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Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5486	Posted - 2014.12.04 14:32:00 - [1] - Quote GET ON IT! https://trello.com/b/8PvubQrN/dust-514-community-crowdsourcing Watching this fill up with neat ideas is really ******* cool. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 156	Posted - 2014.12.04 14:41:00 - [2] - Quote 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5318	Posted - 2014.12.04 14:43:00 - [3] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. My advice to you, playa...
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5487	Posted - 2014.12.04 14:46:00 - [4] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. There's no "selection" involved. Everyone who requests is added. Even people who are banned from these Forums are allowed in. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 156	Posted - 2014.12.04 14:53:00 - [5] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. 1. They already develop and implement patches without anyones input aka latest ADS nerf 2. What makes you think this will be any different? 3. If i get added can i comment on stupid ideas? But if i can only comment then its a lost cause, might aswell do it in F&R
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2177	Posted - 2014.12.04 14:57:00 - [6] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. I'm not registering for Rattati's secret p0rn hub no matter how many cocq shots he sends me
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1726	Posted - 2014.12.04 15:00:00 - [7] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. Crowdsourcing should be done ON SITE. Having the roadmap visible offsite is fine, but the discussion should be done here. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5489	Posted - 2014.12.04 15:02:00 - [8] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. Crowdsourcing should be done ON SITE. Having the roadmap visible offsite is fine, but the discussion should be done here. Ideas posted on Trello don't get buried in dissent from "special interests". Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5320	Posted - 2014.12.04 15:02:00 - [9] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. They already develop and implement patches without anyones input aka latest ADS nerf 2. What makes you think this will be any different? 3. If i get added can i comment on stupid ideas? But if i can only comment then its a lost cause, might aswell do it in F&R This is fun 1. CCP pulled data on the ADS and it was insane. Judge R. himself said he was averaging 50 K/D in one. That means the ADS needed a nerf. Some pilots are bitter about losing their crutch, but the gravy train's wheels eventually fall off. Adapt or die 2. The **** are you going on about? Rattati has several feedback threads open right now. He pulled the proposed changes to the cloak and ewar modules due to forum feedback. 3. You post ideas. Comments on said ideas are not necessary. If an idea adds nothing to the game, or is broken, then CCP won't use it. P.S. - We have a F&I (Features and Ideas) board, but not F&R. Is this a new board? My advice to you, playa...
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 525	Posted - 2014.12.04 15:35:00 - [10] - Quote The rules on the Trello board specifically state that it should not be treated as a forum. You can add a comment or a link to a DUST forum thread to explain your idea more, but that's about it. So the DUST threads will still be important.

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1727	Posted - 2014.12.04 15:54:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. Crowdsourcing should be done ON SITE. Having the roadmap visible offsite is fine, but the discussion should be done here. Ideas posted on Trello don't get buried in dissent from "special interests". They also aren't subject to nearly as much scrutiny as to what might be wrong with them and why. Having a 'secret' place to do what sounds like it could easily lead to people pushing agenda's is a **ing terrible thing and I shouldn't need to tell you why. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5490	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:05:00 - [12] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. Crowdsourcing should be done ON SITE. Having the roadmap visible offsite is fine, but the discussion should be done here. Ideas posted on Trello don't get buried in dissent from "special interests". They also aren't subject to nearly as much scrutiny as to what might be wrong with them and why. Having a 'secret' place to do what sounds like it could easily lead to people pushing agenda's is a ****ing terrible thing and I shouldn't need to tell you why. And now the Voting function has been enabled, so you can Vote for the things you want. This is a far more civilized means of presenting ideas. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1728	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:11:00 - [13] - Quote ^Spin it however you want, it's hiding information that should be publicly discussed here on the forums. Rather than in something that people ARE NOT AWARE OF. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
ReGnYuM Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 3352	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:19:00 - [14] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. He is right tho... IRC was a selective group and they got way too much Dev attention. Look how that turned out.
