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Sasha Silver
duna corp
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Posted - 2014.12.05 16:58:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: LOL plays the new COD?
That says all I need to know about you.
Got a problem with that? Probs cause you dont have the reaction time required to play it and you are yealous. Dust isnt known for actual skill requirement. Just get a gal. logi with scanners, blob up and win without breaking a sweat. Sorry but this is the sad truth about this game. In other games this would be know as "wallhack" but here its legit. Tell me you're not implying... that playing COD takes SKILL?!?!
Sasha Silver - The ISK Whore
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
105
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:03:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I have purchased 4 respec's and I'm really thinking about another one , just trying out new things and keeping my word to CCP in giving them compensation for the compromise but I think one more might just do it .
To be honest I don't want no more HMG and heavy to be honest , besides commando and I might just go back to Cal Logi but without the scanners and uplinks .
I already had my core maxed to everything at 5 now and I see how that is but every time I miss something that I had and am glad I got rid of the thing that I tried .
With the up coming changes , it would be good to have a bank of SP's to navigate the circumstances .
I just want to be different , that's all .
Four respecs and you are considering your 5th? I am going to suggest you try a little more planning and management before you respec again. |
Michael Epic
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
350
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:07:00 -
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Sasha Silver wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: LOL plays the new COD?
That says all I need to know about you.
Got a problem with that? Probs cause you dont have the reaction time required to play it and you are yealous. Dust isnt known for actual skill requirement. Just get a gal. logi with scanners, blob up and win without breaking a sweat. Sorry but this is the sad truth about this game. In other games this would be know as "wallhack" but here its legit. Tell me you're not implying... that playing COD takes SKILL?!?!
You beat me too it lmao OMG I'm so excited about his post....*ahem* f!ck, I feel like I should put on my suit and tie for this glorious event lol
First off, call of duty is not a tactical shooter. Its a run and gun shooter where the object is to kill as many people as fast as you can to get a killstreak and call in bigger and more bad ass ways to kill people. COD is the game for the FPS players that Dust 514 scares away.
The grind of this game is excruciating. This game is a hardcore and grueling FPS game. Its just like EVE Online which is a hardcore and grueling MMO.
You won't always win here. You'll get a KDR in a match of 64/0 one match and then 0/64 in the next match. It can change on you that quick and it takes a long time to be able to adapt to the various scenarios that play out. Lately, HMG users have been ruling the battlefield and through their tyranny...many of the player base is going BROKE.
Plus there is isk management, just because you've got your proto gear doesn't mean you got the money to run it! In COD you have as many respawns as you possibly want with your chosen loadout! In Dust 514 you have to be smart and have strategy.
Call of Duty is the land of jaded Dust 514 wannabes lol
PLUS! Oh yeah, all your stupid little MODDED F!CKING CONTROLLERS don't work in this game..so you can't get your cheating on lol plus your lag switches don't work in this game because it runs on......
D E D I C A T E D S E R V E R S
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
105
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:17:00 -
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Sasha Silver wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: LOL plays the new COD?
That says all I need to know about you.
Got a problem with that? Probs cause you dont have the reaction time required to play it and you are yealous. Dust isnt known for actual skill requirement. Just get a gal. logi with scanners, blob up and win without breaking a sweat. Sorry but this is the sad truth about this game. In other games this would be know as "wallhack" but here its legit. Tell me you're not implying... that playing COD takes SKILL?!?!
I am going to say it does to a degree; depends on who you are up against. I used to play COD before I started playing this game and in order for someone to have a reasonable shot coming up against me in that game you would need a good degree of skill, really fast reaction time, and impressive situational awareness.
I do believe more skill is required for Dust514 so long as you are not dependent on a squad to win. With Dust every clone you fight is pretty much built differently so you have to consider those differences when you engage someone. In COD there is very little difference between one person and the next so ultimately winning comes down to who is quickest to react.
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1616
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:21:00 -
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yeh i regret buying a respec (kind of) I dont mind supporting CCP but spending money just to move skill points in a game and it's bloody expensive too, won't be getting one on any of my other accounts.
it's just too damned expensive but being skilled into mass driver and 6 suits was not helping me.
DUST VIDEOS
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
615
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Posted - 2014.12.05 17:40:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:Sasha Silver wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: LOL plays the new COD?
