DUST Search - [IDEA] Factional Loot Crates?

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Had this idea while driving home from classes.

Okay, lets say that when the Strong Boxes, hereby referred to as LootCrates, are introduced, we create another batch as well.

These are the "Factional" Loot Crates.

These would drop as salvage from FW matches and contain gear attuned to the faction you play for. Imagine winning an FW match and seeing a Minmatar Loot Crate pop up in salvage.

I would also like to tier them. Basic, Adv, and Proto tier crates, each with their own keys purchasable in the LP store for increasing amounts of LP.

Loot crate algorithms would be based off of a few factors. Winning a match increases the chances of getting a crate, and the tier of the crate is then determined by rank.

This means that people of low tiers who win matches are more likely to get Basic or Adv tier crates, but people in high tiers would be more likely to get Adv or Proto gear. The top tier would be "Specialist" and would include a chance for specialist gear.

Some examples below. The suits and weapons would be varied, and there is a chance that you will get weapons that you can't use. To offset this, I tried to create the tiers, so that players who are new and entering FW can win some battles and try out some gear. As you get higher leveled and win more matches, there is less of a chance that you won't be able to use the gear in the crates.

Example Rates are for a player who is Rank 7 for their faction

Basic Loot Crate: <---- Common

10x Republic Assault M-1
10x Republic Assault Combat Rifle
10x Locus Grenade
2-5k LP (This is included to help offset the price of the keys in the LP store. Not modified by boosters)

Adv Loot Crate <--- Very Common

10x Republic Assault M-1/Series
10x Republic EXO-1 Mass Driver
10x Republic MH-82 HMG
5-10k LP

Proto Loot Crate <---- Uncommon
5x Republic Assault MK.0
5x Republic Freedom Mass Driver
5x Republic Core Flaylock
10-15k LP

Specialist Loot Crate <--- These are RARE. Like 1 out of every 10 drops, which don't happen too often in the first place.
10x Republic Boundless Specialist Combat Rifle
5x Republic Freedom Specialist Mass Driver
15-20k LP

MAX RANK LOOT CRATE <--- Obtained as "Prestiege", 1 per rank past 10. It's like re-doing rank 10 again.
25-100k LP
50% Chance for 1 Day FW Booster
35% Chance for 1 Week FW Booster
15% Chance for 1 Month FW Booster

These do stack. If you are VERY lucky, you could get 38 days of FW boosters.

Key Prices:
Basic: 3.5k
Adv: 7.5k
Proto: 12.5k
Specialist: 17.5k
Max Rank: 40k LP

You see, as you go up tiers, Keys require more LP to purchase, but you still have a decent chance of getting the key for free with the LP drop. Even if you don't, you're not out enough LP to make the purchase worthless (tried to balance based on the LP of items), due to the minimum LP payout for each crate. Befitting for a nice little bonus you get from FW.

For example: The specialist weapons are 210 LP each. Since the most you can lose when buying a key is 2.5k LP, I made sure that with 15x Specialist weapons, you still get 650 LP out of the crate. This is worst case scenario. Not bad right?

The only Crate that is a "Bad deal" potentially is the Max Rank crate. However, if you managed to get rank 10 again, LP shouldn't even be a problem, and the chance of missing out on 5k LP is nothing. You also get a decent chance for a free booster, and the Huge LP dump can help you fund your FW escapades for a long time afterwards.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

