DUST Search - 5 more weapons would be nice

MINA Longstrike wrote:

DEATH THE KlD wrote:

What is with the Amarr and no swords? Seriously it'd be laser technology they're not barbaric or in the ice age like minmatar. But a laser lance would be sick.

Y'know, the whole "HURRR AMARR = ALL LASERS ALL THE TIME" is a really idiotic misconception. Amarr prize efficiency and reliability. Lasers don't use 'ammunition' (aside from crystals which degrade slowly and are easy to carry replacements of), laser batteries can theoretically be recharged off of dropsuit power packs though it would take quite some time. Heat is a limiting factor but that just means you have to be more efficient with how you place your shots.

A 'laser sword' is beyond idiotic, and when people talk about a 'laser lance' they're not talking about a 'lance' in the sense of a mounted knight, but rather something like a 'lance battery' due to the word 'lance' also sometimes being used for projectiles like javelins or atlatl arrows. It's also quite frequently used in other sci-fi and fiction to denote large gun emplacements that fire lasers such as http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lance or http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs26/f/2008/098/3/b/Lance_Turret_by_The_First_Magelord.png

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AMAR XEO T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 5	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:31:00 - [1] - Quote 3 melee weapons: AMARR Axe Gallente Sword Minmatar Hammer 2 weapons: AMARR smg Gallente smg the caldari already has nova knifes,magsec smg and the minmatar smg Remember what you fear most and then take on that fear and overcome it. Play all kill all but remember we play to kill.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19786	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:43:00 - [2] - Quote If any weapons are needed, they would be the Amarr heavy weapon and the Gallente heavy weapon. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
Ku Shala The Generals 1034	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:46:00 - [3] - Quote what about av, heavy, snipers, shotguns..... *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist *Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
AMAR XEO T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 5	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:55:00 - [4] - Quote the heavy weapons i forgot to include thanks Remember what you fear most and then take on that fear and overcome it. Play all kill all but remember we play to kill.
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair 153	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:57:00 - [5] - Quote Maybe some nunchucks for the minja
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 51	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:58:00 - [6] - Quote Amarr would be a laser sword, light saber from Star Wars
AMAR XEO T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 5	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:00:00 - [7] - Quote no Remember what you fear most and then take on that fear and overcome it. Play all kill all but remember we play to kill.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15332	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:06:00 - [8] - Quote AMAR XEO wrote: 3 melee weapons: AMARR Axe Gallente Sword Minmatar Hammer 2 weapons: AMARR smg Gallente smg 2 heavy weapons: AMARR heavy weapon Gallente heavy weapon the caldari already has nova knifes,magsec smg and the minmatar smg Axe? Are you crazy......what sort of Crusading Empire uses filthy barbaric axes. This is the way of the future! Righteous Fury combined with just a pinch of Menace. or the Elegant Solution to the problem of Heathens I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1291	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:08:00 - [9] - Quote no. amarr would have a mace. its more of a holy paladin thing to not use a blade. clerics often have blunt weapons. so a golden mace for amarr. or at the very least a large golden claymore. (2h sword) gallente are unorthodox in design and often have organic shapes so somekind of weird sledgehammer with a concave handle and a plasma vent on it like a micro shotgun blast when you hit someones face. minmatar would have the bladed weapon. like a glaive or waraxe. you could have some sort of mining pick also if they keep the retrofitting theme of turning civ equipment into weapons. or a mini chainsaw type deal. caldari would get the nova sword since it works into their japanese origin. samurais and what not. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1261	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:10:00 - [10] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: If any weapons are needed, they would be the Amarr heavy weapon and the Gallente heavy weapon. And the Amarr Grenade, whatever that may be. Still hoping for a Flashbang on steroids. Burns so bright it does damage! Please, make my Opus pretty...