That says all I need to know about you.
Got a problem with that? Probs cause you dont have the reaction time required to play it and you are yealous. Dust isnt known for actual skill requirement. Just get a gal. logi with scanners, blob up and win without breaking a sweat. Sorry but this is the sad truth about this game. In other games this would be know as "wallhack" but here its legit. Tell me you're not implying... that playing COD takes SKILL?!?! You beat me too it lmao OMG I'm so excited about his post....*ahem* f!ck, I feel like I should put on my suit and tie for this glorious event lol First off, call of duty is not a tactical shooter. Its a run and gun shooter where the object is to kill as many people as fast as you can to get a killstreak and call in bigger and more bad ass ways to kill people. COD is the game for the FPS players that Dust 514 scares away. The grind of this game is excruciating. This game is a hardcore and grueling FPS game. Its just like EVE Online which is a hardcore and grueling MMO. You won't always win here. You'll get a KDR in a match of 64/0 one match and then 0/64 in the next match. It can change on you that quick and it takes a long time to be able to adapt to the various scenarios that play out. Lately, HMG users have been ruling the battlefield and through their tyranny...many of the player base is going BROKE. Plus there is isk management, just because you've got your proto gear doesn't mean you got the money to run it! In COD you have as many respawns as you possibly want with your chosen loadout! In Dust 514 you have to be smart and have strategy. Call of Duty is the land of jaded Dust 514 wannabes lol PLUS! Oh yeah, all your stupid little MODDED F!CKING CONTROLLERS don't work in this game..so you can't get your cheating on lol plus your lag switches don't work in this game because it runs on...... D E D I C A T E D S E R V E R S That's gotta hurt.... lol thats why Dust has such a big playerbase and FW is working fine and the game has gotten good critics from game reviewers oh wait a sec it does not. Ofcourse modded controllers work on Dust it works with the combat rifle, TAC AR and scrambler rifle. Did you even played the new COD? Its not like its previous variations and camping is allmost impossible to do. And your dedicated servers are worthless when they are incapable to get you into FW matches without waiting 1 hour.
So whats "tactical" about dust? -Its active scanner spam to see people trough walls? -Sitting in a corner with a cloak and a shotgun? -Scouts running around with remote explosives which are thrown like frisbees? -Blobbing with 16 people to just run around cause individual gunplay doesnt matter? -camping rooftops with forgeguns? -sitting in the redline with a sniper rifle? -drive by with a LAV and HMG?
Yeah sure all those elements are what a "tactical" shoter makes. I might aswell call camping "tactical hiding" instead by that logic. Lets be real here dust is damn easy to play and if your KD is less then 4 (mine is above 7) you are doing it damn wrong. Before you run off to check the KD on this toon dont bother its just a forum alt and if you havent figured out my real char then my sig might help you.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2657
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Posted - 2014.12.06 04:06:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: LOL plays the new COD?
That says all I need to know about you.
Got a problem with that? Probs cause you dont have the reaction time required to play it and you are yealous. Dust isnt known for actual skill requirement. Just get a gal. logi with scanners, blob up and win without breaking a sweat. Sorry but this is the sad truth about this game. In other games this would be know as "wallhack" but here its legit.
Even by COD standards the last few have been terrible. Modern warfare 1 was great I played that a lot but after MW2 things went downhill fast.
And talk about reactions, I was playing Quake and Unreal Tourney back in the day bro I know about twitch shooters.
If blobbing up with Gall Scanners is all it takes to defeat people in this game then they need to learn to strategise and use tactics in battle.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
352
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Posted - 2014.12.06 06:23:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I have purchased 4 respec's and I'm really thinking about another one , just trying out new things and keeping my word to CCP in giving them compensation for the compromise but I think one more might just do it
I already had my core maxed to everything at 5 now and I see how that is but every time I miss something that I had and am glad I got rid of the thing.....
I just want to be different , that's all . Four respecs and you are considering your 5th? I am going to suggest you try a little more planning and management before you respec again.
I am one of the players who LOATHED the idea of mercifully giving respecs (...in a game that is supposed to be about valuing your gains, feeling the fear of risk, grinding to acheive your goals, and hurting from your mistakes and bad decisions, adding a redo-buttong sort of defeats the game's purpose).
