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zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:11:00 -
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I've tended to use it a bit, quickly get disgusted with its ADS recoil, and drop it. But recently its hipfire recoil was reduced (maybe ADS kick was increased at the same time. I can't keep track) and I'm starting to think it's pretty good hipfiring. It's actually better the closer you are. I was thinking it needed more balancing and that something needed to be done about the ADS recoil but now I'm not sure.
Of course there have definitely been times when its hipfire weaknesses are exposed. The kick will get out of control after a couple seconds. You gotta fire it in long bursts of maybe 20 rounds each.
Do y'all think it's in a good spot or not? |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:16:00 -
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Yes and no.
CR and AR are way better at hipfire -- the gun still kicks like a mule in CQC albeit it takes more shots to get there than it did. Regular RR is better at range, and the gap has widened with the most recent nerf to ADS.
So it's in a better place than it was, but it is still lackluster, IMO. |
Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:20:00 -
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Arr is good, as someone who has used it frequently since its release I can say CCP has improved this weapon a ton.
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zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:31:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Arr is good, as someone who has used it frequently since its release I can say CCP has improved this weapon a ton.
What exactly is it good at? |
Jack 3enimble
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:32:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Arr is good, as someone who has used it frequently since its release I can say CCP has improved this weapon a ton.
This |
Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:36:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Arr is good, as someone who has used it frequently since its release I can say CCP has improved this weapon a ton. What exactly is it good at?
Idk how to say this without coming off as a ****... Okay it's like an AR but it's a lot harder to use so instead of putting it away keep it out and use it. Get the feel for it, learn to tame the lion. Then it'll be your beast.
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Valor Goat
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:37:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:I've tended to use it a bit, quickly get disgusted with its ADS recoil, and drop it. But recently its hipfire recoil was reduced (maybe ADS kick was increased at the same time. I can't keep track) and I'm starting to think it's pretty good hipfiring. It's actually better the closer you are. I was thinking it needed more balancing and that something needed to be done about the ADS recoil but now I'm not sure.
Of course there have definitely been times when its hipfire weaknesses are exposed. The kick will get out of control after a couple seconds. You gotta fire it in long bursts of maybe 20 rounds each.
Do y'all think it's in a good spot or not?
I'm using it well in both pubs and PC, both range and CQC.
It's in a really good place now compared to how it used to be.
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Jack 3enimble
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:42:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Arr is good, as someone who has used it frequently since its release I can say CCP has improved this weapon a ton. What exactly is it good at? Idk how to say this without coming off as a ****... Okay it's like an AR but it's a lot harder to use so instead of putting it away keep it out and use it. Get the feel for it, learn to tame the lion. Then it'll be your beast.
Don't forget that if you want to use the ARR effectively you got to have RR operation lvl 5 to reduce the kick. For some reason I notice it more on the ARR than on the RR.
Like Heimdall said, I've used this beast when it came out. |
KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:49:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:I've tended to use it a bit, quickly get disgusted with its ADS recoil, and drop it. But recently its hipfire recoil was reduced (maybe ADS kick was increased at the same time. I can't keep track) and I'm starting to think it's pretty good hipfiring. It's actually better the closer you are. I was thinking it needed more balancing and that something needed to be done about the ADS recoil but now I'm not sure.
Of course there have definitely been times when its hipfire weaknesses are exposed. The kick will get out of control after a couple seconds. You gotta fire it in long bursts of maybe 20 rounds each.
Do y'all think it's in a good spot or not?
ITs pretty good at close med ranges. But whats the point , we have AR's for that.(breach and regular AR, Combat rifles too)
For longer ranges, stick to the regular RR, Tac AR or SCR...or Laser if you are Protocake or myself.....or some other amarrian nutjob...
Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.05 21:49:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Arr is good, as someone who has used it frequently since its release I can say CCP has improved this weapon a ton. What exactly is it good at? Idk how to say this without coming off as a ****... Okay it's like an AR but it's a lot harder to use so instead of putting it away keep it out and use it. Get the feel for it, learn to tame the lion. Then it'll be your beast. Don't forget that if you want to use the ARR effectively you got to have RR operation lvl 5 to reduce the kick. For some reason I notice it more on the ARR than on the RR. Like Heimdall said, I've used this beast when it came out.
Ohh good catch, my bad =ƒÿü
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zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2014.12.05 23:10:00 -
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Good compared to where it was doesn't much matter. Good in a useful role compared to other rifles now is what matters. I can see how it could get better over time. I like the metaphor of taming the beast. A good way to look at dealing with the kick, knowing what range is best to engage at, knowing when it's at a disadvantage or vice versa.
I like that it gives Cal Assaults a CQC option. If it's hipfire and ADS are balanced with eah other then I guess it's good. |
Lloyd Orfay
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.05 23:28:00 -
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The gun is supposed to have its recoil go crazy, why did you think the RR was the most used weapon in the first place? Beccause it was CQCeable(and still is), has barely any recoil or charge time.
Both rail weapons are still missing the thing all rifle weapons here should have: the inability to be used in CQC at all, proper recoil, no insane alpha damage trends, better damage profiles, and tweaks to their rate of fire/ clip size/ total ammo amount/ reload etc based upon any changes given to them.
My Isk payout gets lower and lower the more I play, even though I'm getting better. Smells like success.
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