Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.05 01:01:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:[...]Also, you only do the math for PRO PE, which isn't really the greatest comparison since I think we can all agree that PRO AV should lolwtfpwn STD V.
Just chiming in on this part, but I find this to be disingenuous. Vehicles do not seem to follow the STD/ADV/PRO paradigm, but rather follow a more Tech I/Tech II paradigm.
By that I mean to say that vehicle tiering is based more on "what does this do better than the versatile, unspecialized version?" or "what does this do that the basic, unspecialized version can't?" rather than "this does the same thing but better".
A good example would be dropships, and the previous Logi and current Assault variants. An ADS is capable of greater fire support thanks to the nose gun, and is even more capable of air superiority... though it still sucks at that anyways due to the fact that derpships handle like the equivalent of an egg-laying skywhale.
The previous (and perhaps returning) Logi DS conducted a degree of remote repair function, and also had a built-in MCRU that used no PG/CPU, making it an excellent reinforcement platform.
Another good example- though it's EVE side- is how the Tech I cruisers and Tech II cruisers interact. It's something that's fairly complex, but in a nutshell it consists of taking a moderately specialized hull and turning it into a highly specialized platform that is really only good at doing one particular thing.
It becomes a very expensive, very "one-trick pony" ship... but bugger me if it doesn't do that one thing better than 99% of the competition, and easily holds it's own against the remaining 1%.
Buff Logis | Nerf Scouts
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.07 06:16:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:@Victor Moody Stahl
I am aware of what a T1/T2 paradigm is, has that been confirmed for Dust though? I know it looks that way though I am just curious if we're going to end up getting STD/ADV/PRO ADS/DS/HAV/LLAVs/SLAVs once things are a little more hammered out balance-wise.
There's nothing that's been actually out-and-out said about whether vehicles will follow the traditional EVE-esque T1/T2 paradigm, or if they will follow the new-fangled DUST-y STD/ADV/PRO model.
However, given how dropships and LAVs were modeled prior to (most) of the variants of these vehicles being removed, I think it's more likely that we'd end up with a T1/T2 model rather than the STD/ADV/PRO one- Logi and Scout LAVs had (or were intended to have) definite drawbacks compared to the traditional LAV, while also having significant advantages in a particular task.
So to were the dropships alike; a regular derpship would be capable of CAS and RR'ing duty, but an ADS excelled at the former while the Logi DS was superb at the latter; each variant was incredibly inferior at its unintended duty, but for the intended role it excelled in comparison to both the opposing variant and the basic variety.
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