Supernus Gigas The Cooked Goose Coalition 1006	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:23:00 - [15] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: ^Spin it however you want, it's hiding information that should be publicly discussed here on the forums. Rather than in something that people ARE NOT AWARE OF. It's so secret, that it isn't mentioned right in the sticky. So secret that there's not even a link to it in the official Dev Blog. So secret that you can't even make threads about it. Hmm... Something isn't quite right here... Oh, yeah, it's not a freaking secret. If people can't even make the effort to at least read the sticky or skim the Dev Blog to find out about the Trello page, well ** 'em, those aren't the kinds of people that should be giving input anyways. FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!**
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1728	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:27:00 - [16] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: ^Spin it however you want, it's hiding information that should be publicly discussed here on the forums. Rather than in something that people ARE NOT AWARE OF. It's so secret, that it isn't mentioned right in the sticky. So secret that there's not even a link to it in the official Dev Blog. So secret that you can't even make threads about it. Hmm... Something isn't quite right here... Oh, yeah, it's not a freaking secret. If people can't even make the effort to at least read the sticky or skim the Dev Blog to find out about the Trello page, well ** 'em, those aren't the kinds of people that should be giving input anyways. "If people can't be bothered to exhaustively pour through the forums to find links to non-ccp websites their input shouldn't be considered. We don't want them scrutinizing how we push our agendas". No, development discussion should be done in stickied threads on feedback and ideas, It is entirely too easy to miss the links to the off-site discussion. We've had examples of this being abused before with the IRC. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5490	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:50:00 - [17] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Supernus Gigas wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: ^Spin it however you want, it's hiding information that should be publicly discussed here on the forums. Rather than in something that people ARE NOT AWARE OF. It's so secret, that it isn't mentioned right in the sticky. So secret that there's not even a link to it in the official Dev Blog. So secret that you can't even make threads about it. Hmm... Something isn't quite right here... Oh, yeah, it's not a freaking secret. If people can't even make the effort to at least read the sticky or skim the Dev Blog to find out about the Trello page, well **** 'em, those aren't the kinds of people that should be giving input anyways. "If people can't be bothered to exhaustively pour through the forums to find links to non-ccp websites their input shouldn't be considered. We don't want them scrutinizing how we push our agendas". No, development discussion should be done in stickied threads on feedback and ideas, It is entirely too easy to miss the links to the off-site discussion. We've had examples of this being abused before with the IRC. A whole year later and people are still prattling on about how people in the IRC channel had some kind of magical influence over CCP. As someone who was in it quite a lot and was always met with "make a thread and we'll look at it", I find these THE ILLUMINATI IS REAL threads highly amusing. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17969	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:52:00 - [18] - Quote IR ITANIMULLI member! CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5490	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:53:00 - [19] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. They already develop and implement patches without anyones input aka latest ADS nerf 2. What makes you think this will be any different? 3. If i get added can i comment on stupid ideas? But if i can only comment then its a lost cause, might aswell do it in F&R This is fun 1. CCP pulled data on the ADS and it was insane. Judge R. himself said he was averaging 50 K/D in one. That means the ADS needed a nerf. Some pilots are bitter about losing their crutch, but the gravy train's wheels eventually fall off. Adapt or die 2. The **** are you going on about? Rattati has several feedback threads open right now. He pulled the proposed changes to the cloak and ewar modules due to forum feedback. 3. You post ideas. Comments on said ideas are not necessary. If an idea adds nothing to the game, or is broken, then CCP won't use it. P.S. - We have a F&I (Features and Ideas) board, but not F&R. Is this a new board? Okay, we need to acknowledge that numbers aren't everything. Considering Judge almost always flies with two people who are maxed out in HAVs rolling around in DEATHTANKS on the ground, maintaining a 50 KDR isn't that difficult. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1025	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:04:00 - [20] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Supernus Gigas wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: ^Spin it however you want, it's hiding information that should be publicly discussed here on the forums. Rather than in something that people ARE NOT AWARE OF. It's so secret, that it isn't mentioned right in the sticky. So secret that there's not even a link to it in the official Dev Blog. So secret that you can't even make threads about it. Hmm... Something isn't quite right here... Oh, yeah, it's not a freaking secret. If people can't even make the effort to at least read the sticky or skim the Dev Blog to find out about the Trello page, well **** 'em, those aren't the kinds of people that should be giving input anyways. "If people can't be bothered to exhaustively pour through the forums to find links to non-ccp websites their input shouldn't be considered. We don't want them scrutinizing how we push our agendas". No, development discussion should be done in stickied threads on feedback and ideas, It is entirely too easy to miss the links to the off-site discussion. We've had examples of this being abused before with the IRC. You're approaching this wrong, Mina. CCP are people. They will solicit conversation in whatever way they feel is the most productive to improve their game. It would be concerning if CCP were endorsing a method of communication that is hosted or moderated by a non-neutral third party. That was potentially the case in IRC for awhile, actually, though Grid and Nova ended up working fine. In the case of Trello, just like here on the forums, CCP are in control of the content. No player group can filter what CCP sees in terms of feedback. If you're arguing that CCP haven't advertised the Trello board as expansively as makes sense, that's could potentially be reasonable. Being angry that CCP have decided to solicit feedback in a different way while they still control what stays and what goes, that's just impractical. Being angry that people who have more time to post content will probably have more influence over policy, that's just a bad interpretation of reality. Quantity and quality are both important factors in the case of policy influence. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony

CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2653	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:26:00 - [21] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ***** sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. I'm not registering for Rattati's secret p0rn hub no matter how many cocq shots he sends me You know you would get turned on by Rattati + . lmao the word pornography is censored on these forums? Oh no, just the abbreviation it would seem.. .. .. odd. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big fk-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2179	Posted - 2014.12.04 19:07:00 - [22] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Not really 2. Bad players with bad ideas are adding crap to the board 3. It should have stayed as a roadmap while ideas get thrashed out in F&R instead of a selective board which if you dont get added you cant do anything Well aren't you a ray of ******* sunshine. The roadmap still exists. It is a separate board altogether. Allowing CCP to crowdsource ideas is a step in the right direction... would you rather them just develop features without our input? At least this way they know what is on our minds. Also, any player can request to be added to the board. I got access in less than 24 hours after I sent my email. Crowdsourcing should be done ON SITE. Having the roadmap visible offsite is fine, but the discussion should be done here. Ideas posted on Trello don't get buried in dissent from "special interests". So feedback is bad now?