But I also learned how deliciously crafty and "New Eden" the devs of these EVE games are----they never give you a merciful band-aid, even when it LOOKS like an act of fairness and mercy. Just the way "Aurum" is peddled like ******* in every place your character stands around in, "respec" is being "offered" to you as a way to 'purchase a repeat on your clone's life', and it is a velvet carpet room with just enough opium in it for those who didn't fall for *******. I mean that in fun---not criticism to Dust 514. The devs have a product that has a right to be "free" for the user, and pursuade the user to energetically pony up something in return that will profit the side-person who's paying for all this "free gaming" for us.
But Summa's post is the reminder about HOW Dust was meant to be played. Lots of us still mention CoD, MAG, etc., and if you land on Dust thinking that it's still designed to be a soldier-shooter game, you'll always be respec-ing "one more time" and never progressing as far as some of us who don't respec.
Dust is actually the same Planning and Management game as EVE, only with people shooting at your face so it feels a lot more urgent and bloody. You're supposed to explore a specialty for your character (make many character accounts if you want), and only use your SP to grind that single specialty into a master-Lvl career. Your ought to be doing the "exploring" (changing/trying-out new jobs) using just militia and basic assets----you start full SP grinding only when you've "chosen" a job, and aren't meant to be using up SP in the exploring and trying-out of jobs.
That's why I say Kudos to the folks who post here that they have stockpiles of SP they haven't touched UNTIL they get around to picking a career to master.
Humbly Honored Bow for those of us who picked ONE job per character, and aptly used all our SP (with some moments of wasted SP that hurt us sometimes) to reach levels of fitting proficiency AND game-controller mastery at that job, that constant respec-ing could keep you from ever reaching.
'Yikes', is all I can say to repeated respecs of the same character again and again... That looks like addictive mis-management and "career-student" life to some of us, and not what we consider SUCCESSFULLY conquering Dust.
But hey, we all have our different definitions for what "successful" means at this game. Thank heaven it's not real life we're talking about.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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JIMvc2
The Wanga Empire Strikes Back
453
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Posted - 2014.12.06 06:28:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Respecs bought: 0 planning to buy respecs: 0
That money you have spend on this game just so you can reallocate your SP could have beeing spend to get you a completely new game. Stuff like this shouldnt cost money. Why? Cause in M.A.G. that was a feature which shipped with the game itself and did cost 0Gé¼. What CCP is doing is hooking you up on a addictive mechanism. The game is barely enjoyable and with spending Gé¼ you increase the enjoyment by just a little bit. Soon your are addicted to that like when smoking cigs. Its a dirty thing if you ask me. Thank god i have more ISK then i ever could spend in my life. Oh and all those militia BPO you see? Well guess what they costed before the game went live? 30AUR a piece.
I agree. The respec in MAG was omg awesome. if only Dust was like MAG. Sadly its a version of MAG but backwards.
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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Stevez Wingyip
DUST University Ivy League
22
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Posted - 2014.12.06 06:37:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I have purchased 4 respec's and I'm really thinking about another one , just trying out new things and keeping my word to CCP in giving them compensation for the compromise but I think one more might just do it .
To be honest I don't want no more HMG and heavy to be honest , besides commando and I might just go back to Cal Logi but without the scanners and uplinks .
I already had my core maxed to everything at 5 now and I see how that is but every time I miss something that I had and am glad I got rid of the thing that I tried .
With the up coming changes , it would be good to have a bank of SP's to navigate the circumstances .
I just want to be different , that's all .
I will never purchase a Respec and I hate that you can. I used to play DUST when your choices matter and I intend to keep playing it like that. |
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
618
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Posted - 2014.12.06 09:21:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: LOL plays the new COD?
That says all I need to know about you.
