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TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.08 13:39:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:What I hear
"Please don't nerf my gun!"
I'd be fine with a BrAR being removed or Breach versions of the other guns being added.
Also if they buffed CRs or RRs (Or in RR's case, nerf the charge just a bit more.) I'd also be fine with it, but my ADV Gal sent should be able to kill and assault with a boundless faster than he can with a basic BrAR, even more so when he's playing in a militia suit. Actually I don't use the breach, I use the assault rail rifle mainly. But being a gallente loyalist I would hate to see the only effective gallente weapon be unreasonably nerfed.
Oh but I thought you said the BAR is comparative to the Duvolle in your opening argument? Looks like someone doesn't believe the bullshit they are peddling either.
Lower kick and dispersion combined with insane effective range is why it outclasses any other automatic rifle. You have to remember that until a weapon hits the absolute maximum range it deals a percentage of its damage and the higher the base damage likewise the more effective it will still be within its effective range. Likewise lower RPM means it has lower kick and dispersion which also means it has less in terms of kick and dispersion. The only way I see them fixing the breach so that it doesn't outclass the AR and TAR is if it has its optimal range was dropped to 30m instead of 40 and the effective to follow suit mathematically at 52.5 effective. When I think of breaching I think of weaponry designed for doing just that opening breaches in somethings defenses. Breach light variants should be designed as CQC variants. The Forge gun would be the exception as its breaching power is more literal (breaching hulls on vehicles with high damage.) The Duvolle TAR would be good if all the precision rifles behaved like the TAR (Horrible CQC), but until CCP finally corrects the ability to spam ScR in CQC people will always favor the ScR over the TAR. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.08 13:40:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Colossus of Sardia wrote:i run a speed tanked minmatar heavy and the BrAR is one of the most deadly weapons against me.
if i run into a Minmatar/Caldari Assault/Scout with a BrAR i'm dead 70% of the time. they drop me insanely fast while i can't scratch their shields with my HMG (somehow they strafing affects the hit detection and i only get blueshields) while they just pray n'spray.
the BrAr drops me sometimes even faster than a heavy with a HMG. it shouldnt be nerfed to the ground but something has to change (maybe increased kick-back or a shorter optimal range, so it stays king in CQC. Because your speed tanked, which breach type weapons excel against.
Breach smg and Breach Forge does not excel against speed tanks. You are making **** up. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.08 14:30:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Colossus of Sardia wrote:i run a speed tanked minmatar heavy and the BrAR is one of the most deadly weapons against me.
if i run into a Minmatar/Caldari Assault/Scout with a BrAR i'm dead 70% of the time. they drop me insanely fast while i can't scratch their shields with my HMG (somehow they strafing affects the hit detection and i only get blueshields) while they just pray n'spray.
the BrAr drops me sometimes even faster than a heavy with a HMG. it shouldnt be nerfed to the ground but something has to change (maybe increased kick-back or a shorter optimal range, so it stays king in CQC. Because your speed tanked, which breach type weapons excel against. Breach smg and Breach Forge does not excel against speed tanks. You are making **** up. Breach as in rail rifles and assault rifles... the rof of the breach SMG is slower so technically it IS better against faster targets but its still a pretty fast ROF. The breach forge doesn't really count because it isnt automatic....
We don't have breach variants outside of the AR right now though, and I'd rather take the assault variant for hitting speed tanks in CQC then the breach smg. To me breach should be the CQC variant, the Tactical is supposed to be the long range variant and the assault is supposed to be the suppression variant. Right now the BAR is both great for suppression and distance fighting. Assault variants should be the best at handling speed tanks due to their high rate of fire. This is generally true and is true with the smg but not with the BAR. That's because the BAR is too good at too many things. All variants are supposed to have a niche, if not then what the hell is the point of variants? |
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