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STABBEY
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.03 23:48:00 -
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A. Make it so players only get 1 or 2 and cut there damage WAY down against infantry. REMEMBER CONTACT GRENADES WHEN PC FIRST STARTED?! Yea thats basically what RE's are now. The drastic measures CCP took with said grenades needs to happen with these cheap arse RE's. AND Reduce the explosion radius ALOT.
B. Remove them totally or make it so they ONLY damage Vehicles and installations.
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XxGhazbaranxX
B.A.L.A.M.O.R.Y. G.L.O.R.Y.
1914
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Posted - 2014.12.04 00:00:00 -
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The only problem the have is that they can be thrown like frisbees. Before the change in renote explosive they litteraly fell in front of you not fly 10m away.
There is also a bug the they slide farther than they were originally fell
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Sir Snugglz
Red Star.
EoN.
929
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Posted - 2014.12.04 00:17:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:
There is also a bug the they slide farther than they were originally fell
Science?
-Pro AFKing LVL 5
-Luck is just one of my skills
-Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
953
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Posted - 2014.12.04 01:21:00 -
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Removing Heavies/Sentinels would do more to improve balance and gameplay than removing REs. Even so, I wouldn't ever advocate removing Heavies/Sentinels from Dust. |
Hector Carson
THE DESOLATION OF EDEN
98
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Posted - 2014.12.04 01:29:00 -
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It's never gonna happen
My Corp fights for whoever has money, Primarily PC battles
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DDx77
The Exemplars
RISE of LEGION
48
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Posted - 2014.12.04 01:34:00 -
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Why exactly?
Please list the dropsuit you die in most by RE's so people can give constructive advice please |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6334
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Posted - 2014.12.04 01:35:00 -
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You might find it more helpful to identify what exactly the problem is and directly try to fix that than recommend removal of the items as a whole.
REs are not the significant problem some people make them out to be.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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STABBEY
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
525
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Posted - 2014.12.04 02:39:00 -
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You gents obviously werent around when PC started.
They can and will remove items from the game.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15431
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Posted - 2014.12.04 02:41:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:You might find it more helpful to identify what exactly the problem is and directly try to fix that than recommend removal of the items as a whole.
REs are not the significant problem some people make them out to be.
Depends who those people are.
If I conjure the words Jihad Jeep....... those are a real problem.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2284
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Posted - 2014.12.04 02:51:00 -
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**squeezes sponge full of tears into chalice made of REs**
Still thirsty over here....
Jihad Jeeps are only a problem if you're a tanker.
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15433
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Posted - 2014.12.04 02:58:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:**squeezes sponge full of tears into chalice made of REs**
Still thirsty over here....
Jihad Jeeps are only a problem if you're a tanker.
They are just a bad game mechanic. I could understand it if two players had to jihad into someone....but one dude deals 10264.8 explosive damage or more.
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6335
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Posted - 2014.12.04 03:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:One Eyed King wrote:You might find it more helpful to identify what exactly the problem is and directly try to fix that than recommend removal of the items as a whole.
REs are not the significant problem some people make them out to be. Depends who those people are. If I conjure the words Jihad Jeep....... those are a real problem.
Do they still do those?
I can't even remember the last time I saw one.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15435
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Posted - 2014.12.04 03:13:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:True Adamance wrote:One Eyed King wrote:You might find it more helpful to identify what exactly the problem is and directly try to fix that than recommend removal of the items as a whole.
REs are not the significant problem some people make them out to be. Depends who those people are. If I conjure the words Jihad Jeep....... those are a real problem. Do they still do those? I can't even remember the last time I saw one.
ALL THE TIME. Since AV cannot stop me they have no choice.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
Public.Disorder.
674
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Posted - 2014.12.04 03:25:00 -
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If I shoot a volley of swarms at a tank and they only takes off 1/6 of it's shields, I go straight to the jihad jeep. One OP turn deserves another.
As for REs vs infantry, quit whining. Maybe if Locus grenades didn't SUCK and take 10 FREAKIN' MINUTES to explode, people would use those instead. And no, cooking doesn't work when you're already being shot at. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15440
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Posted - 2014.12.04 03:29:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:If I shoot a volley of swarms at a tank and they only takes off 1/6 of it's shields, I go straight to the jihad jeep. One OP turn deserves another.