AMAR XEO T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 5	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:12:00 - [11] - Quote look at how the amarr looks nd minmatar amarrs design is very curved nd minmataar have this very square design to them Remember what you fear most and then take on that fear and overcome it. Play all kill all but remember we play to kill.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1291	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:18:00 - [12] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: If any weapons are needed, they would be the Amarr heavy weapon and the Gallente heavy weapon. And the Amarr Grenade, whatever that may be. Still hoping for a Flashbang on steroids. Burns so bright it does damage! imo every race should have 2-3 grenades. that fit a myriad of roles. cal would need an anti armor grenade just like the gallente anti shield grenade. all races would need a skin for their own av grenade. then maybe one unique racial grenade. like a plasma area of effect grenade. or super flash grenade for the amarr. minmatar have all those contact grenades and different splashes and damages and such. we could add more stuff. if youve ever played turok in one of the ps2 games theres something called the dark matter cube. since gallente get into all that plasma and the erebus doomsday weapon is black like night it seems a fit. you throw the cube and it creates a miniblackhole. it creates wind and sucks streams of lights out of the air and people distort and twist out of shape as they get sucked in. then the cube just sucks itself into nothingness and dissapears. would be the coolest grenade ever. or for amarr the line gun alt fire from deadspace that creates an orb that explodes in all directions with lasers. like a giant light bomb. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1704	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:20:00 - [13] - Quote AMAR XEO wrote: 3 melee weapons: AMARR Axe Gallente Sword Minmatar Hammer 2 weapons: AMARR smg Gallente smg 2 heavy weapons: AMARR heavy weapon Gallente heavy weapon the caldari already has nova knifes,magsec smg and the minmatar smg More melee weapons are unnecessary. What do they do differently / better? Apply damage in one hit rather than two? I'd rather see the amarr have more than 2 rifles and a pistol, they need an av weapon of some kind. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1262	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:22:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: AMAR XEO wrote: 3 melee weapons: AMARR Axe Gallente Sword Minmatar Hammer 2 weapons: AMARR smg Gallente smg 2 heavy weapons: AMARR heavy weapon Gallente heavy weapon the caldari already has nova knifes,magsec smg and the minmatar smg Axe? Are you crazy......what sort of Crusading Empire uses filthy barbaric axes. This is the way of the future! Righteous Fury combined with just a pinch of Menace. or the Elegant Solution to the problem of Heathens I've always thought that if the Amarr ever get a melee weapon, that it should be some sort of lance or spear. The presice and range that spears offer seem like very Amarrian traits to me. Chargune the enemy and piercing the with lances of light and electricity seems just perfect... And if people are intent on giving the Amarr some sort of boring lightsaber, it should at least be a Yataghan. The elegant appearance and forward swept blade is VERY reminiscent of Amarrian ships. It also sort of fits Amarrian heritage. A lot of people think the Amarr are of a mostly middle eastern or eastern european heritage. This is a middle eastern weapon. The gallente should get a mace. A mace seems to fit their brutal CQC style to me. Plus, a mace where the head is just a ball of plasma would be awesome. The Minmatar should get an axe. Please, make my Opus pretty...
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 51	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:28:00 - [15] - Quote What is with the Amarr and no swords? Seriously it'd be laser technology they're not barbaric or in the ice age like minmatar. But a laser lance would be sick.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1704	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:29:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: AMAR XEO wrote: 3 melee weapons: AMARR Axe Gallente Sword Minmatar Hammer 2 weapons: AMARR smg Gallente smg 2 heavy weapons: AMARR heavy weapon Gallente heavy weapon the caldari already has nova knifes,magsec smg and the minmatar smg Axe? Are you crazy......what sort of Crusading Empire uses filthy barbaric axes. This is the way of the future! Righteous Fury combined with just a pinch of Menace. or the Elegant Solution to the problem of Heathens http://baldursgate.wikia.com/wiki/Carsomyr Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1704	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:36:00 - [17] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: What is with the Amarr and no swords? Seriously it'd be laser technology they're not barbaric or in the ice age like minmatar. But a laser lance would be sick. Y'know, the whole "HURRR AMARR = ALL LASERS ALL THE TIME" is a really idiotic misconception. Amarr prize efficiency and reliability. Lasers don't use 'ammunition' (aside from crystals which degrade slowly and are easy to carry replacements of), laser batteries can theoretically be recharged off of dropsuit power packs though it would take quite some time. Heat is a limiting factor but that just means you have to be more efficient with how you place your shots. A 'laser sword' is beyond idiotic, and when people talk about a 'laser lance' they're not talking about a 'lance' in the sense of a mounted knight, but rather something like a 'lance battery' due to the word 'lance' also sometimes being used for projectiles like javelins or atlatl arrows. It's also quite frequently used in other sci-fi and fiction to denote large gun emplacements that fire lasers such as http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lance or http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs26/f/2008/098/3/b/Lance_Turret_by_The_First_Magelord.png Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 51	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:42:00 - [18] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: What is with the Amarr and no swords? Seriously it'd be laser technology they're not barbaric or in the ice age like minmatar. But a laser lance would be sick. Y'know, the whole "HURRR AMARR = ALL LASERS ALL THE TIME" is a really idiotic misconception. Amarr prize efficiency and reliability. Lasers don't use 'ammunition' (aside from crystals which degrade slowly and are easy to carry replacements of), laser batteries can theoretically be recharged off of dropsuit power packs though it would take quite some time. Heat is a limiting factor but that just means you have to be more efficient with how you place your shots. A 'laser sword' is beyond idiotic, and when people talk about a 'laser lance' they're not talking about a 'lance' in the sense of a mounted knight, but rather something like a 'lance battery' due to the word 'lance' also sometimes being used for projectiles like javelins or atlatl arrows. It's also quite frequently used in other sci-fi and fiction to denote large gun emplacements that fire lasers such as http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lance or http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs26/f/2008/098/3/b/Lance_Turret_by_The_First_Magelord.png Lmao. So in a futuristic very advanced setting a laser sword or lance is idiotic? I'm not referring to this **** now am I? If you can't accept my thoughts why should I accept yours?
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1705	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:51:00 - [19] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: Lmao. So in a futuristic very advanced setting a laser sword or lance is idiotic? I'm not referring to this ** now am I? If you can't accept my thoughts why should I accept yours? tl,dr; "I know nothing about the various races or what values they hold in high regard, but I'm going to presume to lecture you about them". Laser melee weaponry is inefficient and unreliable, furthermore the amarr don't like to fight in close quarters instead opting for long range stand and deliver options in which they can wear down the enemy and crush their morale. The Amarr always seek to win the war in the mind before they win the war with the body. The gallente and the minmatar are the races that don't mind getting up close and punching people in the face. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 51	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:54:00 - [20] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: Lmao. So in a futuristic very advanced setting a laser sword or lance is idiotic? I'm not referring to this **** now am I? If you can't accept my thoughts why should I accept yours? tl,dr; "I know nothing about the various races or what values they hold in high regard, but I'm going to presume to lecture you about them". Laser melee weaponry is inefficient and unreliable, furthermore the amarr don't like to fight in close quarters instead opting for long range stand and deliver options in which they can wear down the enemy and crush their morale. The Amarr always seek to win the war in the mind before they win the war with the body. The gallente and the minmatar are the races that don't mind getting up close and punching people in the face. Did you bother reading the other comments? An axe? Yet you get off on swords? Also a lance is a distance melee weapon which is why I also stated that but yeah we'll go with an axe.

KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6040	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:57:00 - [21] - Quote AMAR XEO wrote: 3 melee weapons: AMARR Axe Gallente Sword Minmatar Hammer 2 weapons: AMARR smg Gallente smg 2 heavy weapons: AMARR heavy weapon Gallente heavy weapon the caldari already has nova knifes,magsec smg and the minmatar smg The weapons, specifically the Melee weapons are wrong. Amarrians are like Knights. Knights use either Swords or Maces. Give gallentes a broken bottle or something. Swords should be amarrian. Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1705	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:58:00 - [22] - Quote I didn't say anything about an axe. I was also poking True Adamance (a player I know fairly well) about his love for warhammer and religious iconography with some other media. As far as things go, the Amarr are one of the least likely races to resort to melee combat. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15343	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:06:00 - [23] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: Lmao. So in a futuristic very advanced setting a laser sword or lance is idiotic? I'm not referring to this **** now am I? If you can't accept my thoughts why should I accept yours? tl,dr; "I know nothing about the various races or what values they hold in high regard, but I'm going to presume to lecture you about them". Laser melee weaponry is inefficient and unreliable, furthermore the amarr don't like to fight in close quarters instead opting for long range stand and deliver options in which they can wear down the enemy and crush their morale. The Amarr always seek to win the war in the mind before they win the war with the body. The gallente and the minmatar are the races that don't mind getting up close and punching people in the face. In sure we could find instances of units, like the Amarr Counter Boarding Marines Company, that use their skills to fight in close range fire fights....though I doubt they wave swords around. Plus lets be honest Mina..... you'd never really be able to control a battle well enough to ensure that fighting hand to hand was not a possibility. But yeah the Amarr are all about draining the will to fight out of their opposition. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1263	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:19:00 - [24] - Quote Yeah, the Amarr prefer to fight at range. But the best fighter always have contingency plans. And if the Amarr were forced into cqc, I'm sure their preferred weapon, and the weapon that most strongly identifies with their combat mantras... is a spear/lance. Swords and maces are close range brawly weapons, and they fit the Gallente more. Also, the Caldari have a knife, so the logic that the Amarr shouldn't have a melee weapon isnt even logic at all. Please, make my Opus pretty...
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1707	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:02:00 - [25] - Quote Spears/lances are too big to be reliable though. I could see something like a gladius (which is great at stabbing into armor), or if you wanted to go full hellboy 2, you could have something like that that also extends from a leaf bladed sword into a leaf bladed spear. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15366	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:05:00 - [26] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Spears/lances are too big to be reliable though. I could see something like a gladius (which is great at stabbing into armor), or if you wanted to go full hellboy 2, you could have something like that that also extends from a leaf bladed sword into a leaf bladed spear. Didn't melee attacks at one point use combat knives? I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 56	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:08:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Spears/lances are too big to be reliable though. I could see something like a gladius (which is great at stabbing into armor), or if you wanted to go full hellboy 2, you could have something like that that also extends from a leaf bladed sword into a leaf bladed spear. Didn't melee attacks at one point use combat knives? That's cod. Very fun.


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