the EVElopedia pages that pertain to lore. Even still, I might remain neutral.
Honestly when you read into their history and lore you actually understand those things you hated about them are simply different than you thought and honestly not so bad.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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