As for REs vs infantry, quit whining. Maybe if Locus grenades didn't SUCK and take 10 FREAKIN' MINUTES to explode, people would use those instead. And no, cooking doesn't work when you're already being shot at.
Yeah I have to admit there are issues with the shield HAV but you should be able to on an optimised suit and weapon be able to chew through roughly 1800 Shield per volley.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
Public.Disorder.
674
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Posted - 2014.12.04 04:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:TheEnd762 wrote:If I shoot a volley of swarms at a tank and they only takes off 1/6 of it's shields, I go straight to the jihad jeep. One OP turn deserves another.
As for REs vs infantry, quit whining. Maybe if Locus grenades didn't SUCK and take 10 FREAKIN' MINUTES to explode, people would use those instead. And no, cooking doesn't work when you're already being shot at. Yeah I have to admit there are issues with the shield HAV but you should be able to on an optimised suit and weapon be able to chew through roughly 1800 Shield per volley.
1-2 volleys before the tank runs to the other side of the map. |
tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
193
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Posted - 2014.12.04 05:21:00 -
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*drinks noob tears flavoured quafe*
ahh, this is refreshing....
"The feud shall not be forgotten. But those who forget, never witnessed the true horror."
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3506
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Posted - 2014.12.04 05:47:00 -
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remote explosives are out of control. Might be better if scouts or precision enhanced suits can pick them up on a passive scan like we do with uplinks. But then again, that would defeat the purpose. I really don't have a good idea on how to reduce the spam. Just have a note that people are spamming them and using them as their primary means to kill.
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Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
1194
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Posted - 2014.12.04 11:53:00 -
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lol, no
REs are fine.
If you are unsure if a location is rigged with REs, use a flux.
If you see them, destroy them.
If you see someone dropping them, move away.
If you hear someone dropping an equipment behind you, run.
If you charge after a weakened target expecting an easy kill and then get killed by an RE, it's your own damn fault.
The only thing about them that really has to get fixed is that you can place them at locations where you can't see them and sometimes even can't destroy them. Like when you drop them right above the console on a Nullcannon and they slide away to some mystical place.
You have been scanned
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5628
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Posted - 2014.12.04 13:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:One Eyed King wrote:True Adamance wrote:One Eyed King wrote:You might find it more helpful to identify what exactly the problem is and directly try to fix that than recommend removal of the items as a whole.
REs are not the significant problem some people make them out to be. Depends who those people are. If I conjure the words Jihad Jeep....... those are a real problem. Do they still do those? I can't even remember the last time I saw one. ALL THE TIME. Since AV cannot stop me they have no choice.
If you can say this unironically, it is indicative that there is a balance problem inherent to AV/V that means either your vehicle needs to be toned down or certain AV options need to be toned up.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2285
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Posted - 2014.12.04 13:13:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:lol, no
REs are fine.
If you are unsure if a location is rigged with REs, use a flux.
If you see them, destroy them.
If you see someone dropping them, move away.
If you hear someone dropping an equipment behind you, run.
If you charge after a weakened target expecting an easy kill and then get killed by an RE, it's your own damn fault.
The only thing about them that really has to get fixed is that you can place them at locations where you can't see them and sometimes even can't destroy them. Like when you drop them right above the console on a Nullcannon and they slide away to some mystical place.
Ok, I've said this before in other RE cry threads where it has been brought up.
THEY DON'T SLIDE AWAY TO SOME MYSTICAL PLACE ANYMORE!!!!
IT NEVER WAS A MYSTICAL PLACE BEFORE EITHER, IT WAS RIGHT ABOVE THE CONSOLE AND IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO LOOK UP, GUESS WHAT?!?! YOU SAW THEM!!!
I wish that it was still possible to at least deliberately place them there without being above the objective yourself, you know, to foster more situational awareness.
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2285
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Posted - 2014.12.04 13:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:**squeezes sponge full of tears into chalice made of REs**
Still thirsty over here....
Jihad Jeeps are only a problem if you're a tanker. They are just a bad game mechanic. I could understand it if two players had to jihad into someone....but one dude deals 10264.8 explosive damage or more.
In order to deal that 10264.8 DPS (yes, I meant DPS), they need to sacrifice either themselves or a teammate (if they're doing it right they'll have one guy looking at the map guiding the driver in on the HAVs flank  , not like I've ever done this....  )
I respectfully disagree that they are "just a bad mechanic" they developed as emergent gameplay, a nearly sandbox solution to the problem that was OP HAVs in an age of UP AV.
