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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.06 03:14:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It doesn't need to be changed. It has worked fine for more than two years. Why should we change a system that is not broken?
I'd prefer people putting up a fight and be willing to step up their gear and continue to push.
They could double payouts and it would make matches 10x as fun. People run proto a lot anyway, certainly the best players do in great numbers. Increasing the payouts allows people currently only able to afford STD suits to continue pushing to increase their level of gear to ADV or possibly proto.
Not having ISK leads to people giving up quickly and boring matches. The best players have lots of ISK. Do the ******* math!
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:54:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:STABBEY wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Direct isk payouts is something that is a question that needs to be answered carefully.
For example we don't want people permanently running prototypes. People are already permanently running proto suits LOL. It's the new players getting screwed the hardest by the lower payouts, Vets have isk stacked a mile high from PC paychecks and farming. Your excuse for said payouts is a poor 1 can we have Some1 that matters respond? (That was rude) I ment that as in som1 that works for CCP Yep. People who aren't rich are the ones hit hardest by this. There's no excuse for the current payouts and they need to be buffed.
It's no different from people that make $15/hr in the states that are so incredibly stupid they don't support raising the minimum wage. It's really no different, you have a bunch of people not doing **** because they can do nothing and make similar income.
People that PC would be pushing to keep payouts low if their stance was driven by competition. Veteran PC players can keep their thumb on the masses as long as the payouts stay low.
If someone needs this explained to them I have Microsoft Paint, I'll try to make it look like it was made with crayons as much as possible.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:56:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:ISK payouts are a joke.
They are entirely dependent upon how expensive the gear is that your enemy is fielding. It has nothing to do with your effort. There is no significant reward for really trying.
All of the decent payouts in pubs come when the enemy loses rafts of proto suits, modules or they lose many tanks.
Your individual effort and contribution to victory mean jack all.
There is no significant difference in the top slot on the winning team versus the losing team unless someone got proto happy.
The rewards system is the most poorly thought out, and unrewarding system I have ever seen in any game.
The fact that your paycheck in match is dependent upon your enemy being less risk averse is absolutely daft.
Has this even been confirmed to still be the case? The payouts don't seem to be tied to ISK destroyed to me.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.15 01:00:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:xavier zor wrote:No one likes being put up against a proto-squad
CCP should keep the ISK system where it is, but change salvage system. To run proto every match would require somebody to have a KD of >13 if they are playing against militia-standard enemies and a KD of >9 if playing against prototype-advanced enemies Raise ISK increase price on proto. Donih wait no the stompers already have infinite proto. This keeps new players from wanting to play because even the illusion of parity is impossible in the current system
I think raising the price of proto (not in LP store) is a good idea IF they buff the payouts similar to the 50-100% mentioned above.
Only4-5KDRpubbiesCanRunADV24/7|PCplyrsRunPRO&smashSTD/MLTplyrs24/7. ThisIsHowIt'sAlwaysBeen,ThereforeMustStayThisWay.
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