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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2014.12.07 19:25:00 -
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Maybe remove vehicals, scans, lock server regions?
I have personally put out 117 pieces of equipment in one round and got no lag. When you have every type of suit to proto all the equipment and vehicals but can only take advantage of what bandwidth allows without sabotaging your own work why would you ever skill into more than one role?
Wanna see how much can be done by one logi? http://imgur.com/AbIccKX Or minimap http://imgur.com/MyIshPz
Try more than on role and get versatile instead of crying about those who are.
Lonewolf till I die
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1057
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Posted - 2014.12.07 19:30:00 -
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If we don't get lag after bandwidth then what clown?
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior")
Learning Coalition & RTG
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
254
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:14:00 -
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True I've been lagged out at the start of matches usually to south American corps with dial-up. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6336
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:20:00 -
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I personally notice a surmountable amount of lag after logis start spamming uplinks and nano hives. I also notice smoother game play after many equipment items are removed from play.
It cannot be a coincidence.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
679
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:48:00 -
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Or maybe it just cheap ass Latino players with crappy connections ;)
Lonewolf till I die
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
679
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:50:00 -
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Maybe Latino logis with crappy dial up modems.
Lonewolf till I die
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1679
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Posted - 2014.12.07 21:27:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I personally notice a surmountable amount of lag after logis start spamming uplinks and nano hives. I also notice smoother game play after many equipment items are removed from play.
It cannot be a coincidence.
logis dont spam equipment.. spammers spam equipment then change suits to something else while the logis still play the same suit with most of their equipment still available
All Hail Legion
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2232
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Posted - 2014.12.07 21:34:00 -
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It's not about lag.
Lag reduction is a coincidental side effect of stopping spammers from spamming equip and then switching to a sentinel.
I Live for Tears
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5387
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Posted - 2014.12.07 21:36:00 -
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The FPS improvements are just gravy. The real benefits are to thr logi role; it now has a purpose.
My advice to you, playa...
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shaman oga
Krullefor Organization
3380
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Posted - 2014.12.07 21:40:00 -
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I blame outlanders on EU servers 
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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castba
Rogue Instincts
671
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Posted - 2014.12.07 21:51:00 -
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Region lock servers, eh?
Which server do Aussies and Kiwis get locked to? Asia?
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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ca ronic
Moffit Bros
18
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Posted - 2014.12.07 23:28:00 -
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Was wondering if scans had something to do with it. Just from my experience in a few games that had a bunch of scanners, worst lag problems I've had. Just a couple games thought so probably coincidence. |
Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
459
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Posted - 2014.12.07 23:35:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Maybe remove vehicals, scans, lock server regions? I have personally put out 117 pieces of equipment in one round and got no lag. When you have every type of suit to proto all the equipment and vehicals but can only take advantage of what bandwidth allows without sabotaging your own work why would you ever skill into more than one role? Wanna see how much can be done by one logi? http://imgur.com/AbIccKX Or minimap http://imgur.com/MyIshPzTry more than on role and get versatile instead of crying about those who are.
Do you have any idea exactly how much totally not the point this post is? O.O I don't think you do. |
Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
2551
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Posted - 2014.12.07 23:43:00 -
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Guys please don't feed the trolls.
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BL4CKST4R
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
3427
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Posted - 2014.12.08 00:43:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Or maybe it just cheap ass Latino players with crappy connections ;)
I'm Latino...
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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BL4CKST4R
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
3427
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Posted - 2014.12.08 00:44:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Maybe remove vehicals, scans, lock server regions? I have personally put out 117 pieces of equipment in one round and got no lag. When you have every type of suit to proto all the equipment and vehicals but can only take advantage of what bandwidth allows without sabotaging your own work why would you ever skill into more than one role? Wanna see how much can be done by one logi? http://imgur.com/AbIccKX Or minimap http://imgur.com/MyIshPzTry more than on role and get versatile instead of crying about those who are.
Well if you obviously don't wanna dedicate to the logi role why are you bitching?
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10433
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Posted - 2014.12.08 00:52:00 -
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From what I have previously experienced, lag and frame rates are not related to each other.
