DUST Search - Hows the war going?

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

I agree with everything you've said for the most part. I like the VU guys as I've said many times. I think you guys have joined forces with some people that will ultimately let you down as they've done continually.

As far as ML being lucky to be allied with strong people, would you care for a history lesson?

League of Infamy- Kujo betrays Hellstorm days after starting war with Eon
ROFL- all corps outside of ML stop PCing within days of our arrival.
Public Disorder- not much happened here
Tso's- before the donut we brought in RND, they bailed to DNS with FA after like 10 minutes of war, they didn't even show up to its battles.

Only after DNS broke up did ML ever find itself in the overpowered side. And Tso's has not behaved even remotely as heavy handed as donuts previous. Murphy has had beef with BR so if we attacked them (can't really as they lock) it would look like Tso's is mass attacking. KEQ is an old ally, we fight them from to time to time. We used to fight VU quite a bit. Outside of that who is there to fight?


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Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 580	Posted - 2014.12.06 13:47:00 - [1] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: No wars to be had, despite ToP trying very hard to stir things up. At best there's a skirmish or two happening. Does ML even PC? Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213
Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 588	Posted - 2014.12.06 19:34:00 - [2] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Atiim wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Poncho Polous wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: No wars to be had, despite ToP trying very hard to stir things up. At best there's a skirmish or two happening. Does ML even PC? Never stopped. Does Pheonix Fed? Yes, along with VU, HvLP, and a few others. We just happen to be calling ourselves Titans of Phoenix now. Oh I'm aware, I just think it's funny to see dudes jump on a bandwagon and have their balls swell up. Bandwagon? That's funny cause I thought I was one of the first people over here rebuilding ToP. My balls are large, not swollen. And I ask if you PC because its been a long, LONG time since I saw any single member of ML in any real battle. Anywhere. Who knows maybe y'all are at the forefront of a great battle I'm just ignorant of, but as of right now I believe you could not stay in PC without your significantly stronger allies. Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213
Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 596	Posted - 2014.12.07 02:23:00 - [3] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Poncho, I haven't PC'd much in the last year. The times aren't good for me (family prime time). But ML is always here, sometimes good sometimes not so much. But we've been able to do what very few have been able to do. Which is to stay active, keep plugging in players into PC, and avoid big ups and downs. This is the war room, there hasn't been much of this bantering back and forth in some time and I'd say it's a welcome change. That said, talk all you want but we'll still be here in a few months. I'll be very, very surprised if you guys are. Hopefully I'm wrong, but you guys aren't strong enough to avoid losing and you've filled your ranks with people that have a long history of folding under pressure and pointing fingers. That's just the cold hard truth. I give credit where credit is due, you've held land for most of your existence, however you guys are mainly doing practice battle with EXTREMELY weak corps, It's not like FA has been gunning for your ass the whole time and you've been holding them off. Some of your players are true vets who have been in PC as long as any of us, but your team as a whole is lackluster just like most after FF, the only difference is after that happened you had great eve support and an even better ground alliance to keep you guys ticking. Good on you, its more than just right time right place to be in the top alliance, but its certainly no feat of skill on the battlefield. However credit is not given where it is due to ToP. Was VU taken out of PC? I think not. We still had more than enough districts to give them away to all of our friends and still have enough left to transfer to what we were building next. Instead of going inactive in PCs or dropping out of any real wars when our leadership is pressed with real life, we restructure in order to accommodate that. This means switches in leadership, even switching tags at times. But no one here points fingers. No one was blaming each other and raging. We stick together as a group, we keep our core intact at all times, and at the end of the day we win our battles. In reality, most of this naysay about corp will fall apart if we lose battles is wishful meta nonsense. Some of our players have a history. More of them don't. Which corp among us here will say they are comprised of only loyal vets with year+ long tags? None. In truth, there's very few people left who have stuck where they started, and that rings true for both sides. Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213
Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 596	Posted - 2014.12.07 02:47:00 - [4] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: So, this call to war of Roman's...might it be called puts on sunglasses An "Attack on Titan"? This CANT be the first time this joke was made. Did it really take this long? Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213
Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 596	Posted - 2014.12.07 02:53:00 - [5] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Poncho Polous wrote: Everything Dies wrote: So, this call to war of Roman's...might it be called puts on sunglasses An "Attack on Titan"? This CANT be the first time this joke was made. Did it really take this long? I know, it seemed so obvious...I just didn't want to sit and read through the six pages of Roman's manifesto to make sure It's ok I think you took first place this time. Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213
Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 597	Posted - 2014.12.07 03:22:00 - [6] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: WTF are you talking about? When is the last time you've actually been part of a PC team? I'll look down on people all day long that we've beaten in any of the groups they've thrown together but watch continually fall apart. Especially when you make comments about our ability to throw down in a PC. Ask some of the dudes in ToP that have actually played against us. Would you guys beat us right now? Perhaps, but that's what happens when you take three PC corps and merge them. When you sprinkle in the others that have left solid teams it's clear you've put a good team together. You should be beating people. TBH we've been fielding SoDa on a fairly regular basis, and hes landed in the top couple players on the list every time. MEANWHILE Roman drops 4 orbitals in a match and goes 3-14 with 4 teamkills. But that aside lets get to the meat of your argument shall we? Yes we point out your current ability in PC. No we don't place attacks on you and try to flip ur land because there's really no reason to, I'm pretty sure very few of our players hold hostilities with each other. That being said I see y'all saying 'Just you wait until your losing, then you'll fall apart, you'll see!' as if saying it more is going to make it more likely. I know the records of the players surrounding us. Some of them are short, some of them are long. But if I and so many others were not confident in our preparation/leadership and division of labor we would have never pushed out with the momentum that we did. In terms of making us lose though, I don't have to ask. ML wont be hitting us, if we ever fell apart you'd have little to no hand in it. Your perfectly free to continue running the weak battles your running now to keep moral high, but if your going to sit on the sidelines, keep your commentary there too. Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213
Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 597	Posted - 2014.12.07 03:29:00 - [7] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I agree with everything you've said for the most part. I like the VU guys as I've said many times. I think you guys have joined forces with some people that will ultimately let you down as they've done continually. As far as ML being lucky to be allied with strong people, would you care for a history lesson? League of Infamy- Kujo betrays Hellstorm days after starting war with Eon ROFL- all corps outside of ML stop PCing within days of our arrival. Public Disorder- not much happened here Tso's- before the donut we brought in RND, they bailed to DNS with FA after like 10 minutes of war, they didn't even show up to its battles. Only after DNS broke up did ML ever find itself in the overpowered side. And Tso's has not behaved even remotely as heavy handed as donuts previous. Murphy has had beef with BR so if we attacked them (can't really as they lock) it would look like Tso's is mass attacking. KEQ is an old ally, we fight them from to time to time. We used to fight VU quite a bit. Outside of that who is there to fight? I was under the impression it was O.H holding that last portion of land when DNS took over not ML. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when that happened, and the OP alliance was against you, you got taken out of PC just like the rest. Also, I hate to do this to you, but would you care for a reading lesson? I literally said the exact opposite lol, I said you get credit for being in the strong alliance, it takes some tact and political skills to maneuver around alliances and end up on top, but that that's all the credit to be given for it, and it is not to be taken as a representation of the teams skill on the battlefield as a whole. In conclusion, I don't really want to be arguing with u as its not nearly as fun as MULA, and I am mainly confused why ML got into this conversation in the first place. Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213
Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 597	Posted - 2014.12.07 03:50:00 - [8] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: [quote=Poncho Polous][quote=Thor Odinson42] WTF are you talking about? When is the last time you've actually been part of a PC team? I'll look down on people all day long that we've beaten in any of the groups they've thrown together but watch continually fall apart. Especially when you make comments Ask ERA about ML. We were pistol whipping them the weeks leading up to them falling apart. Maybe we should have a hand in making you fall apart. It might help us shake off some complaceny. I'm damn sure not going to listen to the ******* former director of Pheonix Fed talking like he's part of some PC royalty. Hmmm... interesting.... if ML > ERA and MULA = old ERA... R u saying ML > MULA? And sht, I was a director? damn.... DEMOTED. Oh, and are we back in the Salt Mines already? How u gonna talk about looking down on our PC team and not expect to get called on it lmfao If you think your team is ready to stack up, by all means place an attack. Just don't come flap ur tittties about our corp being this and that and then get salty on the rebuttal EDIT: Tripple T TiTTTies Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213
Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 597	Posted - 2014.12.07 03:56:00 - [9] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Ask ERA about ML. We were pistol whipping them the weeks leading up to them falling apart. Maybe we should have a hand in making you fall apart. It might help us shake off some complaceny. I'm damn sure not going to listen to the ******* former director of Pheonix Fed talking like he's part of some PC royalty. Also, as posted earlier "In conclusion, I don't really want to be arguing with u as its not nearly as fun as MULA, and I am mainly confused why ML got into this conversation in the first place." I was clearly not talking like some kind of 'PC royalty', I think your more upset that my argument has valid points. So unless you had another reason for joining in this convo, I'l stick with the aforementioned 'Wishful Meta' theory. Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213
Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 598	Posted - 2014.12.07 04:24:00 - [10] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm no more upset than you are. I'm just not passive aggressive. Upset? I was in the process of diffusing your involvement in a debate that has very little to do with you (or at least trying to) before you whipped your balls out to let everyone know they hadn't shrunk any. To get me upset you generally have to betray me from inside my own ranks, a bit of mild forum flame has a long way to go before I'l get angry. That being said if your gonna sht on our PC team/corp I'm gonna call you on it, 100% of the time, simple as that. I stand up for my corp. We were happy to fight DNS & TSO's when we were a fresh little PFC corp in TPF trying to offer what ever little inspiration we could muster. I don't speak passive-aggressive, or like I've gained 'PC royalty', I speak as I always have. A man who defends his corp regardless if were small and weak fighting a giant tyrant or if were on the winning side. Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213

Poncho Polous Titans of Phoenix 618	Posted - 2014.12.07 06:04:00 - [11] - Quote Jynx'D wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Do you really not understand? Groups get run out of PC then jump in some other group, then talk **** to you about how bad you are? Do I need crayons? Yea, you lose battles, you aren't getting better or trying. How's that hard to understand? Your corp is great for the people whose in it - but you aren't exactly trying to do anything, ever. You're not exactly holding back when you bring up there corp hopping and tag changing like it's a negative slur. You aren't any better then them. But Poncho - you did start with the corp trash talking if you check the thread, lol. I'm high and read it wrong the first time through xD Perhaps I read it in the wrong tone, but I took the response of no war happening as a discredit to our capabilities. Hense the 'do you even PC' Titans of Phoenix > Director "I can hire the best... but I use alliance instead." - Roman8213