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2842	Posted - 2014.12.04 19:12:00 - [23] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: ^Spin it however you want, it's hiding information that should be publicly discussed here on the forums. Rather than in something that people ARE NOT AWARE OF. Yeah it's this that irritates the hell out of me, consolidation is key not splitting crap into multiple websites one of which is poorly advertised... "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5329	Posted - 2014.12.04 19:13:00 - [24] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Yeah it's this that irritates the hell out of me, consolidation is key not splitting crap into multiple websites one of which is poorly advertised... How is it poorly advertised? The link to it is in the devblog. My advice to you, playa...
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2842	Posted - 2014.12.04 19:24:00 - [25] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Yeah it's this that irritates the hell out of me, consolidation is key not splitting crap into multiple websites one of which is poorly advertised... How is it poorly advertised? The link to it is in the devblog. Needs to be clearly visible in the e-mail and clearly stickied, it's own sticky, in the feedback forum. shrugs Don't mind me, I just think it could use more of a spotlight if it's going to be a different site. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15459	Posted - 2014.12.04 19:42:00 - [26] - Quote How do you add Cards. So many vehicle related ones to add. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Immortal John Ripper 26250	Posted - 2014.12.04 20:24:00 - [27] - Quote I love this. Now I don't feel like we need a cpm anymore since we have a platform to give our ideas efficiently to the devs on this game. I am the greatest gamer of all time. Like if you agree.
General John Ripper 26268	Posted - 2014.12.04 20:24:00 - [28] - Quote I love this. Now I don't feel like we need a cpm anymore since we have a platform to give our ideas efficiently to the devs on this game. "He's a god, he's a man, he's a ghost, he's a guru."
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 157	Posted - 2014.12.04 21:51:00 - [29] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: I love this. Now I don't feel like we need a cpm anymore since we have a platform to give our ideas efficiently to the devs on this game. Lol, you already have the forums. I agree with some people. It should be part of this site not a website most people isn't going to use or going to see. Besides CCP use to post about commonly requested ideas ever so often months ago. This might just get plastered with dumb ideas and/or a lot of ideas won't get voted on in the first place. Good try in theory, but it should be on this site because it will have more exposure.
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 162	Posted - 2014.12.05 14:03:00 - [30] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. They already develop and implement patches without anyones input aka latest ADS nerf 2. What makes you think this will be any different? 3. If i get added can i comment on stupid ideas? But if i can only comment then its a lost cause, might aswell do it in F&R This is fun 1. CCP pulled data on the ADS and it was insane. Judge R. himself said he was averaging 50 K/D in one. That means the ADS needed a nerf. Some pilots are bitter about losing their crutch, but the gravy train's wheels eventually fall off. Adapt or die 2. The **** are you going on about? Rattati has several feedback threads open right now. He pulled the proposed changes to the cloak and ewar modules due to forum feedback. 3. You post ideas. Comments on said ideas are not necessary. If an idea adds nothing to the game, or is broken, then CCP won't use it. P.S. - We have a F&I (Features and Ideas) board, but not F&R. Is this a new board? 1. Pubs and PC are chalk and cheese, just because someone does well in pubs doesnt mean its broken when the enemy will not bring out AV or vehicles to counter act the problem at hand 2. Adapt or die i can say the same thing to those who use AV but of course that doesnt matter because you generally cry so now swarms always catch up and the AB is generally useless now 3. He had feedback threads for the ADS then decided to ignore everything in the thread and did his own thing 3. Posting ideas without the ability to scrutinize it is poor form 4. Whoever mentioned IRC is correct, the owners/mods banned anywho who basically didnt agree with them or CCP so it was giving biased info to CCP when in fact the forum should be the main place to discuss anything about the game



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