I think you could incorporate the Titanfall model, where vehicles and AV are both readily available on the battlefield. Doing that will increase the immersion of this game by a factor of 42.

Edit: To do this merge dropsuit and vehicle trees. Why should there be different trees?

1. Boring

2. Go and play BF instead

For those with a the lack of will to go through the entire thing, its a 39 page document that reads more like a game design thesis or an interns job proposal.

Just to get this out of the way a Soma is a Militia tank and is not unlocked with HAV operation, Madrugar is the one your looking for. The same with the dropships, Vipers are militia and Myron are standard. Balochs are milita LAVs (and were called baloch impact when evry player had unlimited free LAVs) and the Methana is the Standard gallente LAV.

It doesn't matter when a random forum poster or blueberry doesn't know whats what, but when a CPM, especially when one self appoints himself as the 'voice of vehicle operators' doesn't the Viper is a miltia dropship, ugh, it doesn't bode well.

But seeing as you put the time to types i put in the time to read it. Or more less glanced through, too much pork between the charts. 39 pages on one person's opinions on moslty just modifying the various vehicle skill trees, jesus. And the skill tree part isnt finished yet, its to be continued. It just cuts out at page 36, the remaining three pages are headlines for other chatpers and topics.

Pretty much the bottom of the pile of pilot / tanker priorities at the moment. Oddly It all devolves into the old skill tree before 1.7 dropped. Mostly because reasons. ''I like this way'' or ''i prefer it that way''

How long will this document be in its final form? I have no idea.

So far, its much ado about nothing.

Unless You plan on buffing HAVSs your just looking to kill the vehicle game, as t is now I have 10 mill sp in vehicles, my best gunlogi can be taken down by a chump in a jeep or by 2 guys with adv swarms.

You barly play dust jackass you have just over 7000 kills and I doubt you have ever used a vehicle extensively don't try and fix what you don't understand.

Well, I like the spreadsheet, but I'd like to point out a few things that vehicles should have.

I'll start off with tanks, be forewarned, this will be long.

Tanks: As it stands, tanks are a pure AV role. Which in all honesty, should not be the case. In PC, tanks are of little use and an ADS could easily do what they do in the way of AI. That being said, I believe that reintroducing enforcer and Marauder tanks would be a good way to balance this out.

Enforcers

My thought is this, enforcer tanks are the AI variants of tanks. They would have less EHP, a little more speed, and benefits to large turrets to help them assault infantry.

Example: blasters would get lowered dispersion on the Vayu, allowing them to fight infantry more effectively, and make them viable on open maps. Missiles would get more splash so they can catch infantry on them.

As it stands currently, tanks don't have much else to do but fight themselves, shoot ADS and become giant roadblocks. Introduction of an AI tank will add more of a robust vehicle world.

Marauders

My next thought is that marauders should be the AV tanks. They'd have more HP, maybe a little less speed, and benefits that would make them AV titans.

Blasters would get something like increased ROF and lowered heat build up, helping them to tear into a shields hull for faster and longer.

Missiles would get a damage buff and increased total magazine size.

Rails would get reduced heat build up and better cooldown.

That's just my two cents on the issue. Tanks need to have an AI version, along with an AV version.

Now on to my favoritest thing evar!! Dropships.

We all want our Logi Derp back. But there has been some debate as to what their benefit should be.

I read somewhere that it should be a lowered spawn time on a mobile CRU. I personally like this idea for both Derps, but the problem with that is there is no real benefit to run one or the other. There should be another benefit along with the CRU spawn time.

Question for fellow pilots, we all know that adding resistances per level is a bad idea. Would the racial regen being buffed be better?

Example: Shield boosters on LDS would recharge 25% more than on an ADS or normal DS.

Another thing that should be looked into is CPU and PG outfits.

Armor has always had trouble fitting things CPU wise, I think a buff on armor vehicle CPU has been a long time coming.

I'd also like to recommend reducing the Python CPU by 7-9%. The reason I say this is because as far as ADS goes, I don't have to skill too heavy into shield fitting OP. This CPU nerf would make it to where getting the extra levels well worth it.

I'd also recommend giving a python PG buff.
WARNING: do not buff any more than 59, there will be a definite OP ADS fit. and also none less than 34, any less will be useless.

Anyway, that's my ideas. Hope it helps.

Level II of LAV is technically useful, as it unlocks the SAGA II

Its late and I'm tired but I want to throw in a "don't forget about MTACs" before I crash. Will try to post something more coherent and useful tomorrow

Dude, CCP has redone vehicles a number of times because the people on here complain about them. It's about time that people realize that the problem doesn't lie with the vehicles. It lies with the people throwing non-AV grenades at them, firing mass drivers, rifles, MLT swarms, sniping them that complain. Those that do have AV, go at it solo. Half the time they're not that far away, out in the open. I killed some guy 4 or 5 times earlier that was trying to swarm my tank; how and why? Because he was out in the open, obviously terrible positioning. That's one of many examples.

Seriously, you and CCP need to stop considering infantry's position first, second and third with us pilots being a distant last. With Rattati at the helm with this, he needs to listen to us first. We're not going to be asking for MLT tanks with 10,000 base HP, upgradable to 20,000. We want more mods, one more slot in our HP tank, and our CPU/PG/armor and shield skills back. The bugged rail needed to be fixed a long time ago. Missiles are in a really good place, but I'm sick of firing 2, 4 or 5 missiles instead of all 12 when I hold my R1 down.

I'm not being a jerk, I'm just saying what's on my mind, as well as saying what ought to be done. Pilots first, then compromise with infantry. Again, infantry has been the sole decision maker on vehicles for too long. It's time for you guys and CCP to engage us, the pilots, and ask us what we want, and then we compromise.

Did you intentionally leave "Spkr4theDead's extended feedback" blank? Once you collate everything, I could write quite a lot about it. It would probably take up 5 whole replies. As it is, the first part took two whole replies, I imagine you're going to write a lot more.