Does ML even PC?

Yes, along with VU, HvLP, and a few others.

We just happen to be calling ourselves Titans of Phoenix now.

???

They've been removed and had to fight there way back in just as you claimed Last Vendetta guys have had too - it's not different.

And no ones made any claims to ML being able to stick together - but what's the accomplishment in that if it only means you continuously lose together?

At least the 30day corps are trying to be competitive - it's just a different mind set, and the corps who have stayed together but never been competitive like ML have no right to look down on anyone.

I give credit where credit is due, you've held land for most of your existence, however you guys are mainly doing practice battle with EXTREMELY weak corps, It's not like FA has been gunning for your ass the whole time and you've been holding them off. Some of your players are true vets who have been in PC as long as any of us, but your team as a whole is lackluster just like most after FF, the only difference is after that happened you had great eve support and an even better ground alliance to keep you guys ticking. Good on you, its more than just right time right place to be in the top alliance, but its certainly no feat of skill on the battlefield.

However credit is not given where it is due to ToP. Was VU taken out of PC? I think not. We still had more than enough districts to give them away to all of our friends and still have enough left to transfer to what we were building next.

Instead of going inactive in PCs or dropping out of any real wars when our leadership is pressed with real life, we restructure in order to accommodate that. This means switches in leadership, even switching tags at times. But no one here points fingers. No one was blaming each other and raging. We stick together as a group, we keep our core intact at all times, and at the end of the day we win our battles.

In reality, most of this naysay about corp will fall apart if we lose battles is wishful meta nonsense. Some of our players have a history. More of them don't. Which corp among us here will say they are comprised of only loyal vets with year+ long tags?
None. In truth, there's very few people left who have stuck where they started, and that rings true for both sides.

You mean, me being gone for 4 months now discredits me from my 2 year knowledge of ML getting there asses handed to them and removed like any 30 day corp?

You're either high or stupid. ML isn't in any position to judge anyone. You're complacent and thrive upon it. No ambition, no desire, no goals. You just are, that's why you aren't competitive, and that's why you have no right to judge groups who try.

The best thing you guys do is stick together and not bully corps who haven't been together or have the vets enough to compete. And now your power comes from your alliance and what teams THEY can field to keep you afloat.

You're no better then Murphy's - but you're a lot kinder, easier to deal with, definitely not tyrants, and have an honest want to help the game. But don't cross that with the right to talk **** to groups who try in order to build up your own ego you don't deserve to have.

You should be on our side, fighting against another Donut you've become. Isn't that what ML has always done?

TBH we've been fielding SoDa on a fairly regular basis, and hes landed in the top couple players on the list every time.

*MEANWHILE* Roman drops 4 orbitals in a match and goes 3-14 with 4 teamkills.

But that aside lets get to the meat of your argument shall we?
Yes we point out your current ability in PC. No we don't place attacks on you and try to flip ur land because there's really no reason to, I'm pretty sure very few of our players hold hostilities with each other. That being said I see y'all saying 'Just you wait until your losing, then you'll fall apart, you'll see!' as if saying it more is going to make it more likely.
I know the records of the players surrounding us. Some of them are short, some of them are long. But if I and so many others were not confident in our preparation/leadership and division of labor we would have never pushed out with the momentum that we did.
In terms of making us lose though, I don't have to ask. ML wont be hitting us, if we ever fell apart you'd have little to no hand in it. Your perfectly free to continue running the weak battles your running now to keep moral high, but if your going to sit on the sidelines, keep your commentary there too.

Also, as posted earlier

"In conclusion,

I don't really want to be arguing with u as its not nearly as fun as MULA, and I am mainly confused why ML got into this conversation in the first place."

I was clearly not talking like some kind of 'PC royalty', I think your more upset that my argument has valid points.
So unless you had another reason for joining in this convo, I'l stick with the aforementioned 'Wishful Meta' theory.

Upset? I was in the process of diffusing your involvement in a debate that has very little to do with you (or at least trying to) before you whipped your balls out to let everyone know they hadn't shrunk any.
To get me upset you generally have to betray me from inside my own ranks, a bit of mild forum flame has a long way to go before I'l get angry.
That being said if your gonna sht on our PC team/corp I'm gonna call you on it, 100% of the time, simple as that. I stand up for my corp. We were happy to fight DNS & TSO's when we were a fresh little PFC corp in TPF trying to offer what ever little inspiration we could muster. I don't speak passive-aggressive, or like I've gained 'PC royalty', I speak as I always have. A man who defends his corp regardless if were small and weak fighting a giant tyrant or if were on the winning side.

Yea, you lose battles, you aren't getting better or trying. How's that hard to understand? Your corp is great for the people whose in it - but you aren't exactly trying to do anything, ever.

You're not exactly holding back when you bring up there corp hopping and tag changing like it's a negative slur. You aren't any better then them.

But Poncho - you did start with the corp trash talking if you check the thread, lol. I'm high and read it wrong the first time through xD

Now that's a crock of sh*t.

Basically - ML isn't motivated so bleh.

Well, that's boring. Time to go finish Kataganami or however it's spelt. Enjoy your night. o7

lol We fought throughout the whole locking debacle.

Please don't.

Perhaps I read it in the wrong tone, but I took the response of no war happening as a discredit to our capabilities.

Hense the 'do you even PC'

wow it must be international throw stones liveing in a glass house day.

STFU Thor who da fuq do you think you are?? lol as much As i appreciate ML and your guys, your trash talk is going too far in a problem you're not even part of. Go back to the hole you belong and stop putting your nose in grown up problems, especially when ML hasn't done **** for ages. You can say whatever you want but corps like TOP,BLR,1UP,Red*and KEQ are the ones keeping PC alive, and trust me it's not thanks to you guys. Like I said you're nobody and you don't have part in this party , in the other hand ML has potential but once again not thanks to you Thor, even though Ml doesn't have the strength to do **** right now they always overcome wars and I respect and admire that, as a result once again the only reason we haven't hit you guys is because we have waaaaay more fun fighting MU-LA than wasting our time fighting with nonsense scrubs like you Thor have a good day butthurt ***!!

Yeah sorry Thor but this is 100% not true.