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iWanderer
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Posted - 2014.12.02 13:49:00 -
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Hi,
First things first, if I am wrong please correct me:
- If you get WP from hives in or out of a squad,
- If you get WP from uplinks in or out of a squad,
- If you get WP from a repper in or out of a squad,
why can you not get WP from scanners when out of a squad?
Everybody on the team sees the scanned on Tacnet, just like hives and uplinks and even a repper in the heat of battle.
The same principle should be applied, even with all the changes or future changes to scanners, ewar and Logis.
Proposal:
In or out of a squad, you get:
2 WP for equipment destroyed,
5 WP for team kill assist, 10WP for squad kill assist
20WP to 35WP for confirmed kill. Say 20 for team kill, 35 for squad kill. |
VikingKong iBUN
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.12.02 14:05:00 -
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The reason there isn't so much WP reward for using a scanner is that you are already being rewarded by the fact that you can see all the enemies.
Scan everyone and then kill them and you will find yourself getting plenty of WP. |
iWanderer
PT-BR
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Posted - 2014.12.02 14:48:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:The reason there isn't so much WP reward for using a scanner is that you are already being rewarded by the fact that you can see all the enemies.
Scan everyone and then kill them and you will find yourself getting plenty of WP.
If that is the way to go, then let-¦s keep the scans only to who has the scanner.
When it shows up on you tacnet, you go check it out. If you get the kill, don-¦t forget you saw it because someone scanned and he got nothing for his contribution for your kill, except if in you squad.
The above happens with hive or uplinks. Every one uses your uplinks and hives, and you get WP for that. The repper is a bit diferent but you can repair anyone and get WP, so, what about the scanner.... |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.02 16:01:00 -
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They didnt put that into the game cause it would appearently "too easy to farm WP". Yeah right and then you see a guy with 3000WP running around with a reptool.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
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Posted - 2014.12.02 17:13:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:They didnt put that into the game cause it would appearently "too easy to farm WP". Yeah right and then you see a guy with 3000WP running around with a reptool.
Thought that was an Uplink hard to tell with the mass of blue icons
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:21:00 -
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They aren't in the game because they didn't think to put it in the game, kind of like WP for team-spawns on MCRUs.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:25:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:The reason there isn't so much WP reward for using a scanner is that you are already being rewarded by the fact that you can see all the enemies.
Scan everyone and then kill them and you will find yourself getting plenty of WP.
This is much like saying that there is no need for a WP reward for killing a target because you've already been rewarded by having killed them.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:29:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:They didnt put that into the game cause it would appearently "too easy to farm WP". Yeah right and then you see a guy with 3000WP running around with a reptool. Thought that was an Uplink hard to tell with the mass of blue icons
Cmon, nobody gets 3000 WP from uplinks, there are far too many people dropping them.
I can see why Rattati wanted to discourage scanner spam (his stated reason for no team scan assist WP); we all have PTSD or burned-in monitors from the Nyain San permascan days.
But, I don't see how giving like +5 instead of +15 would be such a major deal.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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iWanderer
PT-BR
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Posted - 2014.12.02 22:17:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:They didnt put that into the game cause it would appearently "too easy to farm WP". Yeah right and then you see a guy with 3000WP running around with a reptool. Thought that was an Uplink hard to tell with the mass of blue icons Cmon, nobody gets 3000 WP from uplinks, there are far too many people dropping them. I can see why Rattati wanted to discourage scanner spam (his stated reason for no team scan assist WP); we all have PTSD or burned-in monitors from the Nyain San permascan days. But, I don't see how giving like +5 instead of +15 would be such a major deal.
I mean, it-¦s just something for the sake of it. Say increase the 15WP intel kill in squad to 20, and for team 5, or 10, or 15.
We can even just start small, say +5 and see how that goes. Just something.
When you see the +15 intel kill, you feel good, like you really helped somebody.
Even today when you destroy equipment you get +5 just for that...
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
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Posted - 2014.12.03 08:21:00 -
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I used the scanner today in one match for the first time and I am not going to bother to use it again simply because I was not rewarded any WPs for it.
I didn't try out the scanner for my benefit; I tried it out for the benefit of my team.
A logi can get a crap load of WPs by repairing the armor of only the people in his squad all while ignoring the remainder of his team but a person using the scanner, something that benefits the entire team at the exact same time, doesn't get anything. That is what I call bullshit.
If people are afraid of players farming WPs then all CCP or whoever has to do is put a cap on how many WPs you can earn in a match using the scanner. It is a simple solution and with it the developers of the game don't have to come off as irrational assholes who refuse to reward those who benefit the entire team but reward handsomely those whose only goal is to benefit the select few in their squad. |
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Varoth Drac
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.03 08:35:00 -
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I agree. Team Intel assist warpoints please. You help someone, you should get rewarded.
The rewards generated in game from scans are tiny compared to uplinks, rep tools, needles and hives, as things stand now. |
iWanderer
PT-BR
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Posted - 2014.12.05 19:25:00 -
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Just saw this in the 1.10 notes:
"Added a Guardian War Point bonus, for every War Point earned within 50 meters from an Objective, an additional 25% War Points are granted."
So, how about something, for non squad scanning?..... |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.05 19:28:00 -
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It's a valid point, though one must be careful with WP generation balance so things dont get out of hand. Worth looking into.
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iWanderer
PT-BR
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Posted - 2014.12.10 15:23:00 -
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Pushing for this topic in the new ECHO update
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2509133#post2509133 |
iWanderer
PT-BR
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Posted - 2014.12.15 16:08:00 -
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Bump!
Wp for scanners in and out of squad, just like hives uplinks and reppers.
You helping the team should be rewarded. |
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