The bandwidth is actually meant more to address the current problem in which logistics players are marginalized by other suits like the scout and assault in addition to the problem where people spam so much equipment recklessly solely for farming WPs while they are doing other things like being a scout, assault, or heavy.
Frame rate is a secondary issue from what I see in regards to equipment spam. Some people do seem to experience a drop in frame rates when they go into a room or area heavily spammed with equipment.
Lag has almost nothing to do with equipment spam from what I see and that is completely separate from frame rates.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
1516
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Posted - 2014.12.08 00:54:00 -
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Spam all the uplinks! well I'm out, let's go shoot stuff.
Everyone hates the state, loves the feds, and don't care about the other two, well maybe the gold.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6339
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Posted - 2014.12.08 01:16:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I personally notice a surmountable amount of lag after logis start spamming uplinks and nano hives. I also notice smoother game play after many equipment items are removed from play.
It cannot be a coincidence. logis dont spam equipment.. spammers spam equipment then change suits to something else while the logis still play the same suit with most of their equipment still available
Just about all spammers are logis, yet not all logis are spammers. Though, when I said logi I meant the suit not the class.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Academy Inferno
E-R-A
227
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Posted - 2014.12.08 02:32:00 -
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From my observations frame drop from equipment only appears on "lagolatory" map combined with MD Spam or Flylock spam. Only on this map.
As an Amarr logi I don't like bandwidth idea. For few reasons:
1) When playing skirmish or Domi 1 squad +BB vs 2 squads ,my uplinks sometimes are the only ones on the map. When enemy is
too much focused on killing rather than hacking that give us a chance to win battle,
2) CCP you make 2 way nerf for one thing again. First is bandwidth, second is flux ob rewarded by silly easy to get WP.
3) Logi bonuses disproportion. Minmatar will rule the Logi world. Gal is next after Minnie. Cal and Amarr will be sh.it.
Even if bandwidth for cal and Amarr are higher then two others there is no rep tool max capacity and limited scanner
usage.
For all those people who are "real" logis, part time logis, one time only logis or people who like our job please answer me to this:
Why anybody skill into cal on ama logi where min and gal will do their job better. Rather than uplink, needle and rep tool on my ''golden boy" I will choice my Min slave with two uplinks, rep and needle. That second pair of uplink will give me more than amarr's bonus with one pair only.
BTW please don't start with: rep tool don't give triage for a while after time. That will be very very s..t argument because 6 - 7k WP score mostly from uplinks is mission impossible.
This is not post about nerf rep tool. As an Amarr specialist with all line except commando on proto I just love my pro min logi slave b...h. Thank You for Your cooperation  |
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xavier zor
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
326
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Posted - 2014.12.08 02:37:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Maybe Latino logis with crappy dial up modems.
or with the rest of Brazil connected to it 
1.10 will kill stealthy scouts
time to respec into an assault :D
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4956
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Posted - 2014.12.08 02:53:00 -
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Good idea. Let's clown. |
Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
675
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Posted - 2014.12.08 07:28:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Maybe remove vehicals, scans, lock server regions? I have personally put out 117 pieces of equipment in one round and got no lag. When you have every type of suit to proto all the equipment and vehicals but can only take advantage of what bandwidth allows without sabotaging your own work why would you ever skill into more than one role? Wanna see how much can be done by one logi? http://imgur.com/AbIccKX Or minimap http://imgur.com/MyIshPzTry more than on role and get versatile instead of crying about those who are.
It's not lag, it's a severe drop in framerate that people CALL lag. Bandwidth won't fix it but it will certainly help.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
4983
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Posted - 2014.12.08 07:48:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:I have personally put out 117 pieces of equipment in one round and got no lag.
A game design that both allows you to put 117 of something on the field, and makes having 117 of something on the field beneficial, is simply bad game design. The reality is, not having bandwidth was terrible. Performance concerns aside, uplinks need at bare minimum a cap. But a cap doesn't improve game design. Bandwidth adds a new dynamic to the game, that adds value to having logis on the field, and also prevents abuse. It makes the equipment you place and where you place it matter.
It does always hurt to lose something you once had, but often there's a good reason for it.
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