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Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
1202
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Posted - 2014.12.04 14:04:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:THEY DON'T SLIDE AWAY TO SOME MYSTICAL PLACE ANYMORE!!!!
IT NEVER WAS A MYSTICAL PLACE BEFORE EITHER, IT WAS RIGHT ABOVE THE CONSOLE AND IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO LOOK UP, GUESS WHAT?!?! YOU SAW THEM!!!
This is a flat out lie.
If you place REs right above the console on Nullcannons they slide downwards and you can't see them anymore.
I tried this out just yesterday. It still works.
You have been scanned
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2285
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Posted - 2014.12.04 14:08:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:THEY DON'T SLIDE AWAY TO SOME MYSTICAL PLACE ANYMORE!!!!
IT NEVER WAS A MYSTICAL PLACE BEFORE EITHER, IT WAS RIGHT ABOVE THE CONSOLE AND IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO LOOK UP, GUESS WHAT?!?! YOU SAW THEM!!! This is a flat out lie. If you place REs right above the console on Nullcannons they slide downwards and you can't see them anymore. I tried this out just yesterday. It still works.
Well, this is news to me since I always aim the RE for directly on the console on just below it. I'll try it myself when I get on later.
Also, my statement isn't a flat out lie from my experience, they do not slide up the null cannon anymore and when they did, if you looked up, you saw them.
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Jacques Cayton II
Titans of Phoenix
1199
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Posted - 2014.12.04 17:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:**squeezes sponge full of tears into chalice made of REs**
Still thirsty over here....
Jihad Jeeps are only a problem if you're a tanker. They are just a bad game mechanic. I could understand it if two players had to jihad into someone....but one dude deals 10264.8 explosive damage or more.
Bahahahahaha i love jihad jeeps so fun and fyi only tankers hate jihad jeeps
We fight for the future of the State not our
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Jacques Cayton II
Titans of Phoenix
1199
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Posted - 2014.12.04 17:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:One Eyed King wrote:True Adamance wrote:One Eyed King wrote:You might find it more helpful to identify what exactly the problem is and directly try to fix that than recommend removal of the items as a whole.
REs are not the significant problem some people make them out to be. Depends who those people are. If I conjure the words Jihad Jeep....... those are a real problem. Do they still do those? I can't even remember the last time I saw one. ALL THE TIME. Since AV cannot stop me they have no choice.
Hmm womder why
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
879
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Posted - 2014.12.04 21:10:00 -
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each time I play this game I only end up remembering why I stoped. having said that. scouts are the ones chucking them everywhere.
and just yesterday during a dom I thought id but some std res on my mlt fit. got his ass real good. then they started spamming obs on us. but they can be thrown quite a distance down some stairs into an objective area.
there needs to be better ways to break defenses like that though its just a stupid never ending onslaught.
if only we could pilot the mcc.
id end the matches real quick.
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Michael Epic
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
348
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Posted - 2014.12.04 21:17:00 -
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I don't understand why all of you **** and moan about remote explosives.
One of you even said some QQ about people who use them as a way to primarily kill. Why not? Its a weapon. Assault Rifle to primary kill, tank to primary kill, ect
Why would you NOT use a weapon to primarily kill with? What else would you do with it? Tickle feetsies?
I rock a logi gk.0 with an AR and a suite of RE's and 18,000+ kills later I'm still remote exploding you all long before it was "cool" and I'll still be doing it long after the fad is "over"
Remote explosives is the reason I play this game...its hilarious. Plus, with 3-4 logi's on a pack of 7 heavies....you need RE's. Otherwise what else could you do? |
Stupid F0ckin Scrub
Eternal Beings
Dark Taboo
2
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Posted - 2014.12.04 21:25:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:lol, no
REs are fine.
If you are unsure if a location is rigged with REs, use a flux.
If you see them, destroy them.
If you see someone dropping them, move away.
If you hear someone dropping an equipment behind you, run.
If you charge after a weakened target expecting an easy kill and then get killed by an RE, it's your own damn fault.
The only thing about them that really has to get fixed is that you can place them at locations where you can't see them and sometimes even can't destroy them. Like when you drop them right above the console on a Nullcannon and they slide away to some mystical place.
I've seen this at least 3 times now and wholeheartedly agree.
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