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Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8510	Posted - 2014.12.04 15:46:00 - [1] - Quote Had this idea while driving home from classes. Okay, lets say that when the Strong Boxes, hereby referred to as LootCrates, are introduced, we create another batch as well. These are the "Factional" Loot Crates. These would drop as salvage from FW matches and contain gear attuned to the faction you play for. Imagine winning an FW match and seeing a Minmatar Loot Crate pop up in salvage. I would also like to tier them. Basic, Adv, and Proto tier crates, each with their own keys purchasable in the LP store for increasing amounts of LP. Loot crate algorithms would be based off of a few factors. Winning a match increases the chances of getting a crate, and the tier of the crate is then determined by rank. This means that people of low tiers who win matches are more likely to get Basic or Adv tier crates, but people in high tiers would be more likely to get Adv or Proto gear. The top tier would be "Specialist" and would include a chance for specialist gear. Some examples below. The suits and weapons would be varied, and there is a chance that you will get weapons that you can't use. To offset this, I tried to create the tiers, so that players who are new and entering FW can win some battles and try out some gear. As you get higher leveled and win more matches, there is less of a chance that you won't be able to use the gear in the crates. Example Rates are for a player who is Rank 7 for their faction Basic Loot Crate: <---- Common 10x Republic Assault M-1 10x Republic Assault Combat Rifle 10x Locus Grenade 2-5k LP (This is included to help offset the price of the keys in the LP store. Not modified by boosters) Adv Loot Crate <--- Very Common 10x Republic Assault M-1/Series 10x Republic EXO-1 Mass Driver 10x Republic MH-82 HMG 5-10k LP Proto Loot Crate <---- Uncommon 5x Republic Assault MK.0 5x Republic Freedom Mass Driver 5x Republic Core Flaylock 10-15k LP Specialist Loot Crate <--- These are RARE. Like 1 out of every 10 drops, which don't happen too often in the first place. 10x Republic Boundless Specialist Combat Rifle 5x Republic Freedom Specialist Mass Driver 15-20k LP MAX RANK LOOT CRATE <--- Obtained as "Prestiege", 1 per rank past 10. It's like re-doing rank 10 again. 25-100k LP 50% Chance for 1 Day FW Booster 35% Chance for 1 Week FW Booster 15% Chance for 1 Month FW Booster These do stack. If you are VERY lucky, you could get 38 days of FW boosters. Key Prices: Basic: 3.5k Adv: 7.5k Proto: 12.5k Specialist: 17.5k Max Rank: 40k LP You see, as you go up tiers, Keys require more LP to purchase, but you still have a decent chance of getting the key for free with the LP drop. Even if you don't, you're not out enough LP to make the purchase worthless (tried to balance based on the LP of items), due to the minimum LP payout for each crate. Befitting for a nice little bonus you get from FW. For example: The specialist weapons are 210 LP each. Since the most you can lose when buying a key is 2.5k LP, I made sure that with 15x Specialist weapons, you still get 650 LP out of the crate. This is worst case scenario. Not bad right? The only Crate that is a "Bad deal" potentially is the Max Rank crate. However, if you managed to get rank 10 again, LP shouldn't even be a problem, and the chance of missing out on 5k LP is nothing. You also get a decent chance for a free booster, and the Huge LP dump can help you fund your FW escapades for a long time afterwards. Thoughts? Suggestions? Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Cat Merc Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 13535	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:06:00 - [2] - Quote Questions, why have this system anyway? Just wondering. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 1037	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:15:00 - [3] - Quote I like the concept, but I would swap the Basic and Adv drop rates. As the gear gets better, the drop rate should go down. The Factional Loyalty should only affect the drop rate, not the tier of gear dropped, imo. It would be a great bonus to playing FW, but you should only get a Loot Crate if your side wins. Losing side just gets normal salvage. These crates would be a great way to help offset ISK costs of running FW, since you can sell all of the gear you attain. What are the odds of an algorithm going in that causes the amount of Loot Crates per win to go up if your Faction controls less than X percent of districts? Give some incentive and a better reward for Factional Loyalty. Speaking of selling Loot Crates, what if they could be sold for something like 100k ISK if you don't open them? You could open it and get some sweet salvage, or you could blindly sell it if you are low on ISK. Again, helping to offset the ISK sink of FW. Jara would affect these as well. Another option would be allowing you to "trade" X amount of Loot Crates for Boosters. Being able to get Boosters through salvage is an awesome concept, but would take development money away from the game. So maybe just no Boosters at all then? Not sure on this one. Cool concept none the less. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 975	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:19:00 - [4] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I would also like to tier them. Basic, Adv, and Proto tier crates, each with their own keys purchasable in the LP store for increasing amounts of LP. ^ Love this.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2651	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:43:00 - [5] - Quote I like the LP in a box as a bonus but I care not for the garbage weapons and suits. I would hope these boxes have more special items in not regular and advanced crap. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1122	Posted - 2014.12.04 18:23:00 - [6] - Quote Siigned. I would certainly like to see at least some iteration of this. Would incentivize FW even more. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Kaeru Nayiri OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 243	Posted - 2014.12.04 18:34:00 - [7] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Had this idea while driving home from classes. Okay, lets say that when the Strong Boxes, hereby referred to as LootCrates, are introduced, we create another batch as well. These are the "Factional" Loot Crates. These would drop as salvage from FW matches and contain gear attuned to the faction you play for. Imagine winning an FW match and seeing a Minmatar Loot Crate pop up in salvage. I would also like to tier them. Basic, Adv, and Proto tier crates, each with their own keys purchasable in the LP store for increasing amounts of LP. Loot crate algorithms would be based off of a few factors. Winning a match increases the chances of getting a crate, and the tier of the crate is then determined by rank. This means that people of low tiers who win matches are more likely to get Basic or Adv tier crates, but people in high tiers would be more likely to get Adv or Proto gear. The top tier would be "Specialist" and would include a chance for specialist gear. Some examples below. The suits and weapons would be varied, and there is a chance that you will get weapons that you can't use. To offset this, I tried to create the tiers, so that players who are new and entering FW can win some battles and try out some gear. As you get higher leveled and win more matches, there is less of a chance that you won't be able to use the gear in the crates. Example Rates are for a player who is Rank 7 for their faction Basic Loot Crate: <---- Common 10x Republic Assault M-1 10x Republic Assault Combat Rifle 10x Locus Grenade 2-5k LP (This is included to help offset the price of the keys in the LP store. Not modified by boosters) Adv Loot Crate <--- Very Common 10x Republic Assault M-1/Series 10x Republic EXO-1 Mass Driver 10x Republic MH-82 HMG 5-10k LP Proto Loot Crate <---- Uncommon 5x Republic Assault MK.0 5x Republic Freedom Mass Driver 5x Republic Core Flaylock 10-15k LP Specialist Loot Crate <--- These are RARE. Like 1 out of every 10 drops, which don't happen too often in the first place. 10x Republic Boundless Specialist Combat Rifle 5x Republic Freedom Specialist Mass Driver 15-20k LP MAX RANK LOOT CRATE <--- Obtained as "Prestiege", 1 per rank past 10. It's like re-doing rank 10 again. 25-100k LP 50% Chance for 1 Day FW Booster 35% Chance for 1 Week FW Booster 15% Chance for 1 Month FW Booster These do stack. If you are VERY lucky, you could get 38 days of FW boosters. Key Prices: Basic: 3.5k Adv: 7.5k Proto: 12.5k Specialist: 17.5k Max Rank: 40k LP You see, as you go up tiers, Keys require more LP to purchase, but you still have a decent chance of getting the key for free with the LP drop. Even if you don't, you're not out enough LP to make the purchase worthless (tried to balance based on the LP of items), due to the minimum LP payout for each crate. Befitting for a nice little bonus you get from FW. For example: The specialist weapons are 210 LP each. Since the most you can lose when buying a key is 2.5k LP, I made sure that with 15x Specialist weapons, you still get 650 LP out of the crate. This is worst case scenario. Not bad right? The only Crate that is a "Bad deal" potentially is the Max Rank crate. However, if you managed to get rank 10 again, LP shouldn't even be a problem, and the chance of missing out on 5k LP is nothing. You also get a decent chance for a free booster, and the Huge LP dump can help you fund your FW escapades for a long time afterwards. Thoughts? Suggestions? Factional Crates that can be opened with Faction Keys bought with LP. Pure genius. But, before we get this, please flesh out the missing items from the LP stores !
Regnier Feros G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 122	Posted - 2014.12.04 21:56:00 - [8] - Quote +1 Although I think the basic should be very common, & the advance should be common. I like pie do you like pie because i hate pie & I like muffins.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1294	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:55:00 - [9] - Quote id rather just have a salvager and be able to loot er... 'wreckage' if you catch my drift. (dead clones) thats how eve does it. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.


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