Got a problem with that? Probs cause you dont have the reaction time required to play it and you are yealous. Dust isnt known for actual skill requirement. Just get a gal. logi with scanners, blob up and win without breaking a sweat. Sorry but this is the sad truth about this game. In other games this would be know as "wallhack" but here its legit. Even by COD standards the last few have been terrible. Modern warfare 1 was great I played that a lot but after MW2 things went downhill fast. And talk about reactions, I was playing Quake and Unreal Tourney back in the day bro I know about twitch shooters. If blobbing up with Gall Scanners is all it takes to defeat people in this game then they need to learn to strategise and use tactics in battle. Tactics are useless when you allways know the location of the enemy. When they can see you comming from a mile away they just set up a camp spot waiting for you and then you get a nice welcome with buttloads of bullets as soon you turn around the corner. Intel is the most overpowered thing in any FPS game. Last time ive played a dom and our side was loosing badly cause of alot of scouts where crawling around the objective, then i pulled out my focused scanner and you saw scouts beeing scanned and they died left right and centre. This turned the match from loosing to redlining the "strong opposition".
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
965
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Posted - 2014.12.06 10:21:00 -
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If you spend that money on boosters, you could be expanding your skillset by millions of SP.
I calculated that I could at least make about 4 mil additional SP with $20 of boosters.
ISK Trader
channel: blitz
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Immortal John Ripper
26339
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Posted - 2014.12.06 10:22:00 -
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you can never buy enough aurum.
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General John Ripper
26345
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Posted - 2014.12.06 10:22:00 -
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you can never buy enough aurum.
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Michael Epic
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
360
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Posted - 2014.12.06 15:27:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Sasha Silver wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: LOL plays the new COD?
That says all I need to know about you.
Got a problem with that? Probs cause you dont have the reaction time required to play it and you are yealous. Dust isnt known for actual skill requirement. Just get a gal. logi with scanners, blob up and win without breaking a sweat. Sorry but this is the sad truth about this game. In other games this would be know as "wallhack" but here its legit. Tell me you're not implying... that playing COD takes SKILL?!?! You beat me too it lmao OMG I'm so excited about his post....*ahem* f!ck, I feel like I should put on my suit and tie for this glorious event lol First off, call of duty is not a tactical shooter. Its a run and gun shooter where the object is to kill as many people as fast as you can to get a killstreak and call in bigger and more bad ass ways to kill people. COD is the game for the FPS players that Dust 514 scares away. The grind of this game is excruciating. This game is a hardcore and grueling FPS game. Its just like EVE Online which is a hardcore and grueling MMO. You won't always win here. You'll get a KDR in a match of 64/0 one match and then 0/64 in the next match. It can change on you that quick and it takes a long time to be able to adapt to the various scenarios that play out. Lately, HMG users have been ruling the battlefield and through their tyranny...many of the player base is going BROKE. Plus there is isk management, just because you've got your proto gear doesn't mean you got the money to run it! In COD you have as many respawns as you possibly want with your chosen loadout! In Dust 514 you have to be smart and have strategy. Call of Duty is the land of jaded Dust 514 wannabes lol PLUS! Oh yeah, all your stupid little MODDED F!CKING CONTROLLERS don't work in this game..so you can't get your cheating on lol plus your lag switches don't work in this game because it runs on...... D E D I C A T E D S E R V E R S That's gotta hurt.... lol thats why Dust has such a big playerbase and FW is working fine and the game has gotten good critics from game reviewers oh wait a sec it does not. Ofcourse modded controllers work on Dust it works with the combat rifle, TAC AR and scrambler rifle. Did you even played the new COD? Its not like its previous variations and camping is allmost impossible to do. And your dedicated servers are worthless when they are incapable to get you into FW matches without waiting 1 hour. So whats "tactical" about dust? -Its active scanner spam to see people trough walls? -Sitting in a corner with a cloak and a shotgun? -Scouts running around with remote explosives which are thrown like frisbees? -Blobbing with 16 people to just run around cause individual gunplay doesnt matter? -camping rooftops with forgeguns? -sitting in the redline with a sniper rifle? -drive by with a LAV and HMG? Yeah sure all those elements are what a "tactical" shoter makes. I might aswell call camping "tactical hiding" instead by that logic. Lets be real here dust is damn easy to play and if your KD is less then 4 (mine is above 7) you are doing it damn wrong. Before you run off to check the KD on this toon dont bother its just a forum alt and if you havent figured out my real char then my sig might help you.
I'm honestly stunned that you think I would go run off to check your KDR. It would have never occurred to me to do that...honestly I don't give a **** about your KDR or my KDR!
You know what my KDR is? 1.00
18,560 kills 18,508 deaths
I don't play to maintain a KDR. I play just to have a good time and when Dust 514 pisses me off, I play Destiny. When I get bored of Destiny, I watch TV.
Run off to check your KDR lmao please son....and I don't give a damn about your main *spins fingers* |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
618
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Posted - 2014.12.06 15:48:00 -
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1 K/D? Damn you are one of those bottom feeders. All your opinions are now neglected due to n00b/scrub status.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1506
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Posted - 2014.12.06 16:16:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I have purchased 4 respec's and I'm really thinking about another one , just trying out new things and keeping my word to CCP in giving them compensation for the compromise but I think one more might just do it .
To be honest I don't want no more HMG and heavy to be honest , besides commando and I might just go back to Cal Logi but without the scanners and uplinks .
I already had my core maxed to everything at 5 now and I see how that is but every time I miss something that I had and am glad I got rid of the thing that I tried .
With the up coming changes , it would be good to have a bank of SP's to navigate the circumstances .
I just want to be different , that's all . Four respecs and you are considering your 5th? I am going to suggest you try a little more planning and management before you respec again. I was trying out new suits , weapons and roles that I didn't have the option to do before but all the time I know what I like to do and what I ended up doing and that's where I am now .
I see where people say one thing about something and I didn't know what there talking about but now I seen for myself and found out items that were useful to me , that I wouldn't have known about if I didn't do what I did .
It was fun and it was far more helpful then it seems .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1506
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Posted - 2014.12.06 16:19:00 -
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Clone D wrote:If you spend that money on boosters, you could be expanding your skillset by millions of SP.
I calculated that I could at least make about 4 mil additional SP with $20 of boosters. I started to notice that actually and again , that wouldn't have happened if I didn't do what I did , I would buy boosters every time and they do help .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1506
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Posted - 2014.12.06 16:40:00 -
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Stevez Wingyip wrote:
I will never purchase a Respec and I hate that you can. I used to play DUST when your choices matter and I intend to keep playing it like that.
Choices mattering in a game of constant change is kinda moot point .
Items are reworked , get removed , new one's introduced , mechanics reworked , gameplay de and evolving all makes one's choices kinda null in some instances when you pick a style or form , people come to the forums and complain about it and it's not even FOTM like rooftop spawns , or a broken mechanic like cloaked killing players and it get's changed because people lobby to do so , so your choices could possibly change because some in the community make that happen and makes your choices moot .
I can't say I like the EQ proposals because I haven't seen them in action yet , and when CCP crunch numbers the community is like all claps , until it's in motion and then the complaints come .
People talk about which game has strategy or how this game lacks it but the community has to own up to being part of the problem when they endorse glitches and prop up the " next FOTM " but give no focus on issues like getting stuck on terrain or the cloaked kill instant .
They sometimes kill the real strategy of this game by there lobbing .
People are smart who play Dust 514 and like creating jihad jeeps or suicide DS ramming , they come up with ways to kill you that are considered " outside the box " but when you have members of the community who try to kill that aspect of the game then it's nothing but another lobby shooter like the one's that you can purchase at the store .
All bland , everyone running around with the same weapons that work the same , same suits with the same properties , same vehicles with no difference , just like the combatants ... boring and lame .
I think that's what some people in this community are pushing for and what they like or would like to do and that's turn this game into a COD or BF clone .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Sergeant Sazu
Kitties of Doom
219
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:27:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:1 K/D? Damn you are one of those bottom feeders. All your opinions are now neglected due to n00b/scrub status.
Lol
[35.2m SP - Next skill: Scrambler Pistol Operation 5]
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
109
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:37:00 -
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I just added up what skill points I "mismanaged" over the past 7 months I have been playing and it only added up to a little over 68,000 skill points. Paying 20 bucks for a respec is definitely not going to benefit me. |
Jathniel
G I A N T
1316
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:41:00 -
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I did about 4 respecs as well. I generally have more than enough SP to get what I want regardless, but I rearranged a few things.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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axis alpha
Red Star. EoN.
396
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Posted - 2014.12.06 19:16:00 -
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There should me a limit of three respecs
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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axis alpha
Red Star. EoN.
396
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Posted - 2014.12.06 19:17:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:There should me a limit of three respecs But that would be just bad for business
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1507
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Posted - 2014.12.06 19:27:00 -
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I see what you did there .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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